New game exclusive for Epic Store?

[rusty_dragon]

Sorry guys, I'll wait for Steam release.

[ayetoday]

me too

[TheRealRws]

Only the early acces part is exclusive once its fully released it will go on other platforms

[rusty_dragon]

Originally posted by TheLaw:

Only the early acces part is exclusive once its fully released it will go on other platforms

Nice to hear. Then I won't bother much. Rarely buying EA nowadays.

Still I don't get the reason to promote store that calls community forums and review system "toxic".

[TheKing]

I don't have any interest in the Epic Games store either and I hate the idea of platform exclusives, that's not what I'm playing on PC for.

Originally posted by rusty_dragon:

Nice to hear. Then I won't bother much. Rarely buying EA nowadays.

Still I don't get the reason to promote store that calls community forums and review system "toxic".

Wow I hadn't even seen that yet, but found the article (https://www.kotaku.com.au/2018/12/the-guy-behind-steam-spy-has-been-working-on-epics-store-for-years/). I get it that the community forums sometimes get a bit heated, not everyone is always civilized, but I had plenty of good discussions here. I get it why they'd want to get rid of the review system though, its something that gives a great deal of power to the community after all and the whole point of the Epic store appears to be to cater to the developers. I'm amused by the idea “That’s why we won’t have forums on Epic Games store and will start with a ticketing system, so gamers can message devs about their problems instead of review-bombing them” Thats a really lame excuse, then devs get thousands of tickets in a worst case scenario, how are they supposed to handle that. Isn't reviews literally the same in terms of expressing what one likes or doesn't like about the game. Just with reviews its publically and permanent, there is a visible consequence of ignoring the customers, whereas in this proposed system, the devs can ignore the complaints of the players, after they got their money

[caelcyndar5]

Originally posted by TheKing:

I don't have any interest in the Epic Games store either and I hate the idea of platform exclusives, that's not what I'm playing on PC for.

Originally posted by rusty_dragon:

Nice to hear. Then I won't bother much. Rarely buying EA nowadays.

Still I don't get the reason to promote store that calls community forums and review system "toxic".

Wow I hadn't even seen that yet, but found the article (https://www.kotaku.com.au/2018/12/the-guy-behind-steam-spy-has-been-working-on-epics-store-for-years/). I get it that the community forums sometimes get a bit heated, not everyone is always civilized, but I had plenty of good discussions here. I get it why they'd want to get rid of the review system though, its something that gives a great deal of power to the community after all and the whole point of the Epic store appears to be to cater to the developers. I'm amused by the idea “That’s why we won’t have forums on Epic Games store and will start with a ticketing system, so gamers can message devs about their problems instead of review-bombing them” Thats a really lame excuse, then devs get thousands of tickets in a worst case scenario, how are they supposed to handle that. Isn't reviews literally the same in terms of expressing what one likes or doesn't like about the game. Just with reviews its publically and permanent, there is a visible consequence of ignoring the customers, whereas in this proposed system, the devs can ignore the complaints of the players, after they got their money

Players of Ashen are using Steams discussion threads to try and fix problems with the game.

[rusty_dragon]

Originally posted by caelcyndar5:

Originally posted by TheKing:

I don't have any interest in the Epic Games store either and I hate the idea of platform exclusives, that's not what I'm playing on PC for.





Wow I hadn't even seen that yet, but found the article (https://www.kotaku.com.au/2018/12/the-guy-behind-steam-spy-has-been-working-on-epics-store-for-years/). I get it that the community forums sometimes get a bit heated, not everyone is always civilized, but I had plenty of good discussions here. I get it why they'd want to get rid of the review system though, its something that gives a great deal of power to the community after all and the whole point of the Epic store appears to be to cater to the developers. I'm amused by the idea “That’s why we won’t have forums on Epic Games store and will start with a ticketing system, so gamers can message devs about their problems instead of review-bombing them” Thats a really lame excuse, then devs get thousands of tickets in a worst case scenario, how are they supposed to handle that. Isn't reviews literally the same in terms of expressing what one likes or doesn't like about the game. Just with reviews its publically and permanent, there is a visible consequence of ignoring the customers, whereas in this proposed system, the devs can ignore the complaints of the players, after they got their money

Players of Ashen are using Steams discussion threads to try and fix problems with the game.

Brilliant. Let's fall for Epic Games poisonous tales, bash Valve for all the hard work and love they've been doing for PC platform and Indie developers. And then people who bought game in anti-Valve store run to Steam community forums with their problems.
It's a child hates parents type of issue.

[Viridium]

Has there been any mentioning how long till Hades is released elsewhere (aka Steam)? Most exclusivities are only time limited and I can't imagine they will only release on that ♥♥♥♥♥♥ platform.

[JiminyJickers]

Originally posted by Viridium:

Has there been any mentioning how long till Hades is released elsewhere (aka Steam)? Most exclusivities are only time limited and I can't imagine they will only release on that ♥♥♥♥♥♥ platform.

All the other timed exclusive game on Epic store is 12 months before they are allowed on another store, of the ones I have researched so far.

[Blazin' Fists]

Disappointed Supergiant (a developer I respect) is going along with Epic's proposals at face value, though relieved at least Hades is only a timed exclusive rather than a pure exclusive like I was worried about.

[Witch ~]

this is sad

[Andronius]

I too hope Hades will come to Steam eventually. Apparently, it WILL. Judging from the Alpha vids and reviews, Hades will be another gem of game from Supergiant! I've always loved their gorgeous art and music, and appreciate the effort they put into gameplay.

Why is Hades available only via the Epic Games store? Will it come to other platforms?

"We’ve never launched a game into Early Access before, and our players have come to expect complete, self-contained games from us ever since Bastion’s debut in 2011. With Hades, we knew we really wanted to create a game we could develop in partnership with the community, and from talking to the folks at Epic, we realized their store would be the perfect place to conduct our latest experiment.

Our focus during Early Access will be on making Hades the best game possible. If you’re the sort of player who’s open to and interested in experiencing a game like ours take shape over time, you’ll be able to take part in its journey on the Epic Games store. If you’d prefer to wait until the game is 100% complete, we expect Hades will eventually be available on a variety of platforms, once Early Access is complete".

(https://www.supergiantgames.com/blog/hades-faq/)

Best luck to the ppl making this beautiful game!

[Witch ~]

Originally posted by Andronius:

I too hope Hades will come to Steam eventually. Apparently, it WILL. Judging from the Alpha vids and reviews, Hades will be another gem of game from Supergiant! I've always loved their gorgeous art and music, and appreciate the effort they put into gameplay.

Why is Hades available only via the Epic Games store? Will it come to other platforms?

"We’ve never launched a game into Early Access before, and our players have come to expect complete, self-contained games from us ever since Bastion’s debut in 2011. With Hades, we knew we really wanted to create a game we could develop in partnership with the community, and from talking to the folks at Epic, we realized their store would be the perfect place to conduct our latest experiment.

Our focus during Early Access will be on making Hades the best game possible. If you’re the sort of player who’s open to and interested in experiencing a game like ours take shape over time, you’ll be able to take part in its journey on the Epic Games store. If you’d prefer to wait until the game is 100% complete, we expect Hades will eventually be available on a variety of platforms, once Early Access is complete".

(https://www.supergiantgames.com/blog/hades-faq/)

Best luck to the ppl making this beautiful game!

Thats kind of a weird reasoning. While would a store run by super suspicious people be the better alternative?

[rusty_dragon]

Originally posted by Witch ~:

Originally posted by Andronius:

I too hope Hades will come to Steam eventually. Apparently, it WILL. Judging from the Alpha vids and reviews, Hades will be another gem of game from Supergiant! I've always loved their gorgeous art and music, and appreciate the effort they put into gameplay.

Why is Hades available only via the Epic Games store? Will it come to other platforms?

"We’ve never launched a game into Early Access before, and our players have come to expect complete, self-contained games from us ever since Bastion’s debut in 2011. With Hades, we knew we really wanted to create a game we could develop in partnership with the community, and from talking to the folks at Epic, we realized their store would be the perfect place to conduct our latest experiment.

Our focus during Early Access will be on making Hades the best game possible. If you’re the sort of player who’s open to and interested in experiencing a game like ours take shape over time, you’ll be able to take part in its journey on the Epic Games store. If you’d prefer to wait until the game is 100% complete, we expect Hades will eventually be available on a variety of platforms, once Early Access is complete".

(https://www.supergiantgames.com/blog/hades-faq/)

Best luck to the ppl making this beautiful game!

Thats kind of a weird reasoning. While would a store run by super suspicious people be the better alternative?

Because some people are prone to Epic games propaganda. How Valve are "bathing in money", 30% revenue cut is a rip-off, etc, etc Comes from Tim Sweeney, CEO of Epic Games. But people preffer to ignore his bias for some reason.

[Mysti_Fogg]

Originally posted by TheKing:

I don't have any interest in the Epic Games store either and I hate the idea of platform exclusives, that's not what I'm playing on PC for.

Originally posted by rusty_dragon:

Nice to hear. Then I won't bother much. Rarely buying EA nowadays.

Still I don't get the reason to promote store that calls community forums and review system "toxic".

Wow I hadn't even seen that yet, but found the article (https://www.kotaku.com.au/2018/12/the-guy-behind-steam-spy-has-been-working-on-epics-store-for-years/). I get it that the community forums sometimes get a bit heated, not everyone is always civilized, but I had plenty of good discussions here. I get it why they'd want to get rid of the review system though, its something that gives a great deal of power to the community after all and the whole point of the Epic store appears to be to cater to the developers. I'm amused by the idea “That’s why we won’t have forums on Epic Games store and will start with a ticketing system, so gamers can message devs about their problems instead of review-bombing them” Thats a really lame excuse, then devs get thousands of tickets in a worst case scenario, how are they supposed to handle that. Isn't reviews literally the same in terms of expressing what one likes or doesn't like about the game. Just with reviews its publically and permanent, there is a visible consequence of ignoring the customers, whereas in this proposed system, the devs can ignore the complaints of the players, after they got their money

I found it so odd that they weren't going to have forums because I don't look at forums as a medium to contact developers. It's a medium to chat with other players about the game. If the developers see things that are bugs on forums, then great. But sometimes I want to talk about a character. Sometimes I want to find the key to a puzzle I can't solve. Sometimes I just want to talk about related topics.

::shrug::

I'm also not moving to epic. I have 298 games on Steam. I bought them on Steam so that I could always have access to them. It's in my best interest to continue to support Steam as a company. They'd have to do something horrible to make me give them up because I'd be losing thousands of dollars if I did so.

I'd also like fewer game launchers, not more.

I respect developers wanting to do timed exclusives on epic because they get more money out of it. And I wish them the best. I just hope they release on steam eventually.

[Tschilumbu]

And another dev on my ignore list. Thx for saving my money. Good luck with epic!