Why doesn't the game allow for two primary weapons?

[Shunk]

I don't understand why the launcher slot isn't just another weapon slot (that can have a launcher or second primary or whatever). For a game focused on realism it seems like an odd limitation. I just figured I'd bring it up with the DLC coming out soon. Anybody have any input on this?

EDIT: So some of you keep calling me a COD kid because of this question. I'm not asking for an LMG and a rifle or something like that. But as mentioned in this discussion it would be nice to be able to have an SMG (or something similar) while playing a sniper. This game is a SANDBOX and it just seems like an odd limitation to say "hey you can carry this rocket launcher on your back, but absolutely nothing else." 99% of the time I wouldn't even think of this, but there are a few situations where it is viable even if a bit unrealistic.

For the rest of you who gave valuable input, and especially those who explained how real military ops worked, thank you.

[El Berl]

It's more about having the liberty to have a second weapon more than the practicality of it. A soldier with an XM-25 and an M4A1 has a massive advantage in firepower compared to a soldier with just one. Of course, then you have to account for weight and ammo capacity. If the stamina system is reworked to be more realistic like ACE3's, then you will find people making realistic cuts in other areas to preserve mobility.

If someone doubles-up on primaries, they will likely forego any AT or sidearm and also cut corners on the body armor and helmet. If things are made more realistic, then there is a natural and logical balance.

[El Berl]

I use that mod all the time, but it's not the definitive solution some of us want. It breaks often and it is clunky to use with virtual arsenal. In addition, the "gun on back" does not weigh you down.

We need a "sling" feature that allows us to either carry a launcher and/or as many primaries as ergonomically possible.

[Starker]

I totally agree that this needs to changed. You should be able to carry a weapon on sling and one in your hands, regardless of what it is, such as a grenade launcher and an assault rifle, sniper rifle and assault rifle, etc.

Real world proof of concept:
https://media.defense.gov/2015/Aug/05/2001267290/-1/-1/0/150729-M-PY808-012.JPG

I think players should be allowed to sling an LMG on their back if they wish, but they should also suffer the consequences of carrying the weight.

[El Berl]

Publicado originalmente por Starker:

I totally agree that this needs to changed. You should be able to carry a weapon on sling and one in your hands, regardless of what it is, such as a grenade launcher and an assault rifle, sniper rifle and assault rifle, etc.

Real world proof of concept:
https://media.defense.gov/2015/Aug/05/2001267290/-1/-1/0/150729-M-PY808-012.JPG

I think players should be allowed to sling an LMG on their back if they wish, but they should also suffer the consequences of carrying the weight.

Absolutely agreed.

[Cowtipper]

Publicado originalmente por crplsteve:

Why don't you ask for killstreaks and wall jumping while your at it, Freaking COD kids comming here and trying to ruin my milsim experiance.

xD this guy , is a cod kid , amazing how things change in only a few months haha

[Shunk]

I don't understand how this post keeps getting revived....

[Cowtipper]

Publicado originalmente por Shunk:

I don't understand how this post keeps getting revived....

Because its a relevant issue that alot of people agree with , the secondary slot should be personal choice not locked to only rockets and launchers ect

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[Sgt Smash]

Publicado originalmente por axonMagnus:

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Says the guy who says he and his mates are done with arma for the last 2 years but can't help coming back to narco peoples posts lol

[El Berl]

Publicado originalmente por Cowtipper:

Publicado originalmente por Shunk:

I don't understand how this post keeps getting revived....

Because its a relevant issue that alot of people agree with , the secondary slot should be personal choice not locked to only rockets and launchers ect

As long as ergonomic limits are considered, we should be able to carry as many weapons as ergonomically possible.

We just need to revise the stamina model to be like ACE3's.

[FutureRegrets]

Publicado originalmente por Starker:

I totally agree that this needs to changed. You should be able to carry a weapon on sling and one in your hands, regardless of what it is, such as a grenade launcher and an assault rifle, sniper rifle and assault rifle, etc.

Real world proof of concept:
https://media.defense.gov/2015/Aug/05/2001267290/-1/-1/0/150729-M-PY808-012.JPG

I think players should be allowed to sling an LMG on their back if they wish, but they should also suffer the consequences of carrying the weight.

I disagree. It's not practical for every soldier to carry 2 weapons, and that's exactly what'd you'd get if this were a vanilla feature. If we're basing it on real life, it's rare to find a soldier who carries more than 9/10 magazines, if you try to split those mags among multiple weapons you can find yourself short on the weapon you need. Ultimately, allowing 2 primary weapons in public games is going to be a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ where nobody plays their roles and everyone takes impractical loadouts. Either way, I believe there's a couple mods that allow 2 primaries, and few players using/requesting this feature. So I'd say it isn't worth the Dev's time. If you aren't happy with the mods, you can always take a stab at making your own.

[El Berl]

Publicado originalmente por Lagon78:

Publicado originalmente por Starker:

I totally agree that this needs to changed. You should be able to carry a weapon on sling and one in your hands, regardless of what it is, such as a grenade launcher and an assault rifle, sniper rifle and assault rifle, etc.

Real world proof of concept:
https://media.defense.gov/2015/Aug/05/2001267290/-1/-1/0/150729-M-PY808-012.JPG

I think players should be allowed to sling an LMG on their back if they wish, but they should also suffer the consequences of carrying the weight.

I disagree. It's not practical for every soldier to carry 2 weapons, and that's exactly what'd you'd get if this were a vanilla feature. If we're basing it on real life, it's rare to find a soldier who carries more than 9/10 magazines, if you try to split those mags among multiple weapons you can find yourself short on the weapon you need. Ultimately, allowing 2 primary weapons in public games is going to be a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ where nobody plays their roles and everyone takes impractical loadouts. Either way, I believe there's a couple mods that allow 2 primaries, and few players using/requesting this feature. So I'd say it isn't worth the Dev's time. If you aren't happy with the mods, you can always take a stab at making your own.

Oh, it's worth the developers' time. Carry two guns at your peril and your level of realism.

[Craigy]

you want to know why becuse this in not a run and gun FPS its a mil sim have you ever seen a solder with 2 prim weps i bet you haven't you want to have 2 primary weapons go play cod and BF and the launcher in slot 2 is to make up for the fact they can make it were its mil sim were 2-3 ppl would share the load of the launcher you dont like it dont play

[Dick Caught In Fan]

wow sounds like carrying two primarys really hit a nerve with you and yes i have seen snipers carry their long range rifles and a carbine