Making money

[Archangel Azrael]

As a new player how do i make money on an older server.

[Etny2k]

If I were in your shoes I would buckle up for mass farming. Fill all cheap orders. Trees, ores, ingots, fibers. On the new server I am making lots of money by fishing.

[ingosupercute]

Originally posted by Etny2k:

On the new server I am making lots of money by fishing.

He is asking for the old servers. You can make money on new servers with just about anything, because everybody is still leveling their life skills and gear. Once the market has been saturated on the older worlds, you can't do that anymore.

[Foxglovez]

look at what's for sale on your server that isn't a lower price than makes sense, something you can make or farm. Don't fight the bots over simple resources. Being on an old server, you're kind of way too late but there might be a niche for you if you look hard enough.

Even the new servers, well USWest anyway is already taken over by the old guard. New players are so anxious to make money on low level stuff they're just undercutting themselves so the race to the bottom on pricing is crazy. The whole player economy is problematic in this game. It's just set up badly and there's not even an NPC to buy junk, you have to just drop stuff on the ground if you can't salvage it and salvaging is really poor. Don't play the game for the money, it'll just make you sad and cranky.

[ingosupercute]

Originally posted by Foxglovez:

The whole player economy is problematic in this game.

True. It's a downward spiral that does not factor in the human component. The only way to beat the system is to not buy anything, sell a lot, don't spend the money you've made and in a few weeks when the prices are low buy the stuff you wanted like bags, tools, furniture that kind of things - they'll be super affordable soon enough. Buying now is being milked by experienced players.

With the exception of certain things that were cheap at first because new players didn't know what to do with them and people didn't need it right away. But that window of opportunity is already closed by now.

[The Craziest Cat Lady]

Resource farming. That will also level you actually.

[Foxglovez]

Look at prices for resources sweetie. They are already dirt cheap and at quantities only available because our friendly legacy player bots are back. That general window is closed already and with the end of the new player influx the lower tier stuff is as noted by Ingo above we will be able to go get those tools for the next few weeks. They will dry up too and so the end of the economy, like the legacy ones now is that there is very little for sale, no one to buy much of anything as nothing deteriorates in the game.

With no deterioration you only buy a tool once, clothing, weapons, and use them for the rest of your life on the game at that particular level. Add to that too many valuable drops in game make crafting pretty useless. It's an issue current MMOs, some survival games just don't deal with but it means there is no circular system which would make crafting somewhat worth it. But that's an illusion as folks want to prance around in 725 gear you can only get from a couple sources. So, why are we crafting? Not for end game.

Midgame is the only area where there normally is a good ongoing sales opportunity in this kind of game but if there is not a continual influx of players to offset the continual attrition then you have what NW fights with and has since day one. They don't add new content often enough (once in 3 yrs, what a joke) to interest new players on an ongoing basis. Economies can only remain healthy with a decent middle class. The poor don't count, the rich don't need it. (sound much like rl?) Now it just all runs downhill into the hands of the legacy players who smile sweetly as they push those digital wheelbarrows to the bank.

You can make enough to get a couple houses through the MSQ but that dries up at the end of the story line. It's another reason the game just doesn't work for the long term. I wont even go into the faction foolishness re crafting, selling. Total leech system. lol

[Archangel Azrael]

Thank you all