Arma 3
JU1CE Jan 24, 2017 @ 12:45pm
Great Specs Horrible FPS multiplayer. What's wrong?
Specs are
Intel quad core i7 6700k 4.1 GHz CPU
Nvidia GTX 1080 Graphics card
32 Gb DDR4 RAM
650W PSU
240 Gb SSD + 2TB HDD (arma is installed on the hard drive not ssd)

Brand new rig and I want to know if my GPU is a "lemon" or something is bottlenecking my computer, or perhaps if you have an idea for something else that could be wrong please let me know. In game FPS is ultra settings 30-44 on 1080p resolution screen. Never can get above 50 FPS in KOTH (king of the hill). is this just KOTH or multiplayer in general and arma in general? is this reasonable or is something wrong should my specs be getting better performance? idk if it matters but I'll note that my screen is a professional workstation/design screen so it has better color accuracy than gaming or other screens and it is a 60hz monitor. Did I just get unlucky with poorly manufactured specs/parts?

Please let me know what you think.
Thanks.

(ps. looking for cool/serious arma 3 koth buddies to play with sometimes. I'm new to steam and arma 3 so I don't have any friends to play online and my real life friends don't game) <<<NERDS


< >
Showing 1-15 of 22 comments
bullets Jan 24, 2017 @ 1:05pm 
Your FPS is tied to server FPS so no matter how good your pc is you will always be limited :\, also 50fps on KOTH is crazy lool im stuck at 30-40 here :P
Reckless Jan 24, 2017 @ 1:11pm 
What's wrong? What is wrong is youo don't know how to search, this topic comes up at least twice a day.
Out2SmokeU Jan 24, 2017 @ 1:13pm 
It's the engine they are using, it's horrible, one of the worst engines to date.
JU1CE Jan 24, 2017 @ 1:27pm 
Originally posted by Iaoa:
Your FPS is tied to server FPS so no matter how good your pc is you will always be limited :\, also 50fps on KOTH is crazy lool im stuck at 30-40 here :P

I'm usually playing on Hostile Takeover's or Code4gaming's KOTH servers so idk how to check their Server FPS. Thanks for replying back to me. I am worried because I've chatted with some people in game who had exact same specs as me and were getting 60 FPS locks on ultra settings. I don't know if they were bs'ing or if they were pc experts and knew how to optimize settings for amazing performance AND quality. I'm just worried my gtx 1080 is a "lemon" or "bust" or if maybe I have my nvidia settings are set up poorly. Thanks for reply. Yeah i'm getting 50 fps on the best days. Mostly it's 35-42 average. On some servers worst I had was constant 30fps and had big FPS drop while engaging enemy.
JU1CE Jan 24, 2017 @ 1:36pm 
Originally posted by XIIIOut2SmokeU:
It's the engine they are using, it's horrible, one of the worst engines to date.

Is the 64 bit version suppose to fix these issues have you read up on it at all? I've read some things but I haven't come across anything with specfics on what the update will adress. Isn't Arma 3 from an eastern european country? some countries there don't have access to 64 bit technology until lately actually and were either illegal to buy, not sold, or way to expensive so they only used 32 bit. Hopefully the 64 bit will fix some issues. I'm just wondering how I came across some people on KOTH that had 60 FPS locks during gameplay with my exact specs and I didn't while in game we had same settings set to ultra. Made me think my parts were bad.
Fishercat Jan 24, 2017 @ 1:52pm 
Search is a cool new forum feature
Out2SmokeU Jan 24, 2017 @ 2:17pm 
Originally posted by Mugen_The_Infinite:
Originally posted by XIIIOut2SmokeU:
It's the engine they are using, it's horrible, one of the worst engines to date.

Is the 64 bit version suppose to fix these issues have you read up on it at all? I've read some things but I haven't come across anything with specfics on what the update will adress. Isn't Arma 3 from an eastern european country? some countries there don't have access to 64 bit technology until lately actually and were either illegal to buy, not sold, or way to expensive so they only used 32 bit. Hopefully the 64 bit will fix some issues. I'm just wondering how I came across some people on KOTH that had 60 FPS locks during gameplay with my exact specs and I didn't while in game we had same settings set to ultra. Made me think my parts were bad.
64 bit doesnt make a big difference, maybe a very little, but really don't think it's your parts because if anything was defected it wouldn't work at all. Maybe they have somethings overclocked, or maybe something is slightly different. Maybe they have it on a ssd or something. Oh have to remember too, that if they have another brand of a 1080 they are all clocked differently.
Last edited by Out2SmokeU; Jan 24, 2017 @ 2:18pm
JU1CE Jan 24, 2017 @ 2:21pm 
Originally posted by Fishercat:
Search is a cool new forum feature

I didn't find anything that says brand new gtx 1080 and newest CPU at the time are having FPS issues of 30 FPS. I had a specfic issue and got into detail about it so I don't think I'd get the reply that could help me from else where.
I think this is mainly dependent on what server you are choosing. Yea it's true there is a server fps which is capped at around 50-60 fps but there is also client fps which I've noticed can actually run higher than the server fps . So I don't think it's entirely reasonable to assume that a clients fps is entirely constrained by the server fps, though the server you play on does seem to play a role in the performance you're getting on your end. There really isn't much you can adjust in the in-game video settings to make much of a difference. Adjusting maxframesahead to 1 and setting up the Arma 3 Launcher parameters correctly seems to help stability and fps slightly. Make sure you set your Cpu count, extra threads, hyper-threading, system and video memory limits appropriately. Unfortuantely the sim is limited to the windows x86 memory limit so for now you can only utilize up to 2047 MB of system memory but that is changing pretty soon. A lot of people have been waiting for the 64 bit for a long time including myself. So far It has proven on my machine to make the sim run smoother with a higher view distance but nothing too significant as far as fps is concerned. Oh and theres another thing, you need to watch your view distances. You can gain a few fps by lowering it to a modest setting. As far as the memory allocator is concerned your best bet is either the Intel TBB 4 allocator or the Windows Allocator. In general the stratis servers I tend to get higher fps on so you might start there. The best servers for me have been NASTYNAK and WS.ARMA.SU. I just want to say you're right though, it is a bit rediculous to have the latest and greatest and not have the most pleasant experience you can get. In the support forum there is a thread full of thousands of people complaining about the fps being low on high performance gaming machines.
Last edited by DiahreaBurritowithFireSauce; Jan 24, 2017 @ 3:33pm
Sgt_Ham Jan 24, 2017 @ 3:31pm 
Originally posted by Cheesewilly:
I think this is mainly dependent on what server you are choosing. Yea it's true there is a server fps which is capped at around 50-60 fps but there is also client fps which I've noticed can actually run higher than the server fps . So I don't think it's entirely reasonable to assume that a clients fps is entirely constrained by the server fps, though the server you play on does seem to play a role in the performance you're getting on your end. There really isn't much you can adjust in the in-game video settings to make much of a difference. Adjusting maxframesahead to 1 and setting up the Arma 3 Launcher parameters correctly seems to help stability and fps slightly. Make sure you set your Cpu count, extra threads, hyper-threading, system and video memory limits appropriately. Unfortuantely the sim is limited to the windows x86 memory limit so for now you can only utilize up to 2047 MB of system memory but that is changing pretty soon. A lot of people have been waiting for the 64 bit for a long time including myself. So far It has proven on my machine to make the sim run smoother with a higher view distance but nothing too significant as far as fps is concerned. Oh and theres another thing, you need to watch your view distances. You can gain a few fps by lowering it to a modest setting. As far as the memory allocator is concerned your best bet is either the Intel TBB 4 allocator or the Windows Allocator. In general the stratis servers I tend to get higher fps on so you might start there. The best servers for me have been NASTYNAK and WS.ARMA.SU

You cannot have higher frames than the server, only lower. If you have good fps in SP and drops in MP it is bc you are choking your CPU hosting and playing. With a dedicated server this isnt an issue and the FPS you experience is based on the performance of your machine.
CrazyEye Jan 24, 2017 @ 3:36pm 
I have a 5820k OCed to 4.6 ghz and gtx 1080, and i get around 50 fps average but with drops to 30, but i also play in 1440p, its the game not your hardware, raiseing or lowering your settings wont make much of differance in arma3, the biggest fps increase i got in arma was from my cpu overclock.
Originally posted by Sgt_Ham:
Originally posted by Cheesewilly:
I think this is mainly dependent on what server you are choosing. Yea it's true there is a server fps which is capped at around 50-60 fps but there is also client fps which I've noticed can actually run higher than the server fps . So I don't think it's entirely reasonable to assume that a clients fps is entirely constrained by the server fps, though the server you play on does seem to play a role in the performance you're getting on your end. There really isn't much you can adjust in the in-game video settings to make much of a difference. Adjusting maxframesahead to 1 and setting up the Arma 3 Launcher parameters correctly seems to help stability and fps slightly. Make sure you set your Cpu count, extra threads, hyper-threading, system and video memory limits appropriately. Unfortuantely the sim is limited to the windows x86 memory limit so for now you can only utilize up to 2047 MB of system memory but that is changing pretty soon. A lot of people have been waiting for the 64 bit for a long time including myself. So far It has proven on my machine to make the sim run smoother with a higher view distance but nothing too significant as far as fps is concerned. Oh and theres another thing, you need to watch your view distances. You can gain a few fps by lowering it to a modest setting. As far as the memory allocator is concerned your best bet is either the Intel TBB 4 allocator or the Windows Allocator. In general the stratis servers I tend to get higher fps on so you might start there. The best servers for me have been NASTYNAK and WS.ARMA.SU

You cannot have higher frames than the server, only lower. If you have good fps in SP and drops in MP it is bc you are choking your CPU hosting and playing. With a dedicated server this isnt an issue and the FPS you experience is based on the performance of your machine.

I don't think we are talking about hosting anything. Just talking about playing on the plethora of multiplayer servers in general. I don't play any of the servers Bohemia may provide since they're generally only the basic meat and potatoes of the game with no mods. And I'm not talking about local hosting or the 5-15 player coop servers people host from their machines.
Last edited by DiahreaBurritowithFireSauce; Jan 24, 2017 @ 3:48pm
Originally posted by CrazyEye:
I have a 5820k OCed to 4.6 ghz and gtx 1080, and i get around 50 fps average but with drops to 30, but i also play in 1440p, its the game not your hardware, raiseing or lowering your settings wont make much of differance in arma3, the biggest fps increase i got in arma was from my cpu overclock.

I'm running 6600k overclocked to 4.4 with a 7870. I get around the same fps. 30 for the low, about 40-45 for the average, and 60-80 in rare circumstances. This is on a 144hz 1080p monitor.
Viperxoc Jan 24, 2017 @ 4:07pm 
Originally posted by XIIIOut2SmokeU:
It's the engine they are using, it's horrible, one of the worst engines to date.

You don't have any idea what you are talking about. I have simular specs to the OP and on single player I can easily hit over 60FPS with everything maxed out. The multi-player servers limit your FPS as they can only send the information as fast as the connection and the server computer.
Volsini Jan 24, 2017 @ 4:13pm 
Originally posted by Mugen_The_Infinite:
Specs are
Intel quad core i7 6700k 4.1 GHz CPU
Nvidia GTX 1080 Graphics card
32 Gb DDR4 RAM
650W PSU
240 Gb SSD + 2TB HDD (arma is installed on the hard drive not ssd)

Brand new rig and I want to know if my GPU is a "lemon" or something is bottlenecking my computer, or perhaps if you have an idea for something else that could be wrong please let me know. In game FPS is ultra settings 30-44 on 1080p resolution screen. Never can get above 50 FPS in KOTH (king of the hill). is this just KOTH or multiplayer in general and arma in general? is this reasonable or is something wrong should my specs be getting better performance? idk if it matters but I'll note that my screen is a professional workstation/design screen so it has better color accuracy than gaming or other screens and it is a 60hz monitor. Did I just get unlucky with poorly manufactured specs/parts?

Please let me know what you think.
Thanks.

(ps. looking for cool/serious arma 3 koth buddies to play with sometimes. I'm new to steam and arma 3 so I don't have any friends to play online and my real life friends don't game) <<<NERDS
I have the exaclty same specs as you and i have your same fps. You get low fps because of the bad optmisation. And even if you would have 60-70 fps you still would get 40to 50 fps because in arma 3 you don't get your pc's max performance so if you have 60fps but the server can handle only 50 you will only get 50. (sorry for bad english)
< >
Showing 1-15 of 22 comments
Per page: 1530 50

Date Posted: Jan 24, 2017 @ 12:45pm
Posts: 22