Arma 3 Milsim is dead

[Nossa30]

Arma 3 Milsim is Dead.

Yes, there are still private milsim events. But public Milsim is dead. Replaced by Squad.

Arma 3 has been invaded by 12 yr olds who want to play LIFE, KOTH, and EXILE mods. Open up Arma 3 server browser right now and I can 100% guarantee these will be the most played game modes.

Goodbye Arma 3, the Military simulation days of Arma 2 are so far long gone. We had a good run.

[Arkada64]

yeah i know what you mean. hopefully squad will take over soon

[El Berl]

http://steamcharts.com/app/393380

Squad has about 4,000 daily players. Sure, I do have to agree to an extent but the people there are not automatically milsim-grade just because they play Squad. Squad is not a ballbusting "gotta get tactical or else" type like SWAT 4 with SEF or UT99 Infiltration and so it accepts those who are not digital commandos with perfect field tactics and flawless radio discipline.

We've got KOTH, Life, and Exile nimwits out the ars.e, on that we can definitely agree. They're a cancer on our community and on the values that Arma did once stand for. Now we've got newbies all over the shop with a lack of direction because the good and pure modes like Co40, Co27, BMR, EUTW, and Liberation are on their last knees while KOTH remains unchallenged.

I personally just think that this generation of gaming is incompatible with a shooter that demands a long attention span. If Squad provides some competition, then perhaps Bohemia will really kick it into gear, but they don't have the numbers to push against Bohemia very well.

[Captain n00by]

Maybe if people wouldn't behave like sheep, you could organize and form some good mil-sim communities with dedicated servers which would run those type of game modes and try to promote them on public places like Steam, Reddit, FB, etc?

Just because the game is overflown with "Life" servers doesn't mean you have to cave in and leave for some other (imo worse) option.

[El Berl]

Squad has substantially less content and vastly inferior workshop support. We're sitting on the greatest mound of realistic warfighting content (all of it free) that the world has ever seen in a realistic first-person-shooter. We're just sitting on it and on our hands.

If we want to actually reclaim Arma, it starts by convincing our dozens of one-week four-man milsim "units" to merge together into larger forces that can maintain large servers.

[Vin.]

I'm one of the people who switched from a pretty dedicated mil-sim style of Arma to Squad. Maybe Arma 4 can rejuvenate it.. who knows.

[Zed]

Originally posted by V. Berlioz:

We've got KOTH, Life, and Exile nimwits out the ars.e, on that we can definitely agree. They're a cancer on our community and on the values that Arma did once stand for.

Why do you care how people decide to play Arma? For me, I do not play KOTH or Life... although I have tried both. I haven't played Exile in about a year or so but I enjoyed it. Put a lot of hours into it. Same thing with DayZ mod and Breaking Point. I've also tried some mil sim stuff and have played a ton of mission and scenarios.

I never get mad that someone else wants to play Arma differently than the way I play. I mean... what exactly are you mad about? The fact that no one wants to play Arma the exact way you play? Did it ever occur to you that maybe people on this planet do not enjoy the same things the same way you do? You call these people a cancer, but what would happen to Arma if they never showed up in the first place? The game wouldn't have probably 90% of their sales and customer base. An actual cancerous attitude in the Arma community would be one that wished people went away or one that complained about how certain people play it.

For me, what makes Arma so special... is how easily it can be modded and how the experience can be tailored to any one gamer who is looking for something in particular. I can play with a mil sim group on Fridays and play Exile any other day.

I think the life servers are boring and immature, generally... but why get mad at people for wanting to play it? More players is better for Arma, not bad. You seem to confuse what is better for you, compared to what is better for the rest of the world. The rest of the world gets to decide this. Not you.

Now we've got newbies all over the shop with a lack of direction

I've been playing Arma 2 and 3 for a very long time. There have always been newbies popping their heads around wanting to know how to play. Arma is a completely different type of game and universe than what most gamers are aware of. Once they realize what it is they want to dive in. You and I were both there one day.

[Zed]

Originally posted by Vin.:

I'm one of the people who switched from a pretty dedicated mil-sim style of Arma to Squad. Maybe Arma 4 can rejuvenate it.. who knows.

I'm not into Squad at all. I've tried it twice on free weekends and both times couldn't get into it. I would much rather play Arma.

[El Berl]

Originally posted by Donnie_Plays:

Originally posted by V. Berlioz:

We've got KOTH, Life, and Exile nimwits out the ars.e, on that we can definitely agree. They're a cancer on our community and on the values that Arma did once stand for.

Why do you care how people decide to play Arma? For me, I do not play KOTH or Life... although I have tried both. I haven't played Exile in about a year or so but I enjoyed it. Put a lot of hours into it. Same thing with DayZ mod and Breaking Point. I've also tried some mil sim stuff and have played a ton of mission and scenarios.

I never get mad that someone else wants to play Arma differently than the way I play. I mean... what exactly are you mad about? The fact that no one wants to play Arma the exact way you play? Did it ever occur to you that maybe people on this planet do not enjoy the same things the same way you do? You call these people a cancer, but what would happen to Arma if they never showed up in the first place? The game wouldn't have probably 90% of their sales and customer base. An actual cancerous attitude in the Arma community would be one that wished people went away or one that complained about how certain people play it.

For me, what makes Arma so special... is how easily it can be modded and how the experience can be tailored to any one gamer who is looking for something in particular. I can play with a mil sim group on Fridays and play Exile any other day.

I think the life servers are boring and immature, generally... but why get mad at people for wanting to play it? More players is better for Arma, not bad. You seem to confuse what is better for you, compared to what is better for the rest of the world. The rest of the world gets to decide this. Not you.

Now we've got newbies all over the shop with a lack of direction

I've been playing Arma 2 and 3 for a very long time. There have always been newbies popping their heads around wanting to know how to play. Arma is a completely different type of game and universe than what most gamers are aware of. Once they realize what it is they want to dive in. You and I were both there one day.

Oh sweet summer child. No game can appeal to all demographics at once. If it does, it becomes diluted and fails to find direction.

[McBeer]

Plagued by SF Groups.

[El Berl]

Originally posted by Gomer Pyle:

Plagued by SF Groups.

Plagued by "Special" Forces.

[Dick Caught In Fan]

gomer pyle you mean wanna-be sf

[PoppaCapnurass]

Though own and I really enjoy Squad when I play, it feels so much like a console game incomparison to Arma 3. I will enjoy Squad a lot more sometime soon when it goes through a few few more updates.

I'd like to join some A3 Milsims, the few I have done have been excellent. My only staple these days is the odd Zeus game that gets trashed by some person or with a mental illness and it just becomes a waste of time.

So KOTH is pretty much it for now. Still has the console sandbox but a lot more freedom and some excellent team playing too.

[McBeer]

Originally posted by Milkman Of Human Kindness:

gomer pyle you mean wanna-be sf

Yeah basically.

[Dick Caught In Fan]

i find it to be pretty funny that people focus on what gear they use and how they look more than using decent tactics or actually being good at the game. but hey at least they look good when they respawn.

[El Berl]

Originally posted by Milkman Of Human Kindness:

i find it to be pretty funny that people focus on what gear they use and how they look more than using decent tactics or actually being good at the game. but hey at least they look good when they respawn.

Hundreds of years of warfare reveal to us that home field advantage as well as knowledge of The Art of War (Sun Tzu) will buy the poorly-equipped a massive advantage over the well-equipped types that fail to understand true tactics.

ENVG-IIs and the like are crutches.