Why so much fog???

[Doggy]

Last time many missions have so much unrealistic fof. It look like a cheap console game 15 years ago.
I know,the performance of arma3 is very bad (arma2 runs much more better,but some fanboys will not believe that).
But to play missions with so much fog is only idiotic. Hope the server-settings will be changed in future.

[Azrad Al'Azif]

Omg... wieder mal Doggy. Diesmal gehts also um Nebel.
1. Soviel Nebel hab ich nicht gesehen. Was hast du bitte gespielt?
2. Wird Nebel mit den Wettereinstellungen der Mission festgelegt.
3. Die Sichtweite (Nebel?) auf Servern kann jetzt schon frei eingestellt werden.

Der Nebel, über den du dich beschwerst, liegt also am Missionsbauer und/oder am Serverbesitzer. Die sollen das bitte korrigieren. Wende dich vertrauensvoll an die Admins deines Lieblingsservers.

Falls du keine zufriedenstellende Lösung findest, miete die einfach einen eigenen Server. Da kriegst du was brauchbares schon für unter 10€ pro Monat. Hab ich auch so gemacht. Jammern alleine hilft nicht.

[IsaacTheBomb]

Originally posted by Azrad Al'Azif:

Omg... wieder mal Doggy. Diesmal gehts also um Nebel.
1. Soviel Nebel hab ich nicht gesehen. Was hast du bitte gespielt?
2. Wird Nebel mit den Wettereinstellungen der Mission festgelegt.
3. Die Sichtweite (Nebel?) auf Servern kann jetzt schon frei eingestellt werden.

Der Nebel, über den du dich beschwerst, liegt also am Missionsbauer und/oder am Serverbesitzer. Die sollen das bitte korrigieren. Wende dich vertrauensvoll an die Admins deines Lieblingsservers.

Falls du keine zufriedenstellende Lösung findest, miete die einfach einen eigenen Server. Da kriegst du was brauchbares schon für unter 10€ pro Monat. Hab ich auch so gemacht. Jammern alleine hilft nicht.

Thanks you have a very good point. Just whinning does not help anything. I at the time do not have fog on my Fracture Complete Chaos server IP:142.4.215.124:2312 Come check it out.

[Azrad Al'Azif]

Weil wir grad beim Werbung machen sind:
Mein Server: 46.251.243.213:2302
Ihr benötigt noch Warlords:
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=462357997
Kein Nebel, gute Performance.^^

[Mechanite]

Actually for me ArmA 3 runs much better.. so yeah. Call my a fanboy if you want, but the first time I launched it (at the time comparing to A2 vanilla) A3 ran much smoother.

[Doggy]

Meine Güte ich habe es doch geschrieben das der Nebel an den Serversettings liegt.meine Frage war auch an den Serverbetreibern gerichtet.Also bitte erst mal richtig lesen bevor man wieder vorschnell antwortet.(Mein Zitat: "Hope the server-settings will be changed in future."

An den Missionen liegt es nicht,sind halt die Servereinstellungen vom Host.Nur ist manchmal da so eine Nebelsuppe eingestellt was total realitätsfremd ist und auch absolut keinen Spass macht.
Ist manchmal bei Warfare (Seattle-Server) aber auch bei EUTW und vor allem bei Endgame zu beobachten,

[IsaacTheBomb]

Doggy I could not understand that trasnlation

[Doggy]

@Sniper
It´s not true,very great Modder (mod for many many years and he know what he do very well) make some performance test.
Yes sometimes runs arma3 better (for example in woods) but when you have many ai it runs horrible.
Arma2 can handle much more ai then arma3,that is 1 reason why you not found many warfares in arma3 because warfare not runs very well.
And Bohemia knows very well why not integreate a benchmark-test or warfare mission in arma3.

But i hope you are not such an stupid altis life or epoch kiddie,for such idiotic kiddie-missions arma3 runs good enough,that´s true.

But i will not explain it again and agin to all the stupid fanboys,fact is you can play big warfares very well in arma2,but N O T in arma 3 .

And some modders mod since ofp and such guys know the engine much more better then such blind fanboys.

About such bad performance in arma3 it is 1 reason why you not found many good missions.
And the next reason is many stop modding because the very bad community.Count the milsim srver and then the stupid mainstreammissions for the brainless Kiddies.

And what so many young kiddies not understand: Altis Life is only a ♥♥♥♥ Life-sim where not happens very much.So all mean arma3 runs well.

But for the example warfare/cti there must handle the engine many ai,firefights ,many units (air,land ). So in such missions happens much more then in altis life. And in altis life you have not so many action in towns ect.
Altis life is only a walking simulator with no action......such idiotic mission need not so much performance then real milsim-missions with many units and firefights.

But typical same blabla from the kiddies.Dont know the engine,play only stupid life simulator and mean they are much more clever then modder they mod for many many years.

[Speedbump]

Originally posted by Doggy:

Last time many missions have so much unrealistic fof. It look like a cheap console game 15 years ago.
I know,the performance of arma3 is very bad (arma2 runs much more better,but some fanboys will not believe that).
But to play missions with so much fog is only idiotic. Hope the server-settings will be changed in future.

To start with, ArmA 2 simply doesn't run better then ArmA 3. I can hit over 100 FPS on some multiplayer servers, whereas well hosted ArmA 2 servers have never gone above 50. Not to mention ArmA 2 was never fully optimized. If you have problems running ArmA 3 either buy a new pc, get a better cpu, optimise your computer to run ArmA 3 better or try and find a better hosted server.
As for your fog issue, if you mean on multiplayer then that's because the host either hasn't changed it from the default setting or decided to have it where it is. You CAN change it, it's just that this articular host has not.

[Doggy]

Will not explain here again.Arma2 warfare runs much more better. When you have many ai (very bad with some vehicles) in or near towns in arma3,performance is bad.I play since ofp and i know all the games very well.
Played warfares in arma2 a very long time and very often and can tell you in arma2 runs all warfares much more better.
All the new arma3 stuff is to much for the old engine,in arma2 the engine runs on max.
And i repeat: Great modder (not only 1 modder) made some performance test with arma2 and arma3.The result was arma2 can handle much more ai then arma 3.

And such modder are not silly,they know the engine very well.And why do you not found many warfare in arma3 ?
For me it is to hard all to explain in english but i am very often in the foren where you find some modders.They explain very well why arma3 runs so bad and arma2 runs better (not good but much more better then ama 3).
It´s true when you have no or very less ai,arma3 runs faster (for example in woods with many trees).
But when you have many ai in towns arma 3 runs very bad. But ok,some blind fanboys will not believe that. They not believe facts and many performance tests with arma2 and arma3.,made from very good modders.
it have a reson why you not found many warfares in arma3.

But ok,i end it here now. The fanboys are too silly sorry. When modders make performance test with many ai on a map (same count of ai and map in arma 2 and arma3) they show you very well the big different.
And it have a reason too why so many modders stop working. i read a lot why they stop working and the most have the same reason...bad performance(but bad patches too they made some hard work from the modders useless).

When you understand german,go on the website "armed-assault.de" there you can read a lot.(theme "Patches).

Warfare in arma 3 runs only horrible,tht is fact and i play since ca. 15 years the serie and can see very well the different "warfares arma2" and "warfares arma3"

[IsaacTheBomb]

Doggy how about to show us specs than just whinning about it?

[Doggy]

@Azrad Al'Azif
Das ist schon mal ein guter Ansatz mit der Werbung.Endlich mal kein Altis Life Schrott.Hoffe aber die Mission/Map ist weitläufig bzw. hat Anspruch und ist nicht nur so ein KOTH-Abklatsch.
Wo ich schon soviel über Altis Life gemeckert habe,der König aller Bekloppten ist aber KOTH.

Noch anspruchloser ist nicht mehr möglich.Da schiessen sich über 100 !!!!! Spieler gegenseitig in 1 !!!!! Stadt ab,dagegen ist Call of Duty ja ein Hardcore Tactical Shooter.
Kann echt nicht wahr sein was aus einer Milsim-Serie geworden ist,nur noch anspruchsloser Mainstreamdreck.
Viele wissen auch nicht,wofür Arma/OFP mal stand.Die meisten Idioten haben sich Arma3 nur wegen diesen anspruchlosen Mainstreammissionen gekauft,die wenigsten kauften Arma3 weil sie eine Milsim haben wollten bzw. auf anspruchsvolles Gameplay stehen.

Aber vielleicht gibt es noch ein wenig Hoffnung.Auch ist vor kurzem Project Reality für Arma3 released worden,leider haben sich die Typen dort zu wichtig genommen.Kann aber auch nur ein schlechter Tag gewesen sein.

Kennt ihr auch noch Berzerk von Arma 1 (die arma2 Version war nicht so gut und der Modder stellte auch seine Arbeit leider ein).
Das wissen auch die wenigsten.Berzerk war die erste Mission in Arma,wo man Zonen erobern musste.Berzerk war praktisch der Urvater von den ganzen Zoneneroberungen,die man heute sieht.Habe ich sehr viel gezockt und auch den Macher kennen gelernt.

Oder AAS-Missionen,habe in arma3 auch erst1-2 gesehen. Aber all dies braucht Arma3,damit auch mal endlich was anderes zu finden ist als die ganze Life ,Epoch,KOTH-Grütze.

Was könnte man alles schöne aus Arma 3 zaubern ,aber wenn Bohemia schon auf deren Website Werbung macht für Dayz oder sagt,man gehe auf die Bedürfnisse der Altis Life Spieler(idioten) ein,ist das nur ein riesen grosses Armutszeugnis.
Bohemia hat sich um 180 Grad gewendet und deren neue Zielgruppe sind nun Mainstreamkiddies.
Auch die neue Insel Tanoa,dort sieht man nicht mal irgend etwas militärisches,da wird nur Holidayfeeling versprüht.
Eine Milsim sollte man auch als Milsim erkennen,aber wenn man sich Tanoa so anschaut würde niemand darauf kommen,das Arma eine Milsim sein soll.

Vielleicht kommen ja noch ein paar echte Milsimfans zurück.Ich selber habe aber schon von so vielen gehört,das sie auf diesen ganzen Mainstreammüll in Arma3 keinen Bock mehr habe.
Einer schrieb mal so treffen:Bald ist auch noch der letzte Milsimfan verschwunden.

[Nutlink]

Originally posted by Doggy:

Warfare in arma 3 runs only horrible,tht is fact and i play since ca. 15 years the serie and can see very well the different "warfares arma2" and "warfares arma3"

To each their own, but I consider Warfare (and Invade and Annex, Domination, Evolution, and even Insurgency) "kiddy" missions as well. It's not necessarily a bad thing (and many of them are a lot of fun under the right circumstances), but my personal bread and butter for the series has always been the no respawn 10 minute to an hour long mission I can play with between 5 and 15 friends. That's the beauty of the game - it has a lot for everyone. There's no need to be self-righteous towards anyone for it, even those of us who have been around the series for more than a decade.

You're absolutely right though - Arma 3 doesn't handle large scale missions nearly as well as Arma 2. However, smaller scale missions that don't rely on hundreds of AI, scripts, or high player counts run just as well, if not better than, they're Arma 2 counter-parts. It all depends on what you want out of the game.

[Doggy]

Dont talk about performance with brainless blind fanboys they are too silly to believe the true.
Big warfares runs better with my older computer then arma3-warfare with newer computer.

And are you a modder? Are you modding since many many years? Have you build many missions? Have you made many performance-tests? Have you made performance tests with arma 2 and arma3 with the same settings (same isle,same count of ai ect).? I think not but i kow modder they do it.And such guys you can believe what they say and test. Or look at the bug-tracking from bohemia,there you find countless posts about ♥♥♥♥ performance.

But yes,all are idiots,only the blind fanboys not.

[IsaacTheBomb]

Firstly, I am a dev for Fractured game, and a indie game dev. If you know what you are doing with arma 3 as I do, you don't see that big of a hit to FPS or CPS if you do it right. I've made missions from milsim, to wasteland, epoch, exile, ace, arma 3 life, altis life, made my own custom missions, I even have a complete re-write of wasteland that I have made. I know for a fact its about how you deploy what you are doing that will make the game good or bad.

[Nutlink]

I'm a mission creator, and have been since OFP. I have built hundreds of missions and yes, I have done performance tests (even with the same mission in Arma 2 and Arma 3 thanks to AiA). Arma 3 was much more stable with fewer framerate drops than Arma 2 was. Now, this was done a few years ago (during the alpha and beta, I don't think I did it with the final release), so things may have changed with the patches, but using the exact same hardware the results were undeniable - Arma 3 had a noticeable improvement over Arma 2 in both average and minimum framerate for the kind of missions I create and play with my team.

As for the bug tracking I'm semi-active on tracker. I'm guessing there's a language barrier between us, because you don't seem to understand that I'm agreeing with you for the most part. It's just that Arma 3 is actually better when there's fewer assets in play while it can't hold up with Arma 2 when it comes to larger unit counts and more scripts.