PVP is finaly dead gg AGS

[Bonbarman]

GG AGS. You did it. That was your goal, now its official : pvp is dead and its the most brainless it has ever been. Bow has been op since early 2022, FS have been op since season 1 of new world 7 months ago, and now BB is back at being completly braindead. AGS won't nerf these weapons since they have been unable to do it for the past year. So GG AGS. Your goal has been met, no melee will want to play PVP. And btw if you disagree with me, you are a terrible player and i dont care about your opinion.

Update : bow artifact is the final nail in the coffin. A coffin which have been burried a year ago already, and has been eaten by every worm type imaginable. I wish this bow goes to live like this to final kill new world

Last update : Shirking heals being removed from new world just shows how stupid these devs are. I'm not even playing oprs or arenas anymore, so i dont care. Poor players who try to get involved in PVP... May this game die quick

Very last update : Stopped new world, ags wont do anything with this game except using it as a milking machine for pvers, bots and addicts

[IconoclastEntityActual]

Originally posted by Bonbarman:

GG AGS. You did it. That was your goal, now its official : pvp is dead and its the most brainless it has ever been. Bow has been op since early 2022, FS have been op since season 1 of new world 7 months ago, and now BB is back at being completly braindead. AGS won't nerf these weapons since they have been unable to do it for the past year. So GG AGS. Your goal has been met, no melee will want to play PVP. And btw if you disagree with me, you are a terrible player and i dont care about your opinion.

I hate to say this but if you are looking for complex and skill-based PvP in a modern MMO. Then you are in the wrong, and here is why.
* It's much easier to cater to smooth brain-dead players who want little to no mechanics in their PvP. Take CoD and now BF for instance.
* Smooth brain-dead players don't care about balance, actually they perfer in highly unbalanced PvP scene. So they have a shot of winning, by just playing the broken spec.
* Smooth brain-dead players are immensely easier to entertain than players with demand for complex and skill-based PvP.


All and all if you are looking for decent mindful skill-based PvP in a MMO package. Then you are going to have to look at some of the earlier MMOs. Like Guild Wars 2, Eve Online, WoW, and Mortal Online 2.

However, if you are looking for good meaningful and skill-based PvP. I'd recommend looking in some of the dedicated PvP genres for it. They will give you PvP on quality that no MMORPG can.

Just my two cents on matter!

[raven5066]

Its def true about the Bow. Makes you think all devs play bow. Its not the single one thats the problem, its that 50% of OPR are playing them and when you step out, you're instantly a pin cushion.

[NutCracker]

Realy this is not a game for real pvp gamers, newer been and is not ment to be. The pvp ers i meet in tex, darkfall, well this is a sandboxgame compare to when you get adrenalin from loose all your gear and mount etc when u die. But its a realy nice relaxing game to have fun whit. At least i do, to old to start pvp for real again.

[Bonbarman]

Originally posted by Ascended One:

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I agree with what you said. And thats the issue i have. AGS has low standards for the PVP in their game. They have the first ever true action combat mmorpg, huge potential and huge way to gain attraction for a more invested crowed.
Tab target pvp is boring, ive played too many these mmos and its more based around "class counter picks" than actual skill based action.
Sure i'm not looking for next LoL or next CSGO here, but there should be a middle ground between the braindead PVP we are used in mmos, and the complexity of valorant PVP.

[Bonbarman]

Its not even that hard. Just nerf the stupid damage range weapons deal with standards attacks and buff their spells, so they deal damage with their spells. In a good game, DPS range archetypes should deal damage with abilities, and melee archetypes with standards attacks

[Giosauce]

PVP is life dungeon farmers.

[Gias]

Originally posted by Bonbarman:

They have the first ever true action combat mmorpg,

NW is hybrid. pve mob attacks have homing missiles you can only iFrame with dodge. pvp healing is tab targeting. And there were older mmos with fps combat like the previously mentioned mortal online. The primary problem with that game was full loot so unfit for casuals.

I think if you just want some fun medieval pvp you should play chivalry.

[Bonbarman]

Originally posted by Gias:

Originally posted by Bonbarman:

They have the first ever true action combat mmorpg,

NW is hybrid. pve mob attacks have homing missiles you can only iFrame with dodge. pvp healing is tab targeting. And there were older mmos with fps combat like the previously mentioned mortal online. The primary problem with that game was full loot so unfit for casuals.

I think if you just want some fun medieval pvp you should play chivalry.

Very few mobs have homing missiles. Most of them are wipe mechanics. And for players, basicaly only healers have a few spells that are tab target. 95% of nw is action combat. So NW is action combat.

[Gias]

Originally posted by Bonbarman:

Very few mobs have homing missiles. Most of them are wipe mechanics. And for players, basicaly only healers have a few spells that are tab target. 95% of nw is action combat. So NW is action combat.

xpac zone elephants&gorillas throw homing missile at you. So you are constantly dealing with it now. Healing any group gameplay you better of tab target healing since its the only way to target a player behind another player. You can ignore tab target healing but it makes you a worse healer.

[mouse223]

Originally posted by Likabul:

So all the people in Global loving the new open world PVP are WRONG?

it isnt enough to save this game they know they will never be able to sell another expansion to anyone other than the few who are die hard fan boys and that isnt enough to justify spending millions on another expansion,

[Matos[QC]]

They wanted to appeal casual and pve only community into a PVP based game play mechanic... they succeed it and make tons of money of it ... they gave mounts without tweaking teleportation to get more players ... more money to them ... but the game became trash !

That s what games are in 2023

[Bonbarman]

Originally posted by MatosQC:

They wanted to appeal casual and pve only community into a PVP based game play mechanic... they succeed it and make tons of money of it ... they gave mounts without tweaking teleportation to get more players ... more money to them ... but the game became trash !

That s what games are in 2023

Yes pretty much

[Bonbarman]

Originally posted by Gias:

Originally posted by Bonbarman:

Very few mobs have homing missiles. Most of them are wipe mechanics. And for players, basicaly only healers have a few spells that are tab target. 95% of nw is action combat. So NW is action combat.

xpac zone elephants&gorillas throw homing missile at you. So you are constantly dealing with it now. Healing any group gameplay you better of tab target healing since its the only way to target a player behind another player. You can ignore tab target healing but it makes you a worse healer.

Except they dont have homing missiles. But ok.

[VonFIDDE]

The game is not balanced for casuals, but for the rest it's kinda well balanced. Sure some things are a bit overtuned but there is counters for everything.

[Man Dong]

It’s Dead World my dude. If I recall correctly there were bugs with the hatchet that gave it insane damage and a bug with the great axe that turned you into the flash. Expecting this game to have anything close to solid balanced pvp is really expecting too much.