Best Assault Rifle???

[R4YN4R]

I use the MX 6,5mm but i dont know if its the best

[R9]

katiba is better

[Sgt Smash]

Spar-17

[Sgt Smash]

Originally posted by Battleye:

katiba is better

Better for noobs :-P

[GOTOPOST]

Originally posted by PastyRasta:

I use the MX 6,5mm but i dont know if its the best

The Ak-12 is the best assult rifle in the game, the Akm comes out at second place.

[R9]

Originally posted by Fakieonpcin1440p:

Originally posted by Battleye:

katiba is better

Better for noobs :-P

that's what she said

[IGeter]

ak12

[Disgruntled Cuttlefish]

OP, which caliber, or closely related calibers? TBH I think it's kind of dumb to just say which is the best assault rifle but not specify that.

My view, but keep in mind appearance may be a factor:
7.62x51/similar eastern calibers (battle rifle I guess): "Mk18 ABR" heavier option, "Mk14" lighter option (apparently according to Arma)
6.5: MX. You can be a considerable headache with one and a (decent magnification) optic, suppressor, and bipod kind of easily out to 900m or so if you know how. In a lot of the ranges where you shoot others at, 6.5 is still quite good vs a 7.62x51/ect. And then if you need to go up closer it will be way better and higher ammo capacity. In Arma they should pronounce all of that more though so people feel the need to use lighter weight weapons more often more realistically than how it seems, right.
5.56/similar eastern calibers: "SPAR-16"

For that matter, forget everything else I stated here also. Just, yeah some guns I never had even used or picked up ever because I hate how they look, like the AK-12. I don't mind most of the guns though.

[Kozak]

The primary difference is available optics and overall appearance. A gun is a gun is a gun, and you can pretty readily kill somebody with one, regardless of what it is. The larger the caliber, the better suited for long range, though, so in that sense, it depends somewhat on your intended usage.

[El Berl]

I have to agree with Squid here. While the AK-12 is the best on paper, it suffers at intermediate ranges of 300-500 meters compared to higher velocity 5.56x45mm and 6.5x39mm. For longer ranges you want a 7.62x51mm while at shorter ranges you want the AK-12, SPAR-16, or MX / Katiba. 6.5x39mm can strech out to somewhat further than 5.56x45mm can but at the expense of additional recoil.

Don't discount the higher-caliber 9.3x64mm and .338 LM rifles either. The ability to readily one-shot someone at 500 meters should not ever be discounted. Body armor like the Carrier Special is strong and the Cyrus is up to the task of beating it.

[Scaredy Cat]

Originally posted by V. Berlioz:

I have to agree with Squid here. While the AK-12 is the best on paper, it suffers at intermediate ranges of 300-500 meters compared to higher velocity 5.56x45mm and 6.5x39mm. For longer ranges you want a 7.62x51mm while at shorter ranges you want the AK-12, SPAR-16, or MX / Katiba. 6.5x39mm can strech out to somewhat further than 5.56x45mm can but at the expense of additional recoil.

Don't discount the higher-caliber 9.3x64mm and .338 LM rifles either. The ability to readily one-shot someone at 500 meters should not ever be discounted. Body armor like the Carrier Special is strong and the Cyrus is up to the task of beating it.

The Cyrus and Mar-10 excel in mid to mid-long range engagements, that is true. However, they are DMR's, and he asked for assault rifles.

[El Berl]

Originally posted by Scaredy Cat:

Originally posted by V. Berlioz:

I have to agree with Squid here. While the AK-12 is the best on paper, it suffers at intermediate ranges of 300-500 meters compared to higher velocity 5.56x45mm and 6.5x39mm. For longer ranges you want a 7.62x51mm while at shorter ranges you want the AK-12, SPAR-16, or MX / Katiba. 6.5x39mm can strech out to somewhat further than 5.56x45mm can but at the expense of additional recoil.

Don't discount the higher-caliber 9.3x64mm and .338 LM rifles either. The ability to readily one-shot someone at 500 meters should not ever be discounted. Body armor like the Carrier Special is strong and the Cyrus is up to the task of beating it.

The Cyrus and Mar-10 excel in mid to mid-long range engagements, that is true. However, they are DMR's, and he asked for assault rifles.

It's plainly obvious that they are DMRs and that he wants an AR, but the state of the game makes these DMRs perfectly viable options. Who knows, the DMR might be the better class of weapon for him.

[Scaredy Cat]

Originally posted by V. Berlioz:

Originally posted by Scaredy Cat:

The Cyrus and Mar-10 excel in mid to mid-long range engagements, that is true. However, they are DMR's, and he asked for assault rifles.

It's plainly obvious that they are DMRs and that he wants an AR, but the state of the game makes these DMRs perfectly viable options. Who knows, the DMR might be the better class of weapon for him.

I never said they werent viable. Hell, the Cyrus is probably my favourite weapon in the game.
Its just that they fill a different roll than assault rifles, and considering he asked for assault rifles, one would assume he is looking for something that excels in that role. Namely, close to mid range combat.
You can use the DMR's in close combat, of course, but the lower firerate an higher recoil will make it significantly harder.

[El Berl]

Originally posted by Scaredy Cat:

Originally posted by V. Berlioz:

It's plainly obvious that they are DMRs and that he wants an AR, but the state of the game makes these DMRs perfectly viable options. Who knows, the DMR might be the better class of weapon for him.

I never said they werent viable. Hell, the Cyrus is probably my favourite weapon in the game.
Its just that they fill a different roll than assault rifles, and considering he asked for assault rifles, one would assume he is looking for something that excels in that role. Namely, close to mid range combat.
You can use the DMR's in close combat, of course, but the lower firerate an higher recoil will make it significantly harder.

Factor in time-to-kill if it takes one shot to kill a guy with a Cyrus and 4-5 shots to kill the same guy with a Mk20. I rest my case. Headshots aren't always going to happen so you best have the firepower to perform an adequately fast and reliable kill. In that case, unless you are a TERRIBLE shot, the Cyrus is superior to the SPAR-16 for CQC.

The Cyrus is merely heavier and a bulkier rifle. The additional length of the weapon only results in a longer time to aim-down-the-sight, but that can be compensated for due to the accuracy of a shoulder-fired shot when the shooter is only performing a slow walk.

My point being that DMRs, thanks to game mechanics, are still perfectly viable for close-to-mid range combat. Body armor and time-to-kill are things you're seemingly not considering my friend, so it is wise for OP to consider those factors. Why else would the KOTH meta be anything BUT a Navid 9.3x64mm? It's all about that time-to-kill up until a certain point that is typically found well past 9.3x64mm and .338 LM. .408 and .50 rifles are impractical becaue of their bulk, but the relatively lesser mass of the DMRs is much more tolerable for a trained player.

[Scaredy Cat]

Originally posted by V. Berlioz:

Originally posted by Scaredy Cat:

I never said they werent viable. Hell, the Cyrus is probably my favourite weapon in the game.
Its just that they fill a different roll than assault rifles, and considering he asked for assault rifles, one would assume he is looking for something that excels in that role. Namely, close to mid range combat.
You can use the DMR's in close combat, of course, but the lower firerate an higher recoil will make it significantly harder.

Factor in time-to-kill if it takes one shot to kill a guy with a Cyrus and 4-5 shots to kill the same guy with a Mk20. I rest my case. Headshots aren't always going to happen so you best have the firepower to perform an adequately fast and reliable kill. In that case, unless you are a TERRIBLE shot, the Cyrus is superior to the SPAR-16 for CQC.

The Cyrus is merely heavier and a bulkier rifle. The additional length of the weapon only results in a longer time to aim-down-the-sight, but that can be compensated for due to the accuracy of a shoulder-fired shot when the shooter is only performing a slow walk.

My point being that DMRs, thanks to game mechanics, are still perfectly viable for close-to-mid range combat. Body armor and time-to-kill are things you're seemingly not considering my friend, so it is wise for OP to consider those factors. Why else would the KOTH meta be anything BUT a Navid 9.3x64mm? It's all about that time-to-kill up until a certain point that is typically found well past 9.3x64mm and .338 LM. .408 and .50 rifles are impractical becaue of their bulk, but the relatively lesser mass of the DMRs is much more tolerable for a trained player.

I am not forgetting about that. Its more that you seem to overestimate them in cqc. Yes, they will drop someone in one shot, but if you miss youre dead. This will happen every now and then to even the most experienced of shooters. Miss the first shot, and the recoil and rirerate will make it very difficult to follow up.
The Navid is seen a lot in cqc. Simple reason being, it takes away the downside of the dmr. It hits about as hard, but has a significantly higher firerate and a box mag. The recoil is high, but point firing is a lot more effective than it is with dmr's because you put a lot more lead downrange.
Coming back to assault rifles. A 6.5mm round will drop even someone in a special rig in 2-3 shots. Combine this with a high rof and managable recoil and you have weapons that are far more consistent than the dmr's in cqc.

One last thing. I dont recall the guy mention that he just plays koth. I am merely giving some advice for weapons in general.
The navid is indeed the best weapon for koth, and a big reason for that is that there is a lot of close quarters.
But there are far more gamemodes out there. Gamemodes that in my opinion are a hell of a lot better than mindless koth.

[El Berl]

Originally posted by Scaredy Cat:

Originally posted by V. Berlioz:

Factor in time-to-kill if it takes one shot to kill a guy with a Cyrus and 4-5 shots to kill the same guy with a Mk20. I rest my case. Headshots aren't always going to happen so you best have the firepower to perform an adequately fast and reliable kill. In that case, unless you are a TERRIBLE shot, the Cyrus is superior to the SPAR-16 for CQC.

The Cyrus is merely heavier and a bulkier rifle. The additional length of the weapon only results in a longer time to aim-down-the-sight, but that can be compensated for due to the accuracy of a shoulder-fired shot when the shooter is only performing a slow walk.

My point being that DMRs, thanks to game mechanics, are still perfectly viable for close-to-mid range combat. Body armor and time-to-kill are things you're seemingly not considering my friend, so it is wise for OP to consider those factors. Why else would the KOTH meta be anything BUT a Navid 9.3x64mm? It's all about that time-to-kill up until a certain point that is typically found well past 9.3x64mm and .338 LM. .408 and .50 rifles are impractical becaue of their bulk, but the relatively lesser mass of the DMRs is much more tolerable for a trained player.

I am not forgetting about that. Its more that you seem to overestimate them in cqc. Yes, they will drop someone in one shot, but if you miss youre dead. This will happen every now and then to even the most experienced of shooters. Miss the first shot, and the recoil and rirerate will make it very difficult to follow up.
The Navid is seen a lot in cqc. Simple reason being, it takes away the downside of the dmr. It hits about as hard, but has a significantly higher firerate and a box mag. The recoil is high, but point firing is a lot more effective than it is with dmr's because you put a lot more lead downrange.
Coming back to assault rifles. A 6.5mm round will drop even someone in a special rig in 2-3 shots. Combine this with a high rof and managable recoil and you have weapons that are far more consistent than the dmr's in cqc.

One last thing. I dont recall the guy mention that he just plays koth. I am merely giving some advice for weapons in general.
The navid is indeed the best weapon for koth, and a big reason for that is that there is a lot of close quarters.
But there are far more gamemodes out there. Gamemodes that in my opinion are a hell of a lot better than mindless koth.

Of course I agree KOTH is mindless, but you're again forgetting the virtue of an easy one-shot-stop in every situation. A superior player with a weapon capable of a single-shot-kill will always be at the advantage if he adequately makes use of low rests and walls to stabilize his weapon. The Cyrus has very low recoil for how hard it hits. I mean, really. Use what mechanics BI gives you and you're not boned even if you miss. The resting of the Cyrus will heavily reduce its recoil and sway to the point where it's capable even with fatigue. That's a fact and a fact that ought to be considered heavily.

Everyone misses once in a while. The best know that they can miss and thus use tactics to protect themselves for when they do fumble. Use weapon resting and deployment.

What bones you is not the gun, but the tactics. A good player can work things out with a 6.5x39mm but if you miss with one you're very likely dead too. Vietnam-era hit probability metrics fell out of favor a while ago. A bad player is screwed with a 6.5x39mm or a 9.3x64mm either way. Also, remember that a gun in someone's hands can stop a 6.5x39mm. It does not reliably stop a 9.3x64mm as well under real-world variable conditions. I'll admit, the 6.5x39mm works but the 9.3x64mm is more rewarding of operator competency. If OP wants to hone his accuracy, he'll find the Cyrus will work with him a lot more.

Maybe this is because of my realism-honed background, but I've always had more faith in potent single shots over rapid weak shots. Learn to aim and the single shot will keep you safe and sound.

Oh, and one last thing. The Cyrus, unlike the MX or Katiba, is very effective against vehicles. Depending on OP's situation, he may find the wallbanging-capable and tire-busting 9.3x64mm more his speed. More than anything, the 9.3x64mm has the edge out past 300 meters if OP can aim.