Auto Dodging Hack: Why aren't people discussing this problem? Should I just use it too?

[Deliriouz]

This cheat is ruining the game for me.

I will explain whats happening. The enemy will be focusing on attacking someone, not even knowing I am there, and I hit them with an instant attack. Or I will hit them with a fire staff heavy attack far away and they miraculously dodge the attack the very second the attack lands on them WHILE they are attacking someone else or running away.

Sometimes the dodge animations wont even trigger. I just get a "dodged" prompt. Most of the time I will attack the floor beside them and purposely miss them and they do not dodge. Only when its a direct hit, only AFTER it hits, the "dodge" prompt comes up.

This also happens when they are running away chasing someone so its not like they are watching behind them.

This happens over and over again from the same people I test. You can tell when someone inst using auto dodge by unpredictably, surprising them with an attack. But if you actively chase someone who is using one, they dodge every hit until their stamina is depleted. No mistakes.

People don't understand a dodge should happen before the projectile or weapons hits the target NOT exactly when the target is hit or even in some cases AFTER the target as obviously been hit.

Auto dodge is just as bad as wall hacking, and aim botting, it takes skill out of the equation and ruins PVP for legit players. Not to mention imagine using auto dodge in an expedition how easy the bosses would be....

[Kilsubub]

引用自 Enforcer：

引用自 Kilsubub：

Client side processing can always be hacked. The game depends on the validity of the packets sent by the clients machine. It can be hit and then send a packet that said it dodged. Oops the server believes the clients lie and he dodges out of the way even when hit. Hacked! You can not prevent the client from manipulating the packets to the server.

Hackers Bah. Low life's with no morals.

If that's how they do it the server can always count anything unclear as a hit f.e. the server says hit, attacker says hit and the target says no hit = hit.

That is how duping happens and combat exploits. Manipulating the packets between the client and the servers. NW has your computer doing the checking and a packet to the server with the results ( Client side processing ). It does minimal resolution checking server side. Hackers find a way to circumvent. Usually timing.

On a side note they do keep a data base of item created and duping can be detected server side. Not the same with damage or the outcomes of combat. Ergo combat hacking. This all played out with Everquest. You think they would learn.

[BillHicks]

I've seen this. People who miraculously dodges everything. These cheaters run around the battlefield without a care. Easy toggleable hack.

[Cheezypeaz]

Seen this many times, as well as hiding in a bush thats behind a tree filling my vape, guy runs out the door of base and shoots his bow poison right at tree :-D

[PoorUglyPeasant]

skill issue more likely, but im curious if such a hack exists

[Shephard]

There is so much daylight between PVP "META" builds and I suppose what you would call a general build it's easy to think there is some of cheating going on. 90% of cases there isnt any its just the way the game is now, build of the patch etc. there maybe some actual hacking going on but I would imagine that show's up very quickly on the server side as a abnormal client behaviour. in essence If you not in LA and you don't have healer support its v difficult to compete in the limited PVP modes, OPR and arena etc.

[Crunktanium]

引用自 Shephard：

it's easy to think there is some of cheating going on

Nah bro it's a conspiracy as with anything that makes me lose or die in game. I know the NWO and Free Masons are behind me at every turn. They are surely afraid of me getting gud in my old age and pwning them all. So them and the hackers probably working on the same team to sabotage and make me lose.

[Baron]

I will agree that in general, the projectile vs dodging system in pvp in this game isn't great.

[jaysonhauk]

quickdraw gloves maybe? I donno.

[Gias]

引用自 Kilsubub：

This all played out with Everquest. You think they would learn.

They leaned that most players are gullible and believe anti-cheat works. They are saving money by offloading server computation to clients. Sure it allows cheating but you can slap some anti-cheat on top and people believe you it works despite yt videos showing cheaters. GG

[Deliriouz]

Its not a skill issue, its either some kind of awful server client glitch or these people are hacking. They literally dodge every attack especial running away even if they are obviously focus on someone else and you sneak attack them...

[abian]

Maybe intended feature, maybe not intended, maybe bug or even exploit/cheat?
I see another issue. Playing OPR to get artifacts from PvP track last few days I noticed, that fighting in larger groups players seem to dodge multiple attacks easily. It is weird, because these attacks arnt launched simultaneously. These are time-shifted, no doubt about that. I assume, that dodging is a time window and every attack, hitting this "window" counts as "dodged". Maybe I m wrong, but thats how I understand this mechanic. Otherwise it would be designed very badly, which would nt be a suprose since its AGS. The code is awful.

P.S. auto aim, auto dodge, weight hack (saw a player in heavy very tanky making multiple rolls over and over) and so forth. NW is full of bots and seems to drown in hacks and cheats.
AGS?

[Crunktanium]

引用自 abian：

saw a player in heavy very tanky making multiple rolls over and over

Sure you did and I saw Santa fly over my house yesterday on his way back to the North Pole.

[narokusama]

use a dodge bot! solves all pvp problems

[Dan]

引用自 Crunktanium：

引用自 abian：

saw a player in heavy very tanky making multiple rolls over and over

Sure you did and I saw Santa fly over my house yesterday on his way back to the North Pole.

ERrrrrrrr to be fair im a Hev Bruis and im doing the odd roll on a dodge I think somehting is broken tbh. It doesnt happen all the time but im noticing it when it does

[Matos[QC]]

Auto Dodge Hacking is part of the game since a long time and lots of high player and streamers using it too :(