Is Weyland-Yutani's leadership insane?

[Valden21]

Seriously, I'm starting to question their mental abilities. Multiple games in the franchise see them planning to use the Xenos in some scheme, and when things inevitably go bad, they always have to call in the Marines for help. For crying out loud, the second AvP game has them try to take over the Xenomorph species by threatening to kill the Xenomorph Empress, and it's a plan cooked up by the local director. It fails miserably, of course. Do they not pay attention to previous incidents?

[Reginald CZ]

Well, they don't mind about people losses since first Alien film. They are your typical evil corporation, who only want to reach their goal (getting aliens as bio weapon) for any cost.

And also if they would learn about their mistakes, there wouldn't be any AvP or Alien game anymore, at least with this typical plot.

[Valden21]

Originally posted by Reginald CZ:

Well, they don't mind about people losses since first Alien film. They are your typical evil corporation, who only want to reach their goal (getting aliens as bio weapon) for any cost.

And also if they would learn about their mistakes, there wouldn't be any AvP or Alien game anymore, at least with this typical plot.

They definitely don't care about the HUMAN cost, but FINANCIAL cost is something else. Take what happens in the ending of AvP 2's Marine campaign, for example: The ENTIRE Weyland-Yutani POC on LV-1201 gets destroyed. A facility of that size and complexity must require a few hundred billion dollars to build, and even though Xenos weren't the primary cause of the facility's destruction, they were an integral part of the the events that led to it getting destroyed. I think that at least after one or two events like this, the shareholders would shut those schemes down.

It doesn't have to lead to an end to those kind of AvP plots, either. We don't know the quality of interstellar communication between human ships or bases in this setting. Even after such a moratorium being issued, it might still take time for all Weyland-Yutani ships and bases to receive such an order. Besides, all it would take would be one bad connection, or a loose wire, or someone not taking the order seriously, or even just a lazy/careless cargo handler, and the plot starts over again. After all, that's how AvP 2's Alien campaign begins: one long handler forgets to properly secure a container with a Xenomorph egg inside, and a facehugger gets loose because of it.

[Rip_Dawg_The_Veteran]

I read something a while back and it said something about Weyland-Yutani owning the entire power grid of Earth and leading the way for Space Colonization.

I reckon money would not be an issue....

[1v4n94]

Originally posted by Reginald CZ:

And also if they would learn about their mistakes, there wouldn't be any AvP or Alien game anymore, at least with this typical plot.

I agree. Same happens with the Jurassic franchise. It all floats around disasters, and the chaos theory itself.

[Valden21]

Originally posted by Rip_Dawg_The_Veteran:

I read something a while back and it said something about Weyland-Yutani owning the entire power grid of Earth and leading the way for Space Colonization.

I reckon money would not be an issue....

Yeah, but that's if happen only once. The couple hundred billion to build those facilities are made up of one-time expenditures, but the cost to maintain just one of those things is more then that. Staff payroll, payments to mercs for security purposes, bribes to staff to keep quiet, bribes to corrupt government officials, funereal costs for when a Xenomorph gets loose; all that stuff adds up. Even if it only happens once, it's gonna cost a lot. But the problem is that it DOESN'T just happen once, it happens again and again and again. Eventually, the wider human populace of the AvP universe is gonna catch on.

[Kranford T. Butcher]

Might also want to check the Aliens comics for your answer. In that, the xenomorph queens emit a psychic signal not unlike the indoctrination that Reapers from the Mass Effect series use. In the case of the queens, it makes people subconsciously want to help the aliens breed and expand. In the case of the comics, it leads to the formation of a huge xenomorph cult.

[1v4n94]

Originally posted by Krancakes:

Might also want to check the Aliens comics for your answer. In that, the xenomorph queens emit a psychic signal not unlike the indoctrination that Reapers from the Mass Effect series use. In the case of the queens, it makes people subconsciously want to help the aliens breed and expand. In the case of the comics, it leads to the formation of a huge xenomorph cult.

I didn't know that. Cool! But what's wrong with the cyborgs, though? They tend to be evil and sometimes even help people, lol.

It's like Aliens is not really aliens without a cyborg (correct me please, I don't remember their proper name).

[Reginald CZ]

Originally posted by 1v4n94:

Originally posted by Krancakes:

Might also want to check the Aliens comics for your answer. In that, the xenomorph queens emit a psychic signal not unlike the indoctrination that Reapers from the Mass Effect series use. In the case of the queens, it makes people subconsciously want to help the aliens breed and expand. In the case of the comics, it leads to the formation of a huge xenomorph cult.

I didn't know that. Cool! But what's wrong with the cyborgs, though? They tend to be evil and sometimes even help people, lol.

It's like Aliens is not really aliens without a cyborg (correct me please, I don't remember their proper name).

By cyborgs did you mean "androids"? Like Ash in the first film?

[Valden21]

Originally posted by Reginald CZ:

Originally posted by 1v4n94:

I didn't know that. Cool! But what's wrong with the cyborgs, though? They tend to be evil and sometimes even help people, lol.

It's like Aliens is not really aliens without a cyborg (correct me please, I don't remember their proper name).

By cyborgs did you mean "androids"? Like Ash in the first film?

That would actually be "synths". I don't quite know for sure, but I have a feeling that in the AvP universe, all humanoid robots are referred to as synths.

[Kranford T. Butcher]

Synthetics, androids, artificial persons, what have you. In the case of the androids, you can chalk that up to directives with no behavioral inhibitors. Well, with the exception of Karl. Karl is definitely something more than just programming, if he was indeed implanted with the memories of Charles Weyland. An audio log from Katya in the research labs talks about how something might have gone wrong with the memories and personality.

[Kranford T. Butcher]

that being said, if you thought Weyland-Yutani execs were nuttier than a squirrel's food stash, you have to read Aliens: Nightmare Asylum. It's a comic set 10 years after Aliens, and the human villain of it, General Spears, makes even Karl look like an absolute saint. When his end comes, it is utterly deserved and absolute laser-guided karma.

[1v4n94]

Originally posted by 1v4n94:

Originally posted by Krancakes:

It's like Aliens is not really aliens without a cyborg (correct me please, I don't remember their proper name).

I weirdly forgot to include the final sentence: "...behaving in a bad way".

Sorry guys :P

[1v4n94]

Synthetic AI seems fine. Thanks Krancakes for bringing that info up in the table.

Now the question is: can the xenomorph be friendly and reproduce at the same time? Can they coexist with other humanoid-ish creatures like yautja or are they naturally aggressive and savagery is in their DNA? Food for thought! 😕

[Just Chill]

Originally posted by Valden21:

Is Weyland-Yutani's leadership insane?

Yes, because they are practically run by heartless androids.

Originally posted by 1v4n94:

Synthetic AI seems fine.

I agree when it comes to some synthetic individuals.

Like Bishop in Alien 2 or Katya in the game.

[Kranford T. Butcher]

Originally posted by 1v4n94:

Synthetic AI seems fine. Thanks Krancakes for bringing that info up in the table.

Now the question is: can the xenomorph be friendly and reproduce at the same time? Can they coexist with other humanoid-ish creatures like yautja or are they naturally aggressive and savagery is in their DNA? Food for thought! 😕

Short answer: no

Long answer: still no, and that is because they are bio-weapons. They were bred and made to be this aggressive and nasty. And in some cases, such as the one that spawns in the very first movie, it's actively malicious.

There's one other thing that AVP2 (the game, not the crappy movie) brings up about synths. Dr. Eisenberg, the head honcho of the Wey-Yu facilities there, he had his neural patterns imprinted into an android body. According to logs that you can find during the marine campaign (and a few other clues during the others), there are rumors that the process causes things like emotional instability. Given Eisenberg and Karl's ruthlessness in their respective games, I'd say the rumors are pretty accurate.