Increasing Crafting skill xp

[Skyz]

What? Just what? It is already a grind to get 200, especially if you do all your crafting solo. With the end game being terribly boring, my sever only capping at 450 and news of crafting skill xp increasing i'm basically done with the game. Which is a shame because it's a good game and with some tweaks and new content could be a real solid game, i've already sunk 350 hours in but the grind is already rough and they're increasing it?

All this change does is benefit those already with 200 crafting skills and punishes those who aren't

[Xype]

引用自 Cpt.Pimp：

♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ idiots, they are patching a wound instead of fixing it.
The only reason they are doing this is because a lot of ppl reached 200 in many professions and are either becoming self sufficient or decreasing prices on the market since more can make them.

The only thing this grind increase does is increase the time it takes to get there and price jumps on the market for a while. But you will eventually end up at the same conclusion.
Ppl will be leveled. Be self sufficient and stuff available on market for a low price again.

Increasing xp is not the solution, not letting people do every job in the game in order to become self sufficient is the better solution.

Anyway, whatev i can't be arsed with it anymore.

right so they are punishing new players and those who had to work with an unfair disadvantage. That is not positive at all. Most of you saying it is don't care because you already have your crafting, which makes it even more unfair.

[Grailer]

is there a point to having GS 600 ?

[Rise Up Lights]

Oh cool, so now to go from 100-150 engineering you have to craft what 2800 steel spears instead of 1870? lol worst crafting in any game period, bar none.

[MoistGamer]

引用自 Madd Moxxi：

Oh cool, so now to go from 100-150 engineering you have to craft what 2800 steel spears instead of 1870? lol worst crafting in any game period, bar none.

This. I've heard the material efficiency for upping your crafting maxes out at the LOWEST LEVEL. Eg. making 10000 wooden shelves to up your furniture is better than making (hypothetically) 10 maple super duper dressers. Because the flux/sp/tannin you use to get the more advanced mats add up.

So - I stand there crafting 10000 shelves, 1000 iron axes, standing there like an idiot scrapping them all and doing it again. Its so boring.

[Kashra Fall]

引用自 Cpt.Pimp：

♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ idiots, they are patching a wound instead of fixing it.
The only reason they are doing this is because a lot of ppl reached 200 in many professions and are either becoming self sufficient or decreasing prices on the market since more can make them.

The only thing this grind increase does is increase the time it takes to get there and price jumps on the market for a while. But you will eventually end up at the same conclusion.
Ppl will be leveled. Be self sufficient and stuff available on market for a low price again.

Increasing xp is not the solution, not letting people do every job in the game in order to become self sufficient is the better solution.

Anyway, whatev i can't be arsed with it anymore.

They are doing ti because people are using easy treks to level professions. Aka linen shirts/hats instead of going down the line and making the harder to make stuff (Which is more exp and less materials.) but it uses reagents. So instead of 330k fiber, you'd now need over 1 million to get from 0-200 if you did it the easy trek way. Where as leveling it with the proper materials would likely be around 500k fiber.

[roar!]

looks like most players cant understand the fix:
they force you to craft the higher level crafts like ori or starmetal weapons, because right now you can level with crafting only iron/steel weapons your way to 200.

after the fix, the starmetal und ori craftings yield 3x/4x more exp and the exp cap for lv200 is also increased by 4x. iron/steel wont be a efficient way to reach 200, because they only yield 1x/2x exp.

leveling to 200 with steel will need 4x the current amout of steel.
leveling to 200 with the highest tier crafting available will change nothing.

[Kashra Fall]

Confirmed.

Higher crafting is going to be good, lower crafting is going to be bad. This is trying to balance out the crafting of higher end gear and using reagents to properly level.

https://www.reddit.com/r/newworldgame/comments/qrb8jj/the_ptr_is_not_making_getting_200_crafting/

Someone broke it down completely.

[ItaAndy]

This game ain't for everyone. This game is not your typical game in where everything falls from the sky. I love the grind, the "griendier" the better.

[stretch]

I don't know when it happened and it could be old news or a stealth nerf but I saw a guide which stated something like '670 maple stain' to go from 150 to 175 furniture. I can promise you that it takes more than 20 times that and still you might not do that so something is borked. Either the website got it wrong or some of the simpler recipes got a huge xp nerf.

Just FYI. It's not a particularly important bit of information.

[Zagbok1]

hahahah suckers, enjoy that grind, sitting on 150k and crafting done, i just sit back and pvp now while i watch people complain and smash their heads against that mind numbing crafting system.

[Kashra Fall]

引用自 Zagbok1：

hahahah suckers, enjoy that grind, sitting on 150k and crafting done, i just sit back and pvp now while i watch people complain and smash their heads against that mind numbing crafting system.

You will have grinded more than they did...that's the point of the change. You get around 3x more exp for the higher tier crafts after the change, where as low tier (Which most people used.) will remain the same.

It takes less materials to make a layer leather shirt (currently.) than it does to make the equivalent coarse leather shirts, but people do the coarse because it is easier/requires no reagents.

[fauxpas]

引用自 Zagbok1：

hahahah suckers, enjoy that grind, sitting on 150k and crafting done, i just sit back and pvp now while i watch people complain and smash their heads against that mind numbing crafting system.

Until the inevitable server wipes. 😉

[Dyspeptic Icarus]

引用自 ~ringringHello?：

looks like most players cant understand the fix:
they force you to craft the higher level crafts like ori or starmetal weapons, because right now you can level with crafting only iron/steel weapons your way to 200.

after the fix, the starmetal und ori craftings yield 3x/4x more exp and the exp cap for lv200 is also increased by 4x. iron/steel wont be a efficient way to reach 200, because they only yield 1x/2x exp.

leveling to 200 with steel will need 4x the current amout of steel.
leveling to 200 with the highest tier crafting available will change nothing.

Are they gonna make all other sources of leveling slower as well? Otherwise, it'll be absolutely pointless to level crafting skills. If townboards remain the same; it'll be spam dungeons, bosses, etc to gain equipment, and patchwork it into a kit.

Then go straight into townboards on lv 1 spawn. It'll be even worse than now.

[Kashra Fall]

引用自 Vambrace：

As soon as I read this it killed my desire to play the game. there are people out there have maxed all their crafting skills...Some of them with the benefit of gold dupe (hand me downs), exploits and game bugs not to mention legit game changes like massive increases in Mat drops from chests that was later reverted.

Meanwhile people that play the game at a normal pace (let's just say less then 8hrs a day) will now get a huge slap in the face and be set even further behind people that "no lifed" the game up front by n less than the game development team...

Would this have been fine Pre-launch...yes.
Would it be fine to increase craft skill XP for 200 to 250 w/ new recipes...yes.
Is it ok to do this now which gives people who maxed their skills before the XP hike....No absolutely not.

Its not a question if this is a good change (maybe it is) it's a question of how/when it's implemented and how those effect the current player base.

If they just drop this in on a patch its a buster move that I won't abide.

? They are increasing the required EXP to stop people from spamming low materials to max out crafting. If you go up in the tiers aka Tier 2-5 instead of sticking at tier 1 the entire way, it does not and will not affect you and will infact, be faster than the way people who grinded earlier did it. You will just be using refining reagents to do it (As it should of been from the get go.) Getting almost 18k for a craft will be better than 420 for a craft.

[WiseCog]

引用自 Kashra Fall：

引用自 Vambrace：

As soon as I read this it killed my desire to play the game. there are people out there have maxed all their crafting skills...Some of them with the benefit of gold dupe (hand me downs), exploits and game bugs not to mention legit game changes like massive increases in Mat drops from chests that was later reverted.

Meanwhile people that play the game at a normal pace (let's just say less then 8hrs a day) will now get a huge slap in the face and be set even further behind people that "no lifed" the game up front by n less than the game development team...

Would this have been fine Pre-launch...yes.
Would it be fine to increase craft skill XP for 200 to 250 w/ new recipes...yes.
Is it ok to do this now which gives people who maxed their skills before the XP hike....No absolutely not.

Its not a question if this is a good change (maybe it is) it's a question of how/when it's implemented and how those effect the current player base.

If they just drop this in on a patch its a buster move that I won't abide.

? They are increasing the required EXP to stop people from spamming low materials to max out crafting. If you go up in the tiers aka Tier 2-5 instead of sticking at tier 1 the entire way, it does not and will not affect you and will infact, be faster than the way people who grinded earlier did it. You will just be using refining reagents to do it (As it should of been from the get go.) Getting almost 18k for a craft will be better than 420 for a craft.

It will not be faster. It will be slower. Not by much, but it will be slower. Not only do you have to melt down ore and everything, you will ahve to gather MORE items. Iron-steel-starmetal-oricalchum and so on.
Saying it will be quicker is wrong.