Breaking Even mission is bugged

[Fokkas]

I've been locked at Breaking Even for 2 hours now. I've watched multiple videos and went through old forums for the mission and I've reoutfitted my squad and gave them better scopes and rifles (although the highest scope that is ever available is x4 - default for them is x2 scopes.

It doesn't matter how this is done, after the first shot at the beginning after we've awaited orders, the task is automatically failed. This happens with any squad person including me, regardless if we have suppressors. The first shot fails the objective. I've made it so I've had 1 squadie for each target (2 targets to squads with the highest level scopes) and it doesn't matter because after the very first shot from either of them suppressed or not - the objective fails and the CO says "told you to keep keep quiet".

I deem this mission bugged and I've reloaded several times, and even reverted back to scratch. Still fails on the very first shot.

[Baraz]

Sangman a écrit :

This mission is broken. First shots by my AI squadmates do not instakill the sentries (what posts here suggest) and the task fails.

If you give the first orders in the right sequence, after the commander cues them, and it still fails, yes it is a bug. Someone else here claimed it may have become bugged after the last patch.

Video of how it was done normally (I don't like that scripted part) :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vo9BgLedmfs

If it still fails, I suggest you post a bug report here :
https://feedback.bistudio.com/project/view/1/

[Honour Valour Pride]

Baraz a écrit :

Sangman a écrit :

This mission is broken. First shots by my AI squadmates do not instakill the sentries (what posts here suggest) and the task fails.

If you give the first orders in the right sequence, after the commander cues them, and it still fails, yes it is a bug. Someone else here claimed it may have become bugged after the last patch.

Video of how it was done normally (I don't like that scripted part) :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vo9BgLedmfs

If it still fails, I suggest you post a bug report here :
https://feedback.bistudio.com/project/view/1/

Date of the video: February 25th, 2015.

Are you aware how many updates did arma 3 have since that date? They changed half of things; they broke a number of scripts, this being one. So once again, stop posting spam advices.

[Turbomancer]

I just managed to do this after 2 hours of BS, and it was the most simple, but unintuitive way.

I did everything all guides suggested, nothing worked.

Here is what worked for me:
Don't do anything at all.
Wait for all the dialogue to complete.
Once Kerry says "on my order".
Select the entire squad and select "Open Fire".

That's it.

Do NOT target the soldiers previously. Do NOT fire your gun.

Just "open fire" at the right time.

[Baraz]

You should really report this on their bug tracker. I looked for "breaking even", and the only posts I see are a few from 2014. Report this as a bug if the original tips and the new tips both fail.

( and send a support ticket )

[SteelShot]

Friendbesto a écrit :

I just managed to do this after 2 hours of BS, and it was the most simple, but unintuitive way.

I did everything all guides suggested, nothing worked.

Here is what worked for me:
Don't do anything at all.
Wait for all the dialogue to complete.
Once Kerry says "on my order".
Select the entire squad and select "Open Fire".

That's it.

Do NOT target the soldiers previously. Do NOT fire your gun.

Just "open fire" at the right time.

This has worked for me, just rolled up behind a tree, and as soon as the order task to neutralize soldiers came in order to open fire. Took the AI maybe 4-6 shots and voila!

Worked on latest patch 1.84.144923

[srmacpherson]

August 2019.
Still can’t complete this task.
Sometimes my guys will
Open fire, shoot a few times and I get a missed window. Other times it’s a failure to remain undetected. First round or several. It never seemed to matter.

[Boshtet]

So I've just done restarted this mission about 40 times and failed the neutralize soldiers bit over and over again until I finally realized why. I had the game difficulty set to recruit which decreases all AI skill and precision. However, once I changed the difficulty back to regular I completed it first shot. I believe this may be the solution for others too

[Buddy]

badhemia fix this

[SpellingSword]

The only thing that worked for me was to shoot the 2 guards myself. One bullet each, several seconds between them. I used mk18 with MRCO, no silencer either. It seems the problem is that the AI squadmates start firing many shots, which causes your position to be revealed. If you kill them with 2, you should be fine.

[Dingus Stinkfinger]

Confirmed August 2020:

After trying forever to do this quest like the dialogue tells you in every way I've found it suggested here and in other forums, I can confirm that it is possible to achieve by simply killing the two guards as quickly as possible, as others have said. We're talking like 2-3 seconds between kills. Presumably you can achieve this end many different ways, either by yourself or with your team. However, unless your AI will quickly eliminate them with few rounds, or the AI is dumbed down with respect to detecting incoming fire (i.e. mods and higher/lower difficulties perhaps?), the guards will detect you and you'll fail the objective. Assigning targets is not necessary and was apparently removed as a quest objective, along with the scripting allowing your squad to one shot them. If you watch the tasks on your map page, the only thing you get is a task to remain undetected and neutralize the guards.

Regular difficulty: I waited for the dialogue to end and the task to update. I immediately killed the guard on top the building, then quickly killed the one in the tower. He was panning his view towards me as I lined up the shot. It took me maybe 3 tries to get it. The previous attempts he panned to me and immediately spotted me, failing the objective. Attempts prior to that, I engaged the tower guard first and the roof guard seemed to find me faster. That could have just been me getting warmed up though, I guess.

I used a silenced MXM with a LRPS and crouched behind the tree right in front of where you start for a weapon rest. I would find optics and recoil to be more relevant to the shots than weapon power, as it's ~ 300 meters for both shots. The faster you can line up the second target, the better your chance. Remember to adjust your optics at the start for 300m shot if you are using the LRPS and a few others that default higher than 300m
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I did use mods this go around, but I don't think they would affect this outcome. I'm using CBA_A3, Window Breaker, and dzn Rifle Tripods (this gives you the awesome ability to horizontally level the existing rifle bipods!)

Hope this helps any of you fellow completionists! Good luck!

[-=SpecTRe=- (Mr Anderson)]

Kivaczek a écrit :

I solved it. All you have to do is order EVERYONE to shoot one guy, while you take care of the other guy. You have about 0.5 - 2.0 seconds before the ai decides that it's alert. Simply shoot one yourself and pray your AI's hit the other.

This one worked for me. Thanks alot!!!!!

[EonLimited]

Let me just say how stupid it is that I had to pay over $100 for this game and it's DLC just for it not to work, and not only that for them to never have even fixed it after the game has been out for so long and clearly supported enough to receive DLC, they still didn't fix it. Complete L on the development team on this one. Completely disappointed in how many missions are like this.

[Urk_da_WAAAGH!]

EonLimited a écrit :

Let me just say how stupid it is that I had to pay over $100 for this game and it's DLC just for it not to work, and not only that for them to never have even fixed it after the game has been out for so long and clearly supported enough to receive DLC, they still didn't fix it. Complete L on the development team on this one. Completely disappointed in how many missions are like this.

The missions isn't broken, that "bug" doesn't affect the results in any way as long as you do eliminate the guards.

Also, no reason to necro a several years old thread for a senseless rant

[Katie]

This thread was quite old before the recent post, so we're locking it to prevent confusion.