Arma 3
Lim Jahey 10 października 2017 o 8:46
AMD FX 6300
I'm about to buy an AMD FX6300 CPU, MSI 970 GAMING MOBO, and 16GB of RAM. Will this be substantial to run Arma decently on most servers? I'm not expecting 100+ FPS with with, but a reasonable 30-40 consistently
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Lim Jahey 10 października 2017 o 9:30 
I'm currently running a Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q6600 @ 2.40GHz 2.45GHz. Its gonna run better than what it is now wouldn't it? I'm getting a deal with that CPU, MSI 970 MOBO, and the 16GB of RAM for about $200. I eventually want to upgrade to a Ryzen 7 1800X but figured for $200 it would be worth it for a while
Yannick|i7 10 października 2017 o 10:01 
This step in between isn't sensible.
The FX CPUs are that cheap as retailers want to get rid of remaining stock which also means that the resale value is quite low.
And keeping in mind that the jump in performance isn't gonna be that great, you should rather buy an up-to-date system now or wait a little longer until you can afford it.

Or if you really need better performance now, you can ...
a) get a B350/X370 mainboard with an R3 1200 or better + DDR4 RAM
b) a B250 mainboard with a Pentium G4560 + DDR4 RAM
...to later upgrade to a better CPU (in case of Intel, a Z370 mainboard too) and more RAM if you decide to go with say 8 GB for now.

Because the thing is, you can't keep any of the stuff from the FX combo, not the mainboard nor the RAM, so that money is "wasted". Thus,, investing in one of the combos mentioned above is better for the long term.

Kind Regards,
Yannick
Ostatnio edytowany przez: Yannick|i7; 10 października 2017 o 10:03
Lim Jahey 10 października 2017 o 10:33 
Oh ok. Thanks for the input man. Might as well just wait for black Friday deals then
Sandborne 10 października 2017 o 16:15 
I have an fx4300 and singleplayer is perfect with mods and multiplayer servers not so much unless its invade and annex i run that at 30-45fps with 70 people on it
Lim Jahey 11 października 2017 o 10:51 
What about this? The guy who I talked to about buying these parts from his old rig said he would take $460 for these "AMD Ryzen 7 1800X Processor (8 core hyperthreaded) and 32gb of hyper furry ddr4 ram. Never been overclocked but it is capable. Asus mother board with LED lights". Would that run this game good?
Yannick|i7 11 października 2017 o 12:44 
So $460 for a 1800x, 32 Gigs of Ram and a mainboard ? That‘s a great value if nothing‘s broken.
Lim Jahey 11 października 2017 o 14:27 
Yea, I wanted to get it but my GTX 680 won't be able to handle it
Yannick|i7 11 października 2017 o 14:32 
What? No, that’s the wrong approach.
I got a 770 4GB Paris with a 2012 i7 and also had a 660ti 2GB before and all I can say is that I played on “high” before and now on “ultra” thanks to more VRAM, but that’s still fine.
Forget the idea of bottlenecking, especially in Arma.
Lim Jahey 11 października 2017 o 16:57 
So there wouldn't be any bottlenecking as far as Arma 3 is concerned?
Yannick|i7 11 października 2017 o 23:23 
Not on “high” settings. But the whole concept of bottlenecking isn’t that sensible.
People are actually afraid of it and buy weaker CPUs/ GPUs because of it.
But many people also update their PCs in stages, so one time you’re gonna have a “stronger” CPU and one time you’re gonna have a “stronger” GPU. It‘s just that CPUs are usually not the limiting part (Arma is a bad example for that tho) and with a 1800x you got a great base for the future.
So when you get a new GPU next year maybe, you had an ideal system.

What you should also know maybe is that Arma uses only up to 40% of the processing power of my 5yo i7 anyways, even without GPU bottlenecking, so there‘s that.

Just please don’t mess up your future PC by declining that offer, you wouldn’t even get anything close to that performance in that price range anyways.
Ostatnio edytowany przez: Yannick|i7; 11 października 2017 o 23:24
wavinautomaticguns@nuns 12 października 2017 o 0:08 
game runs good at 1920x1080 on 2gb of vram (a 760) with 130 percent sampling and everything ultra, more than 50 average.

I would suggest you purchase a 4350 instead as Arma will make much better use of it, I am currently using one of those now and it's not too bad although it struggles if you want to have large singleplayer battles with a lot of AI, this can pretty easily be circumvented by playing on a dedicated server.
Lim Jahey 12 października 2017 o 0:19 
Yea, I don't wanna miss this offer. That CPU brand new is $400, and about the same for the amount of RAM. I'm not that knowledgeable about PC's, what exactly is "bottlenecking"? I'm assuming it's just a type of frame rate lag in a sense right?
Yannick|i7 12 października 2017 o 2:42 
For example: your GPU is too weak to process images in the speed that your CPU is processing geometry or what else. As a result, your CPU is not demanded its full potential as the GPU can’t keep up processing and displaying images.
So in this case, the GPU is the bottleneck.

Now I’m saying that it’s not that much of an issue as the imbalance isn’t that bad in your case and it’s not worth declining that offer just cause you might get more CPU load if you had a faster GPU.

In an ideal case, a game would stress GPU and CPU to 100% so that the highest amount of FPS can be achieved, but that’s not the case anyways.
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