Arma 3
Snafu Aug 22, 2017 @ 4:35pm
Why didn't BI give us 2 seater jets?
Just why? We have at least 2 seats for every vehicle except for any jet.
Now that jets DLC has been polished, we can be sure that we aren't getting this feature.
It would have been so much fun, so why didn't we get it?
Last edited by Snafu; Aug 22, 2017 @ 4:35pm
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Fent Fiend Aug 22, 2017 @ 6:49pm 
Originally posted by Corgi:
Just why? We have at least 2 seats for every vehicle except for any jet.
Now that jets DLC has been polished, we can be sure that we aren't getting this feature.
It would have been so much fun, so why didn't we get it?
BI is fishing for more $$$$$ .. from DLC,s
SimoneORdeltaPRO Aug 22, 2017 @ 8:36pm 
thats why there is a workshop and armaholic
Speedbump Aug 23, 2017 @ 3:30am 
Originally posted by Corgi:
Just why? We have at least 2 seats for every vehicle except for any jet.
Now that jets DLC has been polished, we can be sure that we aren't getting this feature.
It would have been so much fun, so why didn't we get it?
Not sure.

Originally posted by =VG= kiwirambob/killabot:
BI is fishing for more $$$$$ .. from DLC,s
I know, I hate it when businesses whos purpose is to make money, try to make money. Horrible.
OgGiUs Aug 23, 2017 @ 4:36am 
+1
JEDI Aug 23, 2017 @ 5:15am 
they cant even be bothrered to put a weapon service menu in for the jets so we can chose our own loadouts in game instead of using an "editor",whoever thought that was a good plan should be fired out of principle.which by the way is a really ♥♥♥♥♥♥ ♥♥♥♥ idea to start with..but hey so long as they get your money and do a runner its not there problem..leave the community build a game they arent getting paid to work on.♥♥♥♥ you B.I. FINNISH THE JET DLC BEFORE THINKING OF WAYS TO ROB EVEN MORE MONEY FROM YOUR FAN BASE.IN FACT ,ACTUALLY SWITCH ON YOUR COMPUTERS AND DO SOME ♥♥♥♥♥♥ WORK.
Speedbump Aug 23, 2017 @ 5:21am 
^ It's their game, if they do something it's for a reason.
Nobody is "doing a runner".
They HAVE finished the Jets DLC.
They are not robbing anyone.
They do do work. Lots of it. Constantly. I'm sure they're very skilled in switching their computers on too.
Last edited by Speedbump; Aug 23, 2017 @ 5:21am
Bob of Mage Aug 23, 2017 @ 9:41am 
Well what type of jets have two seats, and what route does the person in the second seat fill? As far as I am aware two seater jets tend to have the second person working some sort of air-to-ground weapons systems. They deal with setting the weapons up while the pilot does the flying, sort of like attack helis. The attack jets ingame are meant for CAS, and don't feature the more complex systems that would require a second person.

I would also point out that to add two seater jets, would not remove the need to add fighter jets, and thus would lead to the need for at least 6 new aircraft instead of just 3. There would also be the need to code the more complex sensor systems such attack jets would require, aswell as over haul the weapons systems for jets.
Not necessary because everything is simplified enough as it is, it would be fun to be able take people flying with you and would make you much more dangerous with a good ewo

The second seat is for the person dealing with most of the electronics. Most of the time this person is looking at a radar and relaying the information back to the pilot, they have the ability to fire on air targets if the pilot is busy flying. Not to forget the ecm pod needs to be adjusted depending on whats coming your way.
Snafu Aug 23, 2017 @ 4:03pm 
Originally posted by Bob of Mage:
Well what type of jets have two seats, and what route does the person in the second seat fill? As far as I am aware two seater jets tend to have the second person working some sort of air-to-ground weapons systems. They deal with setting the weapons up while the pilot does the flying, sort of like attack helis. The attack jets ingame are meant for CAS, and don't feature the more complex systems that would require a second person.

I would also point out that to add two seater jets, would not remove the need to add fighter jets, and thus would lead to the need for at least 6 new aircraft instead of just 3. There would also be the need to code the more complex sensor systems such attack jets would require, aswell as over haul the weapons systems for jets.


Originally posted by wavinautomaticguns@nuns:
Not necessary because everything is simplified enough as it is, it would be fun to be able take people flying with you and would make you much more dangerous with a good ewo

The second seat is for the person dealing with most of the electronics. Most of the time this person is looking at a radar and relaying the information back to the pilot, they have the ability to fire on air targets if the pilot is busy flying. Not to forget the ecm pod needs to be adjusted depending on whats coming your way.

You two gave awesome feedback, yet it made me long for two seaters even more! Being a collective of 2 instead of a lonely "hero" pilot is just so much more intriguing in a game like ArmA, where cooperativity wins the game. 1 or 2 unskilled and/or unexperienced crewmembers will lose the fight, yet an experienced, communicating duo will win the game.
AriDeer Aug 23, 2017 @ 5:06pm 
Many new aircraft designs are going back to one seaters, and as stated the second person is normally a logistics operator then arma 2s "gunner seat" one of the planes had.

T-50, f-35, j-20, etc.

This is a game balancing real protypes with logical upgrades to existing gear, your not going to see two-seater.
Last edited by AriDeer; Aug 23, 2017 @ 5:07pm
Xoho Aug 23, 2017 @ 5:43pm 
Have you seen how laggy it can be in helicopters? The faster you move the laggier it is it seems. Jets would be unusable in multiplayer servers.
JEDI Oct 2, 2017 @ 1:33pm 
and now we are still waiting for a weapon loadout system/menu for aircraft,suprise suprise....its all good giving thousands of guns and ♥♥♥♥ to infantry players/but if your wanting to switch out your weapons on the fly while your in the actual game,you can think again,LIKE I SAID BEFORE.....A HALF BUILT GAME...I BOUGHT ALL THEIR DLC'S EXPECTING BIGGER AND BETTER THINGS(AND SOME COMMON SENSE ON B I'S PART)..LEAVE THE COMMUNITY BUILD THE REST OF THE GAME,WEVE GOT ALL THE MONEY ,NOW WE DONT HAVE TO BOTHER ADDING THINGS THAT WOULD ACTUALLY BE POSSIBLE IN A REAL MILITARY AIR/BASE.LIKE PUTTING WHATEVER WEAPONS YOU LIKE ON YOUR AIRCRAFT,INSTEAD OF USING THE SAME OLD ♥♥♥♥ OVER AND OVER AND OVER,WHAT WAS THE POINT IN WEAPON LOADOUTS IN EDEN EDITOR,,,HALF BUILT GAME, BIGGEST WASTE OF MY MONEY EVER.??????QUIT THE GAME GO INTO EDITOR SWITCH WEAPONS ON PYLONS START GAME AGAIN FIND THAT YOU DONT NEED THEM WEAPONS RIGHT THEN BUT STILL NO WAY OF SERVICING ON THE GAME.......BAG OF ♥♥♥♥ HALF BUILT AND LEFT FOR THE COMMUNITY TO PUT RIGHT,WHILE BI ARE MAKING ANOTHER PIECE OF ♥♥♥♥ DLC (THATS PROBABLY GOING TO BE HALF BUILT ASWELL)SO THEY CAN RAPE YOU FOR EVERY PENNY THEY CAN GET....IM DONE SUCK MY ♥♥♥♥ BI.
:steamsalty:
Speedbump Oct 2, 2017 @ 5:20pm 
Suck yor own ♥♥♥♥ Jedi jesus christ man.
Sandborne Oct 2, 2017 @ 6:00pm 
f14 tomcat
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