Where are the PVP servers?

[alessandro]

What's up guys? Why y'all play domination or insurgency or other PVE gamemodes? Where is the PVP on this community? Why am I forced to play a wasteland server or run SQUAD for PVP? I don't know if it's only a problem of mine but I can't find a PVP server if it ain't a wasteland or the KOH. Where is the REAL MILSIM PVP? I mean the one that the clans play with the IA.

Suggest me a nice PVP server please, i am ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ bored of these PVE gamemodes

[The Scotsman]

reason why i uninstalled arma there was no pvp milsim organised servers that i found. all pve milsims

[Paradox1126]

multiplayer is dead in this game and if you're looking for a viable pvp then stick with squad because wasteland is the best that you can get..

that said.. this community seems to hate pvp and the majority of players want to play dress up barbie and tinker with config.ini files or spend 1000 hrs of using the editor cause ya know... its 'cool'..

wasteland, warlords, and king of the hill are the only options and you're looking at 4 servers tops for this..

[CW2 P. Larkins]

because playing pvp on arma 3 is an unfunny joke, i have no idea why you would willingly subject yourself to trying pvp with how clunky the game is. seriously, you have to hate yourself or something. it's bad enough against AI, put players metagaming to compensate into the mix and it becomes cancer. just look at warlords - if there is an exploit or trick to get yourself ahead of people it is used relentlessly.

go play Squad for PVP it is much better suited for it. arma 3 just is not suited for it.

[Paradox1126]

Originally posted by Enlightened Larkins:

because playing pvp on arma 3 is an unfunny joke, i have no idea why you would willingly subject yourself to trying pvp with how clunky the game is. seriously, you have to hate yourself or something. it's bad enough against AI, put players metagaming to compensate into the mix and it becomes cancer. just look at warlords - if there is an exploit or trick to get yourself ahead of people it is used relentlessly.

go play Squad for PVP it is much better suited for it. arma 3 just is not suited for it.

it's 100% geared to pvp. i don't use cheats or exploits and i dont give a damn about the meta.. the players ruin that not the game.

[BluEye]

Originally posted by alessandro:

What's up guys? Why y'all play domination or insurgency or other PVE gamemodes? Where is the PVP on this community? Why am I forced to play a wasteland server or run SQUAD for PVP? I don't know if it's only a problem of mine but I can't find a PVP server if it ain't a wasteland or the KOH. Where is the REAL MILSIM PVP? I mean the one that the clans play with the IA.

Suggest me a nice PVP server please, i am ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ bored of these PVE gamemodes

Mil-sim PVP? Are you kidding? 1. Arma is not suited for that. 2. It's so damn hard to organize stuff like that because player will not follow mil-sim procedures and all of that will soon become a classic FPS like Counter Strike and games like that.

[Paradox1126]

Originally posted by BluEye:

Originally posted by alessandro:

What's up guys? Why y'all play domination or insurgency or other PVE gamemodes? Where is the PVP on this community? Why am I forced to play a wasteland server or run SQUAD for PVP? I don't know if it's only a problem of mine but I can't find a PVP server if it ain't a wasteland or the KOH. Where is the REAL MILSIM PVP? I mean the one that the clans play with the IA.

Suggest me a nice PVP server please, i am ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ bored of these PVE gamemodes

Mil-sim PVP? Are you kidding? 1. Arma is not suited for that. 2. It's so damn hard to organize stuff like that because player will not follow mil-sim procedures and all of that will soon become a classic FPS like Counter Strike and games like that.

Maybe you're thinking that because you're imagining an arena based level.

Wasteland, warlords, and king of the hill are two perfect examples of how well it works.

There's a difference between it doesn't work or I don't like it cause there are ♥♥♥♥ heads in the lobby. That goes for anything.

I hate cod precisely because of the community. But a lobby of good players not screaming racist and homophobic comments makes the game a lot more enjoyable.

Squad is great but you can't do in squad what you could do in Arma. The same way squad is a little better than battlefield and why battlefield is better than cod... The pieces of toys that it gives you.

Look at modes like endgame or vanguard.. it's not that it can't be done it's that this community looks at PvP and public servers like they're cancer. It's ridiculous

[BluEye]

Originally posted by Paradox1126:

Originally posted by BluEye:

Mil-sim PVP? Are you kidding? 1. Arma is not suited for that. 2. It's so damn hard to organize stuff like that because player will not follow mil-sim procedures and all of that will soon become a classic FPS like Counter Strike and games like that.

Maybe you're thinking that because you're imagining an arena based level.

Wasteland, warlords, and king of the hill are two perfect examples of how well it works.

There's a difference between it doesn't work or I don't like it cause there are ♥♥♥♥ heads in the lobby. That goes for anything.

I hate cod precisely because of the community. But a lobby of good players not screaming racist and homophobic comments makes the game a lot more enjoyable.

Squad is great but you can't do in squad what you could do in Arma. The same way squad is a little better than battlefield and why battlefield is better than cod... The pieces of toys that it gives you.

Look at modes like endgame or vanguard.. it's not that it can't be done it's that this community looks at PvP and public servers like they're cancer. It's ridiculous

Yupp I totally agree but that isn’t the thing I’ve wrote about, issue will be to find a serious group of players who actually understands the point of milsim and who atleast know basics about it. To make a mission for that is easy as always.

[alessandro]

I recently tried EUW Warfare (sadly I don't remember its full name), it's a PVP server where the factions have to conquest territories and fight to keep them under your faction's control. Now, the server offers all the vanilla arma3's features plus some scripts like credits and something more that I did not test, and you don't have to download GB of mods and ♥♥♥♥♥ which you will barely use, none has his own character pimped with gay suits and it's all lore-friendly. And it's a fantastic server, and yes it's pvp. You don't need to download a load of mods and play against the IA to make your gameplay "milsim", you just need to setup a server with your brain.

Originally posted by Enlightened Larkins:

because playing pvp on arma 3 is an unfunny joke, i have no idea why you would willingly subject yourself to trying pvp with how clunky the game is. seriously, you have to hate yourself or something. it's bad enough against AI, put players metagaming to compensate into the mix and it becomes cancer. just look at warlords - if there is an exploit or trick to get yourself ahead of people it is used relentlessly.

go play Squad for PVP it is much better suited for it. arma 3 just is not suited for it.

For my experience it wasn't like that, I had fun with the homies

Originally posted by BluEye:

Squad is great but you can't do in squad what you could do in Arma. The same way squad is a little better than battlefield and why battlefield is better than cod... The pieces of toys that it gives you.

The user here did get the point of this discussion. Why I should logout from ARMA 3 and login in SQUAD when I want to play, roleplay, simulate or whatever I'd like to do in PVP with other players? I don't think Bohemia designed the multiplayer to play against the IA, even if some gamemodes (Escape, for example) are designed for it. I think Bohemia is lacking of community managers to spread the PVP in this game, and this is so damn sad because a new user who buys the game expecting to play milsim against other players will only gets a tons of PVE servers and he will probably unistall the game.

Just to add a simple note: I ain't against the PVE, if you find it funny good for you then, I hope you will enjoy your game.

[CW2 P. Larkins]

ik the game mode you are talking about, it is a good example of how it could work, but the key note about it is simple:

it is a forgotten/pushed aside game mode. it has become niche within the community

there are VERY few warfare, BECTI warfare, etc game modes that still exist to this day. It has gotten so bad that Arma 2 OA sometimes has more warfare PVP focused servers than Arma 3 does. it is an ironic twist - as the game becomes more and more of a casual-bait game than an actual military simulator sandbox, all the casual-oriented pvp modes are also dying out. think about wasteland - a few years ago you could easily go through multiple pages of wasteland servers to find the one you wanted. now? either pick A, B, or C. Don't like any of them? too bad.

as for BI's intentions.. honestly dude they probably don't have intentions period, I mean it IS a sandbox game. however one cannot ignore that the vast majority of the game's "community" is either in PVE units (aka like 99% of units, lets be really honest here) or has given up dealing with mp and just play singleplayer only. all pvp modes released officially by BI are ridden with exploits, bugs, and just overall low IQ bad gameplay. at least their PVE game modes work properly unlike the PVP stuff like warlords, endgame etc - they have so many exploits and bugs within them that you would be a fool to actively participate in them.

tl;dr bohemia interactive is schizophrenic and we shoudn't be looking at them to decide anything at all, they don't even care about their game at this point as far as I am concerned. player analytics wide it is in fact PVE focused, PVP servers are simply in the minority compared to all the private and public PVE servers and milsims. this trend is even reflected in workshop items and mods designed to enhance AI being very popular and widely used. if you found good pvp modes like BECTI warfare, etc (these are all from arma 2 btw!) that manage to have a good community that is fantastic for you, but those always run the risk of flat out dying one day cause they've simply become niche. if you got arma 3 specifically for pvp you're in for a bad time with variety and miss out on a lot of unit-based PVE functions

[El Berl]

If only Milsim-vs-Milsim PVP events were more of a thing.

[TheFireRunner]

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