T90 Main Battle Tank

[WolfPac Leader]

As I was looking through the MODs I noticed there is no T90 tank and was wondering why? We have 55s 72s and 80s oh and lets not forget the black eagle which is an awesome tank. So the challenge to you modding GODs is simple"whip up a T90" And to cut off what is coming in the comments, if I could I would do it myself. Thanks gents.

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Originally posted by WolfPac Leader:

As I was looking through the MODs I noticed there is no T90 tank and was wondering why? We have 55s 72s and 80s oh and lets not forget the black eagle which is an awesome tank. So the challenge to you modding GODs is simple"whip up a T90" And to cut off what is coming in the comments, if I could I would do it myself. Thanks gents.

Just use the ArmA 2 vehicles.

[McDanger]

Plenty of mods have T90, what are you talking about.... RHS:RF for one....Also the T90 is a recycled T-72, its awful.

[WolfPac Leader]

I run RHS and I will look again, be back

[WolfPac Leader]

Well i have to say i checked and nope no t90. however i did find a t34 cool.

[Robo_Warrior]

You must have looked into RDS..
The mod you need is: RHS: Russian Armed Forces
And you will have yout T-90

Originally posted by McDanger:

Plenty of mods have T90, what are you talking about.... RHS:RF for one....Also the T90 is a recycled T-72, its awful.

I'm unaware of other mods.. But implying that T-90 is awful is very much open to debate to say the least. You can always add Kontakt-5 or even Relikt , a Shtora and some Arena countermeasures and you can make it a tough nut to crack. But what most people comparing tanks are missing is the fact that the Russians like to abuse their superior numbers in mass tactics rather than favouring fewer more advanced units. Not to mention the economics of making a tank that is cheap , performs adequately and needs minimal training to operate.

[McDanger]

In any real war, the tanks would all be destroyed by planes and launchers ten miles away anyways, but the T90 under performs in every category compared to challenger or abrams and is extremely dangerous to the crew inside. Russians don't actually have superior numbers compared to US or China, but they just value their soldiers lives very little and sacrifice them in wave after wave. But that is neither here nor there. It will lose 1v1 to any NATO MBT. I do enjoy using them in Arma 3 for the Reflekts rocket though, pretty fun to hit helicopters with.

The T72, T80, and T90 are all in RHS mod.

[Robo_Warrior]

Originally posted by McDanger:

In any real war, the tanks would all be destroyed by planes and launchers ten miles away anyways, but the T90 under performs in every category compared to challenger or abrams and is extremely dangerous to the crew inside. Russians don't actually have superior numbers compared to US or China, but they just value their soldiers lives very little and sacrifice them in wave after wave. But that is neither here nor there. It will lose 1v1 to any NATO MBT. I do enjoy using them in Arma 3 for the Reflekts rocket though, pretty fun to hit helicopters with.

The T72, T80, and T90 are all in RHS mod.

Trust me i'm very much aware of all this. 3 Years under FDF with infantry Anti-Tank specialist training. I couldn't agree more on the rest.. But..
Sure Russia doesn't have superior numbers overall when compared to the U.S and China, but it does on everyone else. Not to mention we are specifically talking tanks here in which Russia outnumbers everyone for now. Also considering unit composition Russia likes to use numerical advantages when applying battle tactics against enemy forces.
They could also pump out massive amounts of war material that only the U.S or China could compete with, everyone else caught between are ♥♥♥♥♥♥.
(Trust me, i know this too.. Considering Finlands geographical position and our military situation.)

Quantity in mass over quality in small numbers has always been the Russian / Soviet preferred way of warfare.

[WolfPac Leader]

Gents I was saying it would be nice to have one in the game, and now you bring up another one the challenger we need this one as well. But you guys took it to a new level, comparing real ones. Ok that being said we need a challenger as well

[Robo_Warrior]

Originally posted by WolfPac Leader:

Gents I was saying it would be nice to have one in the game, and now you bring up another one the challenger we need this one as well. But you guys took it to a new level, comparing real ones. Ok that being said we need a challenger as well

http://www.armaholic.com/page.php?id=27205

There we have a lovely Challenger 2 TES for you sir. Notice it needs AGM and CBA_A3 mods for it to work though.
And i love taking things into the next level. Its just some innocent fun.

[McDanger]

I feel like with Russias current economy, and the quality of their steel/fuel etc, their military output would not be as impressive as they say it is.

The Challenger tank in Arma 3 is great, I wish it was included in one of the more popular mods so it would be more accessible to the public... like RHS, or CUP, or MAS. That way we could include it on our exile server. We have all the Arma3, and RHS tanks on our exile server and its pretty fun.

[Robo_Warrior]

Originally posted by McDanger:

I feel like with Russias current economy, and the quality of their steel/fuel etc, their military output would not be as impressive as they say it is.

Not relying on what they claim, but instead real life military intelligence. Granted it is a few years old but still..
Russians historically do not need a great economical situation in order to mobilize their military industrial complex. This has been seen trough the Soviet era and you'd be amazed how far simple willpower and abundant natural resources go.

In reality Russia really isn't on its best when it comes down to military capability. Even in a small scale war like Georgia 2008 they had enormous logistical issues when it came down to maintenance , equipment condition and supply transportation. Most of the divisions involved were unable to keep up with their tasks and the airforce along with special forces had to do most of the heavy lifting in the entire conflict.

Very unrealistic to see Russia in a WW3 scale war in its current situation. But small scale conflicts and hybrid warfare will surely be seen more often as of recent years.
If it comes down to Finland versus Russia rematch. I'm confident we would get our first ever real life combat data on western MBT versus an eastern one. Leopard 2a6 and the T-90MS perhaps.
I certainly hope not..

[McDanger]

The more modern combat gets, the less effective russia will be. Forcing your conscripts to run at the enemy with a rifle in hand won't get the trick done anymore. Not when the enemy is raining death from a drone 30000 feet up.

The Armata demonstration sort of proves what shape Russian hardware is in.... I believe it conked out in the middle of parade and had to be towed by a tank 60 years old?

[Robo_Warrior]

Originally posted by McDanger:

The more modern combat gets, the less effective russia will be. Forcing your conscripts to run at the enemy with a rifle in hand won't get the trick done anymore. Not when the enemy is raining death from a drone 30000 feet up.

The Armata demonstration sort of proves what shape Russian hardware is in.... I believe it conked out in the middle of parade and had to be towed by a tank 60 years old?

Haha the armata did in fact break down in the middle of a parade preperation test drive. Not the parade itself which would have made it extremely embarassing for the Russian government and ever more so prove their situation.

And your are indeed right, the more modern the combat gets the less likely Russia would come out on top.
Except in Finland they would have the airsuperiority with us having to run around with AA systems down on the ground while both sides throw endless amounts of conscripts at each other with the exception that we actually have equipment that wouldn't break down after a day of use while the temperatures can reach all the way down to minus fifty celsius.
Its a one of a kind situation which really couldn't be found anywhere else on the planet.

[McDanger]

I would not envy those ground troops.

[Robo_Warrior]

Originally posted by McDanger:

I would not envy those ground troops.

Trust me on this, you shouldn't. Its not as much fun as the movies make it to be to freeze off your balls in arctic level temperatures while staying up for an entire night on guard duty while being paranoid as ♥♥♥♥ in the end war exercise.