why no crouch?

[Ason]

I mean... I guess it's not "as" useful for this (old) specific game format/play style, but all the other AvP games had "crouch" like all standard FPS games.

I haven't played this game since i got it back when it came out...now I remember why. (+ reading random threads on here makes me sad knowing it's all hackers and special snowflakes)

is there no mods to add in a "crouch" capability?

[BROOD-SkorpioN]

Cause it's a console game and they ran out of controller keys. And if crouching was useful in the older games, it could've been useful here.

[Ason]

It was useful...well...at least from my vague teen memories of playing those older games. I wish I could somehow mod or find someone to mod the "walk" key to become "crouch" and instead. I mainly enjoy the AvP series for the single player story.

:(

i feel very old now.

[gulc]

The animation, at least for the marines is in the game. There was a glitch in the vanilla release where you would automatically crouch on certain parts of the maps.

[Ason]

^ my point exactly, the animation is already made, can be remade, modded, converted,blahblahblah and can be implemented in this game to add to its function.

i dunno....am old.....and I just wanna play PEW PEW vs some xenos or Yaut'ja and be able to duck.

[BROOD-SkorpioN]

Originally posted by El Guapo:

i dunno....am old.....and I just wanna play PEW PEW vs some xenos or Yaut'ja and be able to duck.

http://store.steampowered.com/app/3730/Aliens_versus_Predator_Classic_2000/

[Strongfinger]

I was just contemplating replaying this again, but remembered that not only isnt it as good as the older AvP2 classic, there is no damn crouch feature! Very off putting, especially when you see some waist high cover when you are being shot at, run to it and realise that; Oh! I can't f**king crouch can I? Top half exposed! Great!

Originally posted by nW|gulc:

The animation, at least for the marines is in the game.

That's a start, but there's more to a proper crouch feature than an animation. The hit box on the player also needs to be shrunk down and then returned to normal height when they come out of crouch. Also the camera needs to drop down a bit and return to normal height when the player stands up. That is unless the camera is parented to the character rig, which lowers during animation. Just a thought for any modders out there thinking about doing it.

I'd do myself if I had the time and could be bothered learning to mod for this old game, which Im not even that keen on. But it would require some programming for the hitbox, which means that Rebellion would probably need to release the source code, but not sure. I have my hands full enough making my own game in Unity 3D.

[Ason]

2 years later since i posted this and I'm still sad about it.

[Strongfinger]

Yep, me too. This is something the developers should have added in a patch a long time ago.

[thebaconson]

No crouch cause the game is like 10 years old.
It wasn't too much of a must have back then.

[Ason]

all fps games should have WASD, jump, crouch, prone (optional). as a minimum. all games. even monopoly.

[thebaconson]

Originally posted by Not Cracky:

all fps games should have WASD, jump, crouch, prone (optional). as a minimum. all games. even monopoly.

Did you know, games used to only use the arrow keys and CTRL, and thats it, some used the spacebar too.

[Strongfinger]

Originally posted by thebaconson:

No crouch cause the game is like 10 years old.
It wasn't too much of a must have back then.

Not true at all. This is a 2010 game, not an early 90's game! Most FPS games had a crouch feature by that time. In fact all of the previous AvP fps games that came before it had a crouch feature for all 3 species. AvP2 back in 2003 had crouch, even the very first AvP fps shooter made by the same developers "Rebellion" in 1999 had a crouch feature for all 3 Species! The same developers did it in 1999, but decided not to in 2010. Nothing to do with the time it was made and nothing to do with an inexperienced developer. It was a bad design choice most likely influenced by corporate greed and tight budgets on money and time over quality.

Originally posted by thebaconson:

Originally posted by Not Cracky:

all fps games should have WASD, jump, crouch, prone (optional). as a minimum. all games. even monopoly.

Did you know, games used to only use the arrow keys and CTRL, and thats it, some used the spacebar too.

Even WASD started becoming standard in the late 90's.