Breaking Even mission is bugged

[Fokkas]

I've been locked at Breaking Even for 2 hours now. I've watched multiple videos and went through old forums for the mission and I've reoutfitted my squad and gave them better scopes and rifles (although the highest scope that is ever available is x4 - default for them is x2 scopes.

It doesn't matter how this is done, after the first shot at the beginning after we've awaited orders, the task is automatically failed. This happens with any squad person including me, regardless if we have suppressors. The first shot fails the objective. I've made it so I've had 1 squadie for each target (2 targets to squads with the highest level scopes) and it doesn't matter because after the very first shot from either of them suppressed or not - the objective fails and the CO says "told you to keep keep quiet".

I deem this mission bugged and I've reloaded several times, and even reverted back to scratch. Still fails on the very first shot.

[N Quarter]

Originally posted by Baraz - Siriel:

Ah, sorry, I didn't realize the video was your gameplay (I presumed it was some tips video).

All good man =]

Originally posted by Baraz - Siriel:

Ideas :
a) try setting them to Stealth mode before shooting ;
b) instead of "Open Fire" aka Fire at will (option 1), try using the ordinary "Fire" command (option 3: which means fire only at given target).

Yeah Stealth is one of the options I tried early, but tried your other suggestion with no result again =\

Originally posted by Baraz - Siriel:

AT WORST : it is bugged, but you do not fail the mission as such. The commander is just peaved that it was not the surprise attack he wanted (which is bull).

Yeah I'm guessing it's just a flawed mission really. I know you don't actually have to have the objective to work to continue the mission, but it's just annoying that it's not working correctly, and obviously this has been a problem for some time, with no fix at all from the Developers.

Nothing better than successfully taking out Sentries undetected, but oh well, I'll just go in Guns blazing.

Being new to Arma, the game is good, pretty amazing at times really, but oh my god do the AI really tick me off... At times it feels like they cheat by knowing precisely where I am, and 1 shot kill me.

I just want to get the Scenario's completed, get some experience up, then move onto Multiplayer where I'm sure the Game rises above it all in terms of enjoyment.

[Baraz]

Originally posted by N Quarter:

Yeah I'm guessing it's just a flawed mission really. I know you don't actually have to have the objective to work to continue the mission, but it's just annoying that it's not working correctly, and obviously this has been a problem for some time, with no fix at all from the Developers.

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Being new to Arma, the game is good, pretty amazing at times really, but oh my god do the AI really tick me off... At times it feels like they cheat by knowing precisely where I am, and 1 shot kill me.

I just want to get the Scenario's completed, get some experience up, then move onto Multiplayer where I'm sure the Game rises above it all in terms of enjoyment.

Yes, same. I am a completionist and doing the entire single player stuff is like a necessary training camp in my view before going into multiplayer. So I know how frustrating it is to see that step "failed".

Good news is the other mission, Bingo Fuel, does not have any of that bull scripted steps and you have all the time you need to be tactical, try to destroy everything, etc.

[Zigazaga]

Stop saying "necro" all the time. Same here, tried all the tips. As soon as they fire and kill the guards, the man says we were supposed to remain undetected, which doesn't make any sense.

[Baraz]

Originally posted by Zigazaga:

Stop saying "necro" all the time. Same here, tried all the tips. As soon as they fire and kill the guards, the man says we were supposed to remain undetected, which doesn't make any sense.

Have you found this guide :
https://forums.bistudio.com/forums/topic/210659-breaking-even-the-east-wind-important-tips-walkthrough/

It begins with :
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What you must know : this first step has nothing at all to do with gear, weapons, accuracy or anything combat related. They are simple tasks to do following the scripted dialogue.

a) The rebel leader will ask your squad to target the two guards... Select a part of your squad and target a first guard; select the rest and target the second guard. Do NOT fire yet.
Voilà, the game will print a mission notice about succeeding that initial step.

b) The rebel leader will then ask you to wait for his command to open fire and eliminate both guards quickly (to start a surprise attack).
Once he gives his go-ahead, select your entire team and make them fire.

Both guards will suddenly drop (it is scripted).

Important : you (the player) must not fire until that first phase is done ! Only your squad mates are ordered to fire.
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[Honour Valour Pride]

Originally posted by Baraz:

Originally posted by Zigazaga:

Stop saying "necro" all the time. Same here, tried all the tips. As soon as they fire and kill the guards, the man says we were supposed to remain undetected, which doesn't make any sense.

Have you found this guide :
https://forums.bistudio.com/forums/topic/210659-breaking-even-the-east-wind-important-tips-walkthrough/

It begins with :
__
What you must know : this first step has nothing at all to do with gear, weapons, accuracy or anything combat related. They are simple tasks to do following the scripted dialogue.

a) The rebel leader will ask your squad to target the two guards... Select a part of your squad and target a first guard; select the rest and target the second guard. Do NOT fire yet.
Voilà, the game will print a mission notice about succeeding that initial step.

b) The rebel leader will then ask you to wait for his command to open fire and eliminate both guards quickly (to start a surprise attack).
Once he gives his go-ahead, select your entire team and make them fire.

Both guards will suddenly drop (it is scripted).

Important : you (the player) must not fire until that first phase is done ! Only your squad mates are ordered to fire.
__

Why are you repeating these worthless advises?

[Honour Valour Pride]

The problem with this mission and with this game in general, is that bohemia interactive tends to break, with each update, a number of scripts, namely ai scripts. So, the problem here is that you are not able to issue commands to your ai team because the command scripts are broken.

bohemia interactive is worse than bugthesda.

[Baraz]

Originally posted by ArseholeMe:

Why are you repeating these worthless advises?

a) it works, I tested it, I wrote it ;
b) your statement after is ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ (squad commands do work).

[Honour Valour Pride]

Originally posted by Baraz:

Originally posted by ArseholeMe:

Why are you repeating these worthless advises?

a) it works, I tested it, I wrote it ;
b) your statement after is ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ (squad commands do work).

You're a lying toad. The ai misses 95% of the time.

[Baraz]

Removed my insult in reaction to an insult.

[dime]

I've been having trouble with the start of this mission for a few hours, I tried a few things, including Barazs' tips, which didn't work. I tried targeting through the map to no avail...

What did work was instead of targeting the senturies by sight, I did it totally through the Number context menus. Once you have enemies spotted, they will appear on the 2-key context menu. So, select preferred soldier, dab 2, select preferred target, repeat steps for next target.

Hope this helps.. I understand the want to complete it.

[Honour Valour Pride]

Originally posted by dime:

I've been having trouble with the start of this mission for a few hours, I tried a few things, including Barazs' tips, which didn't work. I tried targeting through the map to no avail...

What did work was instead of targeting the senturies by sight, I did it totally through the Number context menus. Once you have enemies spotted, they will appear on the 2-key context menu. So, select preferred soldier, dab 2, select preferred target, repeat steps for next target.

Hope this helps.. I understand the want to complete it.

It gets even worse: 1.78 update broke Gori Scouting Mission; now as soon as the level loads up, there's a big chance the game will freeze and crash.

[Baraz]

Originally posted by dime:

I've been having trouble with the start of this mission for a few hours, I tried a few things, including Barazs' tips, which didn't work. I tried targeting through the map to no avail...

What did work was instead of targeting the senturies by sight, I did it totally through the Number context menus. Once you have enemies spotted, they will appear on the 2-key context menu. So, select preferred soldier, dab 2, select preferred target, repeat steps for next target.

Hope this helps.. I understand the want to complete it.

Would be important to post a ticket(s) on the official bug tracker :
( not to be confused with the forum )
https://feedback.bistudio.com

BI employees read it and respond.

[Kivaczek]

I solved it. All you have to do is order EVERYONE to shoot one guy, while you take care of the other guy. You have about 0.5 - 2.0 seconds before the ai decides that it's alert. Simply shoot one yourself and pray your AI's hit the other.

[Pilot_51]

I'm going through the campaign and just ran into the same issue.

Assigning targets seems flakey, it appears because you're forced to assign specific squad members to specific targets. Even then, once everyone is assigned, I either wait and fail the task because he "can't wait any longer" or I order them to fire (or fire myself) and fail the task because we didn't stay undetected. I don't think any of my squad members have managed to kill the targets before the task failed, though I've managed to kill both targets myself in about a second and still failed the task. The task fails almost instantly after the first kill. If they need to be simultaneous, that's nearly impossible because my squad apparently sucks at hitting their target (or the script that makes them both go down is broken).

[Sangman]

This mission is broken. First shots by my AI squadmates do not instakill the sentries (what posts here suggest) and the task fails.