Marines are Overpowered in Multiplayer

[C E Z A R I N A]

Don't you think they are overpowered in multiplayer ? They can kill every alien and predator in 6 or 7 shots and are killed with 3 swings of claws/blades. In singleplayer, you kill an alien with 15+ bullets and you die very easy.

[Constantine]

yeah well preds can use spin disc and PC to kill them easy if in tight group,thats waht i do.

[BROOD-SkorpioN]

Originally posted by ツ ℂ8chilu™ ツ:

Don't you think they are overpowered in multiplayer ? They can kill every alien and predator in 6 or 7 shots and are killed with 3 swings of claws/blades. In singleplayer, you kill an alien with 15+ bullets and you die very easy.

How does any of this suggest they are overpowered?

[Mister Torgue Flexington]

Originally posted by BROOD-SkorpioN:

Originally posted by ツ ℂ8chilu™ ツ:

Don't you think they are overpowered in multiplayer ? They can kill every alien and predator in 6 or 7 shots and are killed with 3 swings of claws/blades. In singleplayer, you kill an alien with 15+ bullets and you die very easy.

How does any of this suggest they are overpowered?

he's probably talking about the Shotgun's double-barrel blast from its alternate firing mode (which is pretty powerful nonetheless) one-shotting enemies after stunning them with a well-timed melee counter.

[Thorp]

in my opinion marine effectiveness is based heavily on map layout and who is playing by the "rules" established by the marine during the match.

Maps that are open like Ruins, Gateway and Refinery give the marine clear shots yet also have plenty of places to avoid being seen. On the other hand maps like Jungle and Temple, marines are subject to sudden close quarter combat and xeno wall-tail attacks.

Marines get most of their power from what "game" or strategy the opponents allow the marine to employ. Cat & mouse, hide & seek; if the marine has control of the opponents movements the marine can easily win. For example when a marine is against an aggressive predator it is easier to wait for the pred to come to the marine while hiding around a corner. The marine has radar and can see the pred coming whereas the pred is restricted to sight only. Unforunately if a marine is caught out of position/safety or lacking the 'right weapon for the job' the marine has a problem (especially in lag causing delayed audio cues and animation).

All in all the marine is powerful if they are allowed to exploit the opposing species problems.

During my time playing marine success was driven on the momentum of the game. Whenever I killed an opponent I intuitively knew the general respawn location and which weapon to use knowing that terrain (scoped rifle, m4, shotgun, flamethrower)

[Thorp]

Originally posted by RC***Sgt.D_Nukem***:

he's probably talking about the Shotgun's double-barrel blast from its alternate firing mode (which is pretty powerful nonetheless) one-shotting enemies after stunning them with a well-timed melee counter.

Perhaps that is the notion though a few rounds to the face with the m4 is quite devistating especially close range.

[C E Z A R I N A]

The Marine's tactics are complicated and dangerous, especially for Predators I may say. The shotgun does too much damage in my opinion. The Marine may seem little, but it's strong enough to kill huge Preds and Wall-Climbing Aliens. I hate the melee mechanics because, let's say, if a Pred gets hit bad by an Alien and put down, he needs to recover. You recover very slow, as you have no chance to be alive when you are back on your feet again. For those who didn't understand, let me say it again : An Alien punches you in the face, they throw you on the floor. You need to get back on your feet. The animation is so slow, you get killed almost everytime.

[Thorp]

ya the melee combat is rough. Essentially melee is a game of rock paper scissors if each win actually afflicted damage to the oppenent's hand. Bloodied and bruised the opponent may not want to continue the game of r,p,s but not having a chance to avoid another strike when returning to your feet is frustrating. It's one of the main reasons for picking the marine, block, counter-melee or bullets to the face - being killed quickly by melee is sometimes a welcome outcome.

[BROOD-SkorpioN]

Originally posted by ツ ℂ8chilu™ ツ:

I hate the melee mechanics because, let's say, if a Pred gets hit bad by an Alien and put down, he needs to recover. You recover very slow, as you have no chance to be alive when you are back on your feet again.

That's kind of the whole point though.

[Lone Warrior]

No Marines are not overpowered to my opinion. Actually, they have very little chance against skilled alien or pred players. I am very skilled alien player and almost every time killed marines 1V1 even against ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ cheater marine players :)

[Lone Warrior]

If you say so :) but seriously I have played against too many people back in two years. Most of them was top skilled honest players like RedBull.

Please don't misunderstand me I am not saying I'm suporior to everyone. Just saying if you skilled enough, you can kill them any more than they kill you ;)

[WOLF]

I think marines not have any adventage over other species and do not think that marine is OP.
Marine has the most less energy compared with other species, Shootgun is powered weapon only on close distance, sniper is ok but compare it with the predator, more energy,disc, spear (instant kill), e grabb, plasma,mines, heavy attack, light attack,focus attack etc.
Alien: a lot more energy, speed, wall tail, focus attack, heavy attack, light attack,E grabb
I just do not see how the marine is OP
So it all depends on the individual player Skil

[Stambe]

Wolf ,you enumerate things like plasma, mines and e-grabs that you are frowned upon by using them as either alien or predator. If you use them them marines are not so tough, but without them good marine players are a b.i.t.c.h to fight against. Branding them as OP is a little too much imho. If there is anything OP in this game is the pred esp with glitches and exploits.

[WOLF]

Originally posted by GMSStambe:

Wolf ,you enumerate things like plasma, mines and e-grabs that you are frowned upon by using them as either alien or predator. If you use them them marines are not so tough, but without them good marine players are a b.i.t.c.h to fight against. Branding them as OP is a little too much imho. If there is anything OP in this game is the pred esp with glitches and exploits.

As I said before depends of individual skill
When I play with pred not use plasma and grabb, with alien not use grabb and still can beat good marines
Of course sometime lose sometime vin...
Glitches and exploits are another thema

[{<>i<>} Hoplite]

Any species in this game can be overpowering depends on who is playing via cheats and hacks

[Sharpshooter]

Marines are overpowered? Thats a new one.
Predators are the strongest species, both with and without rules. They combine marines ability to attack at distance and they are more effective in melee than aliens. They have 150 health, when aliens have 130 and marines 100, making them the most tanky characters. To make matters worse, healing as predator is by far the easiest. Aliens have to wait, marine has to collect single stims, and he can have a maximum of 3 of them at a time. Predator has a maximum of 4, and after he runs dry on energy/healing all he has to do is to run up to recharging place to get another 4.
Some may say that aliens see through walls and marine has a motion detector, and predator is limited only to vision, but thats not true. If you take the disc you get a very long range wallhack, if you didnt know that already try looking at your crosshair while you're holding the disc.
In right hands predator equipped with disc can beat any marine and any alien.
Marine is popular in pro players, because he requires the most skill to use. Thats why you might think he's overpowered. If you think so, try using him yourself, and see how it fits you ;]