Wise Memory Optimizer. Yay or Nay?

[Recon]

Ok gentlemen. I asked around on forums for a good memory optimizing utility and the only 1 that someone told me about is "Wise Memory Optimizer". So basicly, I am asking, has anyone ever used this utility and is it worth it. It is free so I am really considering it. One last thing, does this program burn up you Ram Chips or is it safe? Thanks.

[ELi]

It's snake oil.

[Recon]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von ELi:

It's snake oil.

I have it installed. Apparently, it says it lowers my ram usage by windows and background processes but I'm not sure if this really does what it says.

[Recon]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von ELi:

It's snake oil.

you are right. I tried running wise memory optimizer and then playin Arma and the game crashed to desktop with an error message stating that "memory could not be read". So this really is snake oil.

[J. Elkroc]

Yeah, I suggested it only because I have tried it to overcome the 0xc0000005 errors (memory access violation) I was getting constantly. Lately the problem has disappeared. Perhaps BI fixed the bug that was killing my instances. I don't think Memory Optimizer helped but I still use it because I understand the premise of fragmented RAM. I use it whenever I please, even when Arma is running, between scenarios, etc. BTW, I run it right after Arma is loaded and the launcher closes and has released it's memory back to the system. MO fills the holes, so to speak.
Wise never promised nuthin. What the program does is de-fragment your RAM. Each program has memory assigned (allocated) to it that it, and only it, can use. This allocated memory can become chopped up into small segments over time, sometimes too small to use so when a program needs a block of memory for some more data it cannot find a chunk big enough to continue. Or it could oversteps its bounds if poorly coded and that causes all sorts of malfunctions, (0xc0000005 errors for example).
Snake oil? Do I have the fundamental understanding that the RAM can get fragmented? Does this indeed cause malfunction? If the RAM is kept tidy, is there less of a chance of this happening? I say yes.
I wish MO showed graphically how fragged the RAM actually is and what it looks like after instead of that dumb circly thingo. Maybe there are tools out there that can. I will look into it.

[J. Elkroc]

Alrighty then. It took about 30 min to do a test using MO in various stages of Arma3 play.
I took data and pictures of before and after for these steps:
Step: Free RAM
1) Fresh reboot 5,602,424
2) Steam/Arma3 Launcher loaded 4,381,076
3) Optimized after Steam/Launcher 4,421,204
4) Vanilla Arma 3 loaded on a LAN server on Tanoa 1,862,916
4) Optimized after Arma 3 loaded 2,960,760 (!)
5) Arma 3 unloaded (Steam still in memory) 3,789,860

This was not a scientific experiment by any means but it shows that the tool does work. Error is introduced by use of Paint and MO itself, opening and closing them at each stage may affect the results a bit. Plus I doubt the RAM explorer tool is the choice of professional developers, but it seemed to report what I wanted so I used it. BTW I used these tools for this test: Sysinternals RamMap, WIndows Paint for pix, Memory Optimizer.

I only have 8GB RAM so memory use is important to me too. I have confidence that this tool will only help you. Step 4 above is a pretty good indicator. I don't think anyone will disagree that free RAM is a good thing. YMMV

I found a tool that I will use at work as well, I'm so glad I spent some time on this. Thanks for listening.

[J. Elkroc]

One more note. I also follow advice I found on Black Viper's website for trimming down my background tasks. I have to be careful because this is an old PC and it is overclocked. So stability was also a major concern. I don't know how far you can go with your system, you may have other uses for it. My PC is a gaming/surfing machine. Check it out for yourself. http://www.blackviper.com/

[Aeumcp]

How do i access Memory Optimizer

[Mirudes]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Aeumcp:

How do i access Memory Optimizer

Wise Memory Optimizer (Freeware, portable)
3rd party tool, Company Name is 'Wise'

[Mirudes]

More or less the same topic from the same threadstarter:

What is the best Ram Optimizer for Arma 3?
http://steamcommunity.com/app/107410/discussions/0/2217311444325065080/

8 Gigs are to less for ArmA3.

On the long run it is better to spend some money and pay for a 2nd bar of 8Gigs.
Even better is 16 Gigs of fast RAM, because ArmA loves high frequencies.

If you still have money left:
An SSD (F.e. SAMSUNG Evo 250GB) can upgrade any computer and laptop for small money.

[J. Elkroc]

On the SSD, make sure your motherboard supports 6GB/s SATA 3 and the SDD is also 6GB/s. There are a lot of 3GB/s drives out there for cheap. Trust me, I have my OS on an Intel SSD which sounded great when I bought it, but I later found that it is only 3GB/s. Arma 3, however, is on an OCZ 6GB/s drive. I just wish my OS was so it would boot faster yet.