Arma 3
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Ycraes Jan 2, 2016 @ 12:25am
Are child soldier mods possible?
I've never gotten around to modding arma, and as I know there was all kinds of time stuffed into the one, very limted female soldiers mod for arma 3, I have to ask, is it possible to scale down hit boxs and soldier size at all? i suppose it probably wouldnt be because of the need for 2 kinds of base bodies and the main body being a one size fits all kind of thing, but is it possible to make it visially work even if the hit boxs were all the same. Anyone who has tinkered with the files enough to answer this question would be appreciated, trying to reinact movies is kinda hard without women, children, ....civilians that arn't two dimentional. just wanted to know if i started modding if itd be even remotely possible.
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D'Harhan Jan 2, 2016 @ 12:26am 
Possible yes. But not in good taste.
Ycraes Jan 2, 2016 @ 3:28pm 
war has no sense of good taste, its cold, its bloody, its horrible, and if a game is going to represent it , I don't see how adding to the realism is poor taste.
McDanger Jan 2, 2016 @ 3:33pm 
this is a video game not actual war, and most countries do not use child soldiers, hopefully no modder is sick enough to make it
Ycraes Jan 3, 2016 @ 12:26am 
Spoken as one truely blessed by the innocent side of life, people can make mods of relegious extremists and its not considered wrong, they on the otherhand are not a common thing in the world as a whole. I suppose some people have weaker stomachs than others.
It would not make a model realistic or immersive to simply shrink it, if your goal is to simulate "child soldiers."

You would need new animations, you would need to figure out how to get them to work properly given that they wouldn't be able to even shoot out of windows and such if not tall enough.

I mean, the AI in this game already is hard to have an "immersive" experience with. If you want a realistic immersion, you would need civilians with realistic AI in any kind of war zone, as well as a good way of dealing with them. You would need blood and gore, you would need many things that honestly aren't conducive to good gameplay. Or at least very difficult to make and not as important as the simulation itself.

In other words, what D'Harhan said. Possible yes, but not in good taste. I would add to that it would also add nothing to gameplay value in any way even if you didn't care about being "politically correct," which I certainly do not.
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Terper Jan 3, 2016 @ 1:49am 
I like children. ;)
Ycraes Jan 3, 2016 @ 8:36am 
Originally posted by Echonian:
It would not make a model realistic or immersive to simply shrink it, if your goal is to simulate "child soldiers."

You would need new animations, you would need to figure out how to get them to work properly given that they wouldn't be able to even shoot out of windows and such if not tall enough.

I mean, the AI in this game already is hard to have an "immersive" experience with. If you want a realistic immersion, you would need civilians with realistic AI in any kind of war zone, as well as a good way of dealing with them. You would need blood and gore, you would need many things that honestly aren't conducive to good gameplay. Or at least very difficult to make and not as important as the simulation itself.

In other words, what D'Harhan said. Possible yes, but not in good taste. I would add to that it would also add nothing to gameplay value in any way even if you didn't care about being "politically correct," which I certainly do not.

True, the ai, and civilian ai in this game leaves a little to be desired, there has been some speculation that the Tanoa dlc is going to rectify this a little bit, perhaps then modding it in wil be a little more on the side of feasable or at least worth doing.
RNAV 17 Jan 3, 2016 @ 10:02am 
Instead of you all whining about child soldiers why dony you just help him with the mod
Shortround Jan 4, 2016 @ 12:16am 
The reason A3 has yet to have "women & children" in it's game is because of peoples opinions on whether or not it's appropiate. There is a Woman Soldier mod, and I support it 10/10, but Children? Really? If someone made a mod to support child soldiers, ♥♥♥♥ them.
Speedbump Jan 4, 2016 @ 12:21am 
Originally posted by J. Doberman:
The reason A3 has yet to have "women & children" in it's game is because of peoples opinions on whether or not it's appropiate. There is a Woman Soldier mod, and I support it 10/10, but Children? Really? If someone made a mod to support child soldiers, ♥♥♥♥ them.
Gotta agree with OP on this one, personally. Obviously everyone has different opinions, and I would agree children shouldn't be a public mod or added to ArmA 3 officially as too many people disagree with it, but personally I see no issue with it.
ColtonAmour Jan 4, 2016 @ 5:57am 
This is the beginning of Kony becoming an Arma 3 modder
Pewpewpew Sep 3, 2017 @ 1:36pm 
Originally posted by J. Doberman DayZRP.com:
The reason A3 has yet to have "women & children" in it's game is because of peoples opinions on whether or not it's appropiate. There is a Woman Soldier mod, and I support it 10/10, but Children? Really? If someone made a mod to support child soldiers, ♥♥♥♥ them.

Hypocrisy has no bounds. A child model in a video game is just as irrelevant as an adult model in a video game. The characters you see in video games are not actual people. Its absurd to even have emotions about it. So being offended by the creation of a character model of a child. Is just as stupid as being offended by the creation of a doll. Are you afraid that people will buy a doll and use it for target practice? After all the doll is modeled after a child and great harm (damage) can be done to it. Dolls aren't real people. Character models in video games aren't real people. If you think that there is any correlation between the two (human children and pixels generated on a computer to simulate children) then I invite you to come back to reality.

I am against any violence towards humans, men, women, or children but it has to be actual violence against actual people. I don't care if you commit violence against a simulated human in a video game because I am intelligent enough to know the difference between actual people and virtual people. I don't care if you throw virtual babies off virtual buildings. Because they are not actual babies. I don't even care if you put virtual puppies in a virtual oven. Its not real. You do any of these things in the real world. Then we have a problem.

In my years of gaming, I have robbed virtual banks, murdered entire virtual families, assaulted virtual people, killed countless virtual cops, owned virtual slaves, sexually assaulted virtual women, and killed virtual kids.

All these virtual crimes are just as irrelevant as the next because none of them are real. I have no desire nor will I ever have a desire to replicate these crimes in real life because I understand which one is real.

If violence against virtual people gets you emotional, then you have no business playing video games.

Dj Otacon Sep 3, 2017 @ 1:47pm 
Agree with @Sgt_Hawkins but sadly there's a lot people interested to make a good tabloid banner.
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El Berl Sep 3, 2017 @ 2:34pm 
Originally posted by Dj Otacon:
Agree with @Sgt_Hawkins but sadly there's a lot people interested to make a good tabloid banner.

Dang right. A bunch of tabloids are going to go nuclear the minute someone releases a child soldier mod. It's not hard to make, just make different faces and scale down the playermodel. You don't need A-class Bohemia quality so you can retain the same animations. It's probably a three hour job at most. I'm surprised there's not an underground mod out there.
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