Arma 3
Is the Titan MPRL Compact designed to be useless?
Tried using it against a tank in the open, would not lock.

It did have a heat signature, cause I looked at it in nvg/heat mode and it was a bright white colour,but it still did not lock.

Another time, a tank was moving behind a hill, I could clearly see the top half of the tank, but I couldn't get a lock. It then moved partially behind a small tree, so the front half was covered, and I STILL couldn't get a lock. This is presumably because the ENTIRETY of the tank wasn't visible, so the game decided it was unlockable.


The Titan MPRL Compact just seems like Bohemia does not want it to to be used, Since from what it appears, it can only lock onto a vehicle if these conditions are all met:

A) Vehicle MUST have engine on (Not for the PCML, APPARENTLY)
B) Vehicle MUST be MOVING (Not for the PCML, APPARENTLY)
C) Vehicle MUST NOT be HIDDEN behind ANY sort of OBSTACLE.


It even says on the Armed Assault Wiki:
"The missile can lock onto 'hot' targets that are up to 2 km away, and is only able to track mobile targets that are moving at speeds of up to 900 km/h. " - https://armedassault.fandom.com/wiki/Titan_MPRL_Compact#:~:text=The%20missile%20can%20lock%20onto,up%20to%20900%20km%2Fh.



The only thing going for the Titan MPRL Compact is that:
A) It has a range of up to 2km, way further than the PCML's 800m
B) It has a better top down attack than the PCML, allowing it to do more damage to armour.
C) It is a SACLOS Guided Missile, soit's easier to hit without lock on.


Now, for the people who are gonna say "If you couldn't lock onto it, then just guide the missile manually".

Against low armoured vehicles like cars and APC's, that can work.
Against a TANK, that has way more armour and also has ERA, you ain't doing ♥♥♥♥.
↑ This is why the Titan (PCML also) has a Top down attack, to bypass the ERA, the Armour AND, with the addition of hitting it's target behind cover.


Hell, Bohemia should make it so, if you fire a Titan AT missile in top down mode manually, If you aim slightly above the enemy tanks Turret, it should explode down into the turret like a Tow missile, shown here:
https://youtu.be/E1VWPOpYbQI?t=7

Edit: Also, I know the PCML can ALSO attack top down, and the PCML missile seems to act similar to a tow. I have tested this in game, and the PCML, in top down mode, does NOT attack top down. It just goes from hitting the chasis, to hitting the turret or barrel. I've even tested it in manual mode, it will just fly over the tank without detonating.

Also Also, the PCML is NOT made for anti tank engagement, it is used for lightly armoured vehicles, such as cars and APC's.

Edit 2, the electric bungaloo: After some more testing, it seems that the PCML needs quite a bit of distance for it to engage top down, maybe 350m+, same with the Titan.
The titan, with top down, only did damage to 2 areas, the turret (red, still operable) and the hull (yellow). Top down requires 2 direct hits to kill a tank. 2+ needed to kill a tank from the sides direct.
however, it takes 1, and ONLY ONE, to either Kill or disable the tank from the rear.
Why the rear? Why is the rear a 1 shot (which would get absorbed by the engine), while a top down attack, which would mainly injure the crew and possibly hit the ammo, causing cook off) not be?

Edit 3, the reckoning: After some more testing, these "armour" values are completely random.
Hit a test tank in the frontal era, it cooked off seconds later, yet after a restart, and hitting the same place at the same angle, it Doesn't cook off?

Seems to be RNG if a missile kills a tank or not, unless it was a bomb or maverick. Those are practically insta kills.
Last edited by TheUnluckyOne; May 1, 2024 @ 8:30am
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lucg Apr 30, 2024 @ 2:58am 
I think, the dammage depends on your level of difficulty (settings). It seems with veteran or expert level, you do less damage, I may be wrong ... . It takes me 2 shots on an MBT and the A.I. ennemy got me with one shot (me in MBT) ... .

Also, try to find higher ground where you can spot/engage then retreat in cover.

And attack top to bottom not work well with unmanned turret ... .
Last edited by lucg; Apr 30, 2024 @ 2:59am
KapitanSWAT May 1, 2024 @ 8:14am 
Titan MPRL is the AA launcher tho...? I don't get what you're trying to prove here
TheUnluckyOne May 1, 2024 @ 8:32am 
Originally posted by KapitanSWAT:
Titan MPRL is the AA launcher tho...? I don't get what you're trying to prove here
There, I added compact for more accuracy.
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Date Posted: Apr 29, 2024 @ 2:11pm
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