Arma 3 Apex Campaign - Disapointing for a solo player

[RIOT|Stalkermaster]

So I played abit of the campaign and well its alot different to the normal campaign and even the way its handled in OA

So some things to mention

1. You cant truely play it solo, you can play it one player but you wont have any AI to command and no way to get them.

Solution - The host of the lobby gets 3 ai to control to replace the missing real players

2. Its set up as a MP game. Meaning no saving and such. Which also leads to

3. Its a class system so you pick a class. Which means that you can change on the fly which is useless if you try and play solo as the other classes mean jack nothing

4. I hope you like to kill 30+ guys by yourself with a respawn system to boot so you can die and some how spawn 200 meters infront of the patrol.

Maybe playing it in Co Op would change my mind, but right now it needs to have some changes to make it enjoyable for a solo player.

These changes are not hard to implement since the systems are already there, there just needs to be a pure sp mode that allows for saving and having Ai buddies to control.

[Stout]

of course is disapointing

[RIOT|Stalkermaster]

Originally posted by DayZ:

of course is disapointing

Well it doesnt have to be

[Theo Hardmeier]

Finished it on veteran today and damn...it is not single player friendly your right about that...the last mission was...geez. Must have had to kill like nearly 40+ foes solo.

I was dissapointed as well.

[RIOT|Stalkermaster]

Originally posted by Theo Hardmeier:

Finished it on veteran today and damn...it is not single player friendly your right about that...the last mission was...geez. Must have had to kill like nearly 40+ foes solo.

I was dissapointed as well.

Damm, havnt made it there yet. Are there any missions that are solo friendly? I'm up to 3

[NobodysLaw]

It is solo friendly, you just have to be very careful. And if you die you respawn and don't reload where you have to do everything again.

So it can't get more user friendly :P

[RIOT|Stalkermaster]

Originally posted by Nobody:

It is solo friendly, you just have to be very careful. And if you die you respawn and don't reload where you have to do everything again.

So it can't get more user friendly :P

I would rather be able to save. Respawing while playing solo in this type of game is silly to say Battlefront 2. If no saving then Ai buddies is a must for solo players

[Theo Hardmeier]

Originally posted by RIOT|Stalkermaster:

Originally posted by Theo Hardmeier:

Finished it on veteran today and damn...it is not single player friendly your right about that...the last mission was...geez. Must have had to kill like nearly 40+ foes solo.

I was dissapointed as well.

Damm, havnt made it there yet. Are there any missions that are solo friendly? I'm up to 3

All mission involve you doing most of the killing.
Some more than others and two stand out like mad though...you will know which ones when you reach them.

[RIOT|Stalkermaster]

Originally posted by Theo Hardmeier:

Originally posted by RIOT|Stalkermaster:

Damm, havnt made it there yet. Are there any missions that are solo friendly? I'm up to 3

All mission involve you doing most of the killing.
Some more than others and two stand out like mad though...you will know which ones when you reach them.

I might not continue then. Might be better to wait and see if they make it a little more solo friendly. I feel they might and the option for solo play is a place holder for the real deal. At least the new showcase is good.

[Theo Hardmeier]

Originally posted by RIOT|Stalkermaster:

Originally posted by Theo Hardmeier:

All mission involve you doing most of the killing.
Some more than others and two stand out like mad though...you will know which ones when you reach them.

I might not continue then. Might be better to wait and see if they make it a little more solo friendly. I feel they might and the option for solo play is a place holder for the real deal. At least the new showcase is good.

Placeholder sounds about right.

[useless puppy]

Anyone in the NA want to play it with me?

[Pèpè Silvia]

Originally posted by DayZ:

of course is disapointing

So is your trolling heh

It's not even officially released yet...Maybe they wanted to just test the coop stability before adding AI?

[NobodysLaw]

Originally posted by Pèpè Silvia:

Originally posted by DayZ:

of course is disapointing

So is your trolling heh

It's not even officially released yet...

The campaign itself won't change until release, only some cutscenes will be added.

And the campaign is boring, not compareable with the East Wind campaign which is superb.

[RIOT|Stalkermaster]

Well a dev just responded on the offical forums to us complaining about some of the problems I mentioned above and well it's not good news.

They are listening to feedback but ...

I would be all day here writing what he said, but basically pure SP people like me and you are not the target demographic anymore because they noticed a lot of people don't know that Arma 3 has an official campaign or scenarios or anything they only belive it to be training with Mp the only official content or something like that.

Basically from the looks of it, from here on out their sp content will be focused on Co op and Mp from what I'm reading here which is to say disapointing.

So they ain't including Ai team mates because it's something criticised from people despite it working fine in the excellent East wind campaign.

You can find this response here on page 7, I put 8 by accident
https://forums.bistudio.com/topic/192300-co-op-campaign-apex-protocol/page-8

[Silent]

Originally posted by 「Teach Us Scáthach Sensei」:

Anyone in the NA want to play it with me?

I'd probably be up for it. Only a few friends of mine ended up getting Apex. Send an add and we can play it later.

[Theo Hardmeier]

Originally posted by RIOT|Stalkermaster:

Well a dev just responded on the offical forums to us complaining about some of the problems I mentioned above and well it's not good news.

They are listening to feedback but ...

I would be all day here writing what he said, but basically pure SP people like me and you are not the target demographic anymore because they noticed a lot of people don't know that Arma 3 has an official campaign or scenarios or anything they only belive it to be training with Mp the only official content or something like that.

Basically from the looks of it, from here on out their sp content will be focused on Co op and Mp from what I'm reading here which is to say disapointing.

So they ain't including Ai team mates because it's something criticised from people despite it working fine in the excellent East wind campaign.

You can find this response here on page 7, I put 8 by accident
https://forums.bistudio.com/topic/192300-co-op-campaign-apex-protocol/page-8

Key quotes from zipper5 on page 7 marked by **'. **While they are no doubt capable of feats perhaps considered impossible in other games, it's sometimes difficult for many players to look past their weaknesses. Early on in Apex's development we decided to focus all our energy on players co-operating with each other, and have Commanding sit this one out this time.**

So because of all the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ of all the ai's on the forums. They decide to leave it out.
A good commander dosent suffer the "flaws" of the ai because they know how to command.

Heres another beauty...**as that would mean a solo player would fail the mission each time they were killed. They wouldn't have a chance to call a friend for help, and they'd have to play through the whole mission again. This was indeed the case in Firing From Vehicles, and we felt this was definitely not how we wanted to facilitate solo play in Apex Protocol.**

So dying a loading a save game is bad now...like its been in games seen like...forever.

Not sure where their logic is coming from.