Smoke grenades need to be Removed until Optimized And heres WHY

[Lion]

I run at 300 FPS using a i7 7700k with a nivida 1080 gpu with 32gb of ram

I can load over 100 AI troops and not feel any FPS drop, I can do firefights and play just fine with nothing affecting my FPS, Until One thing.... A single smoke grenade.

A single smoke grenade takes me from 300 FPS to 130 FPS...... Thats INSANE! For my friends who dont have major gaming PC's, they can't even handle this stuff,they go from 50 fps down to 15 FPS.

This isn't acceptable in any standard anywhere. Instead of releasing more DLC, or anything else, FOCUS ON OPTIMIZATION!, Nothing in this game should drop your FPS by over 50% NOTHING!!! I'm here complaining for my friends and the hundreds others who all have this issue with extream FPS Drop from little dumb things.


IF you play a King of the hill or a wasteland server, a easy way to win a fight is to throw a smoke grenade behind you, because you'll lag out the enemy so bad they can't shoot back.

[Fishercat]

LeMur a écrit :

I run at 300 FPS using a i7 7700k with a nivida 1080 gpu with 32gb of ram

I can load over 100 AI troops and not feel any FPS drop, I can do firefights and play just fine with nothing affecting my FPS, Until One thing.... A single smoke grenade.

A single smoke grenade takes me from 300 FPS to 130 FPS...... Thats INSANE! For my friends who dont have major gaming PC's, they can't even handle this stuff,they go from 50 fps down to 15 FPS.

This isn't acceptable in any standard anywhere. Instead of releasing more DLC, or anything else, FOCUS ON OPTIMIZATION!, Nothing in this game should drop your FPS by over 50% NOTHING!!! I'm here complaining for my friends and the hundreds others who all have this issue with extream FPS Drop from little dumb things.


IF you play a King of the hill or a wasteland server, a easy way to win a fight is to throw a smoke grenade behind you, because you'll lag out the enemy so bad they can't shoot back.

Are you claiming to get 300fps in multiplayer?

[Lion]

Fishercat a écrit :

LeMur a écrit :

I run at 300 FPS using a i7 7700k with a nivida 1080 gpu with 32gb of ram

I can load over 100 AI troops and not feel any FPS drop, I can do firefights and play just fine with nothing affecting my FPS, Until One thing.... A single smoke grenade.

A single smoke grenade takes me from 300 FPS to 130 FPS...... Thats INSANE! For my friends who dont have major gaming PC's, they can't even handle this stuff,they go from 50 fps down to 15 FPS.

This isn't acceptable in any standard anywhere. Instead of releasing more DLC, or anything else, FOCUS ON OPTIMIZATION!, Nothing in this game should drop your FPS by over 50% NOTHING!!! I'm here complaining for my friends and the hundreds others who all have this issue with extream FPS Drop from little dumb things.


IF you play a King of the hill or a wasteland server, a easy way to win a fight is to throw a smoke grenade behind you, because you'll lag out the enemy so bad they can't shoot back.

Are you claiming to get 300fps in multiplayer?

I get 120 in multiplayer on max settings, 300 in editor.

[NZPorterDJ]

Analyst a écrit :

Screenshots or it didn't happen and even then I'll be skeptical.

No... it would have to be video... and no BS like running the server on a lan with one player!

[76]

I take a near zero fps hit even with multiple smoke nades... big cheap components I suspect.

[BillionaireBbyXO]

I get the same thing. 980 6700k. It's worse when you are in towns. Most people who have answered you are shocking human beings. WildNzPorter is taking the piss, he has no shame.

Arma fps drops.

#1) Towns
#2) Smoke / fire
#3) Ai

[NathaN]

AssKicker a écrit :

I get the same thing. 980 6700k. It's worse when you are in towns. Most people who have answered you are shocking human beings. WildNzPorter is taking the piss, he has no shame.

Arma fps drops.

#1) Towns
#2) Smoke / fire
#3) Ai

I get no fps drop from smoke or fire.
Large amounts of AI or towns yes fps drops.
So am I a shocking human because my pc doesnt have the problems you have???

[Speedbump]

It could be from the oupdat eop but this seems to be a very isolated issue. Report it to the developers instead of complaining anyway, all this thread will get is a swift lock.

[BillionaireBbyXO]

You won't understand this problem unless you are running 60+ fps with Vsync on. I said it to WildporterNz who claimed 80fps and no smoke drops at 4k. What a crackhead.

Nathan i guarentee if you have a firefight in a town with a smoke grenade you will go under 60 fps. Go zaros, get 1 squad and a car and blow the car up, then throw a smoke and come back to me. That is 4 men 1 car and a smoke grenade = fps doom. (and you could drop with less)

[NathaN]

AssKicker a écrit :

You won't understand this problem unless you are running 60+ fps with Vsync on. I said it to WildporterNz who claimed 80fps and no smoke drops at 4k. What a crackhead.

Nathan i guarentee if you have a firefight in a town with a smoke grenade you will go under 60 fps. Go zaros, get 1 squad and a car and blow the car up, then throw a smoke and come back to me. That is 4 men 1 car and a smoke grenade = fps doom. (and you could drop with less)

Did you read the OP? He is talking about 1 smoke grenade csusing drops from 300fps to 130fps or on a weak system drops from 50fps to 15 fps. Not as you suggest....dropping below 60fps when in a large town with an exploding car, smoke grenade and a firefight....although i will try this out in the editor next time im on to get numbers.

[BillionaireBbyXO]

Just do that simple test and post the results. Then you'll see the problem.

It is very disproportionate to what it should be and shows a clear oversight or lack of competance. That is why the OP is annoyed.

[PIFFKUSH]

Hortzy a écrit :

PIFFKUSH a écrit :

whats worse then smoke?

the birds, the snakes, the butterflies...

why? because it moves and everytime it moves it needs to tell everyone playing, HEY A SNAKE IS MOVING ACROSS THE STREET

its an object and every object on the map in MP makes FPS drop

DEVS GET RID OF THE THE BIRDS, SNAKES, AND BUTTERFLIES FOR MORE FPS!!!

Not totally true
Ambient Animals in maps are only Client side, Unless they are manually placed by mission creators.

So in the end, Snakes, rabbits, butterflies etc do not sync across clients in MP

But they are still objects and all objects cause FPS decrease. If you removed the birds, snakes, and rabbits you would be getting alot more frames...

they should be disabled in MP in general so everyone can get better performace

[BillionaireBbyXO]

Clutter makes it way worse, I'm not qualified but i'd guess it's a memory issue becasuse there are games that gather and hold much more object and information without a problem.

To me it feels like Arma maxes out of memory at quite a low value and anything after that causes lag. (Smoke is often the straw that breaks the camels back).

Towns really increase the journey to this threshold, so it doesn't take much inside one to experience drops. the only solution to it on this engine is to use smaller towns or less clutter dense terrains. (And then they release Tanoa.....oh)

[NathaN]

AssKicker a écrit :

Just do that simple test and post the results. Then you'll see the problem.

It is very disproportionate to what it should be and shows a clear oversight or lack of competance. That is why the OP is annoyed.

I just did your test. Started at 65 FPS in Zaros. During the firefight I threw 4 different coloured smoke grenades at teh same time as well as my IR grenades and frags, let the street fill with smoke then fought through it. The FPS never droped below 55. It bounced between 55-65 the whole time, the smokes diddnt seem to make any difference.

[BillionaireBbyXO]

What is your spec? Bearing in mind the two people who agree to Fps drops in that scenario have;

overclocked 980
overclocked 6700k (4.6ghz)
16gb ram

1080
7700k
32gb ram

[NathaN]

AssKicker a écrit :

What is your spec? Bearing in mind the two people who agree to Fps drops in that scenario have;

overclocked 980
overclocked 6700k (4.6ghz)
16gb ram

1080
7700k
32gb ram

i5 3570K @ 4.8ghz
Gtx 660 sli x2 overclocked with unlocked bios.
16gb ram
All on SSD


So your telling me you drop by fps by more than half from a smoke grenade haha what a load of crap.