Is going back to this worth it without the DLC?

[Kenjjoo]

I'm thinking about coming back to this game, but I just don't know if it's worth going back in without having mounts. I would upgrade to the deluxe edition to get the bear mount, but upgrading your edition isn't possible for some reason. So, any feedback regarding if this game is worth coming back to is appreciated. Last time I played I was around level 40 I believe.

Also, what about the optimization? My pc isn't exactly weak, but I remember having around 40fps in cities, even if they were mostly empty - on low/medium settings @ 2560x1080 resolution.

rtx 4060ti 8gb, i7 11700f 8/16 5.1ghz, 2x16gb 3200mhz ram, game was installed on an nvme 3500/3000 drive.

[CirceTheSiren]

i allways fetch any dlc for a favorite game i play on a daily base asap without the need to question about it, unless a very likely discount is to be exspected within less of a week.

as leveling in new world is counted in weeks rather than months like in other traditional MMO like Everquest 2(without using a token to skip that)if you insist to multilquest without skipping dialoges.

the question "when" is not months later as elsewhere when an dlc had advantages for a newplayer is almost impossible to not reach Level 20 during a weekend now.

but i think you can just test your performance even without buying the dlc yet and can enjoy playing for awhile or longer as you stil have to dismount for fighting and gathering.

i believe sometimes next year some discount wont be considered a little bit scummy for the people that were urged to pay the full price until october 15th the last few months.

but who knows ags could still chose to present a xmas surprise for discount gamblers and the hallowenn events on steam are not over yet completely, chances are not zero though less than fifty percent for a gambler more than enough maybe.

not a very few from the late buyers bothered enough to support a favorite game after spending hundreds of hours in big distress troubles would at least think about a partial refund almost forced to pay more than people that bargained for an unlikely discount since months, so short after getting fullcash also from console players.

numbers are no longer desperatly low as before during months of silence except some trailers.

people that can afford a gaming rig to handle new world wont go suddenly bankrott with spending like 30 buck, only once since a year being available unless have made serious mistakes with jobs or education years ago in real life, if living in most parts from Europe or USA at least.

exceptions cant be solved here on a steamforum.

[Kenjjoo]

Originally posted by CirceTheSiren:

i allways fetch any dlc for a favorite game i play on a daily base asap without the need to question about it, unless a very likely discount is to be exspected within less of a week.

as leveling in new world is counted in weeks rather than months like in other traditional MMO like Everquest 2(without using a token to skip that)if you insist to multilquest without skipping dialoges.

the question "when" is not months later as elsewhere when an dlc had advantages for a newplayer is almost impossible to not reach Level 20 during a weekend now.

but i think you can just test your performance even without buying the dlc yet and can enjoy playing for awhile or longer as you stil have to dismount for fighting and gathering.

i believe sometimes next year some discount wont be considered a little bit scummy for the people that were urged to pay the full price until october 15th the last few months.

but who knows ags could still chose to present a xmas surprise for discount gamblers and the hallowenn events on steam are not over yet completely, chances are not zero though less than fifty percent for a gambler more than enough maybe.

not a very few from the late buyers bothered enough support a favorite game after spending hundreds of hours in big troubles would at least think about a partial refund almost forced to pay more than people that bargained for an unlikely discount since months, so short after getting fullcash also from console players.

numbers are no longer desperatly low as before during months of silence except some trailers.

people that can afford a gaming rig to handle new world wont go suddenly bankrott with spending like 30 buck, only once since a year being available unless have made serious mistakes with jobs or education years ago in real life, if living in most parts from Europe or USA at least.

exceptions cant be solved here on a steamforum.

I already spent a lot of money on games these past few weeks and I'm not going to whip out 30€ just so I can ride a mount in a game. I was simply asking if the game is worth coming back to without having a mount, that's all. If you think 30€ for a mount is fine, then good for you, however I don't think so. I could maybe get the dlc when it will be at at least a 50% discount, but with how the player count is dropping the last few days, I don't see the game holding out for much longer. From 55K daily since the 20th of last month to 37K daily is quite a drop, not to mention the history of the game having only around 7K daily.

[CirceTheSiren]

Originally posted by Kenjjoo:

Originally posted by CirceTheSiren:

i allways fetch any dlc for a favorite game i play on a daily base asap without the need to question about it, unless a very likely discount is to be exspected within less of a week.

as leveling in new world is counted in weeks rather than months like in other traditional MMO like Everquest 2(without using a token to skip that)if you insist to multilquest without skipping dialoges.

the question "when" is not months later as elsewhere when an dlc had advantages for a newplayer is almost impossible to not reach Level 20 during a weekend now.

but i think you can just test your performance even without buying the dlc yet and can enjoy playing for awhile or longer as you stil have to dismount for fighting and gathering.

i believe sometimes next year some discount wont be considered a little bit scummy for the people that were urged to pay the full price until october 15th the last few months.

but who knows ags could still chose to present a xmas surprise for discount gamblers and the hallowenn events on steam are not over yet completely, chances are not zero though less than fifty percent for a gambler more than enough maybe.

not a very few from the late buyers bothered enough support a favorite game after spending hundreds of hours in big troubles would at least think about a partial refund almost forced to pay more than people that bargained for an unlikely discount since months, so short after getting fullcash also from console players.

numbers are no longer desperatly low as before during months of silence except some trailers.

people that can afford a gaming rig to handle new world wont go suddenly bankrott with spending like 30 buck, only once since a year being available unless have made serious mistakes with jobs or education years ago in real life, if living in most parts from Europe or USA at least.

exceptions cant be solved here on a steamforum.

I already spent a lot of money on games these past few weeks and I'm not going to whip out 30€ just so I can ride a mount in a game. I was simply asking if the game is worth coming back to without having a mount, that's all. If you think 30€ for a mount is fine, then good for you, however I don't think so. I could maybe get the dlc when it will be at at least a 50% discount, but with how the player count is dropping the last few days, I don't see the game holding out for much longer. From 55K daily since the 20th of last month to 37K daily is quite a drop, not to mention the history of the game having only around 7K daily.

i never said spending 30 buck for just a mount is fine.
its decent because you also get the flail that allows me to solo bosses unbeatable before with gearscore 625, that i was not able to block without the flail as a non-physical dps-player to avoid getting ragdolled with only a voidgaunlet as a batlemage, with only minimal strenght or dexterity to using a greatsword or sword and shield for facetaking nasty mobs

gettings Access to Gearscore 700 since months enabling to soloclear brimstone sands even with almost nobody else online except the daily zero challlege chestrun zergflashmob.

elitechest and hunting named that often respawn within a very few minutes without great hussle as the few level 60 returners what stil run around always low on health.

and many more like artifacts and heartrune as sevent weaponskill, that saved my ass during many duells with badass named elitebosses, i no longer need any number more than just my toon nearby to get serious stuff done.

,playercount only count for marketplace madness on legacy and with so much people having unfixed issue with soultrial after last patches number are still relativly medium high enough even as ags has not bothered to reveal the a new roadmap.

numbers change like a tidalwave when to slow with fixes they will drecrase nothing special.

i prefer to play solo so i dont care for leavers they have left in the past and will leave as soon problems wont get fixed they are relyable as the sand in the desert.

a lot of other games want even more for an dlc not stopping with 50 buckss when not on sale so 30 bucks are not so much overpriced.

i dont care where your spend your money and you can just return now and decide later you will get anything until level 60 for free no need to rush after release.

[Shuwayze]

I wouldn't get back into the game if the entire game wasn't available to me. At 20 you get a mount with the DLC and it seems it be a huge difference when getting to nodes and beating other players to areas. DLC also unlocks 5 more levels and the endgame zone Elysian Wilds where a lot of the artifacts are found and quests to level them up are.
IF you're ok with just being capped at 60 and never doing endgame PvE and *PvP ( most companies will only take level 65 players and I don't think you can queue for arena and OPR at level 60), and being slow at getting around and losing possible resource nodes from others then by all means.

[GrailQuest]

Useless either way. MSQ will probably bug for you like many other people, with some MSQ Trial boss not even showing up so you'll be stuck. And that's pre-DLC content.

Also AGS apparently still not addressing exploits and cheaters in a timely manner, so PvP is worthless.

And if you like crafting... it'll take you a long time and a lot of mats to make a halfway decent 650 purple or legendary item. But meanwhile you can just go farm some weak-ass mob for something even better every few minutes when it respawns.

[Kenjjoo]

Originally posted by GrailQuest:

Useless either way. MSQ will probably bug for you like many other people, with some MSQ Trial boss not even showing up so you'll be stuck. And that's pre-DLC content.

Also AGS apparently still not addressing exploits and cheaters in a timely manner, so PvP is worthless.

And if you like crafting... it'll take you a long time and a lot of mats to make a halfway decent 650 purple or legendary item. But meanwhile you can just go farm some weak-ass mob for something even better every few minutes when it respawns.

I always liked grind, if it was reasonable and the drop percentages were actually right. As for PVP, I've no interest in that, so I'm fine on that front.

I guess I'll just wait for the DLC to be discounted at least a bit before coming back to this game.

[yveH]

Originally posted by Kenjjoo:

I'm thinking about coming back to this game, but I just don't know if it's worth going back in without having mounts. I would upgrade to the deluxe edition to get the bear mount, but upgrading your edition isn't possible for some reason. So, any feedback regarding if this game is worth coming back to is appreciated. Last time I played I was around level 40 I believe.

Also, what about the optimization? My pc isn't exactly weak, but I remember having around 40fps in cities, even if they were mostly empty - on low/medium settings @ 2560x1080 resolution.

rtx 4060ti 8gb, i7 11700f 8/16 5.1ghz, 2x16gb 3200mhz ram, game was installed on an nvme 3500/3000 drive.

The game isn't worth it regardless.

[vicbos]

I restarted just recently. At first I wasn't planning on buying the DLC and you can still have quite a bit of fun without it but once I hit about level 50, I realized they did such a good job improving the game (there is actual lore now and the grind is reasonable) that I decided to "reward them" by buying the DLC.

[Shazoo]

Originally posted by Kenjjoo:

I'm thinking about coming back to this game, but I just don't know if it's worth going back in without having mounts. I would upgrade to the deluxe edition to get the bear mount, but upgrading your edition isn't possible for some reason. So, any feedback regarding if this game is worth coming back to is appreciated. Last time I played I was around level 40 I believe.

Also, what about the optimization? My pc isn't exactly weak, but I remember having around 40fps in cities, even if they were mostly empty - on low/medium settings @ 2560x1080 resolution.

rtx 4060ti 8gb, i7 11700f 8/16 5.1ghz, 2x16gb 3200mhz ram, game was installed on an nvme 3500/3000 drive.

I think you probably answered your own question, its the same game almost. I played to level cap back after release and enjoyed it but there wasn't enough to keep me playing being a PVE only player. You run the world tour a few times, do some events, and put it down. What you would be coming back to is essentially the same, with some updates like a dungeon finder mechanism that works on the higher population servers and takes longer in the lower pop servers (legacy). The leveling seems faster than it was previously, probably because they wanted players to get to the higher levels faster, so at least you'll get those 40-60 pretty quick (usually a level per main story quest or two). I remember going from level 15-35 in a couple hours to be able to do the halloween event, then doing 35-50 the next day in a few more hours. Then a few days later I was able to do 50-61 in the next sit down session. Level 61-65 took a few more sessions though.

TLDR: if you enjoy the main gameplay loop, start on a FSS and enjoy leveling with all the other new and console players while the population is still there. You don't need the DLC, but its worth it imo if you do.

[vicbos]

Originally posted by Shazoo:

Originally posted by Kenjjoo:

I'm thinking about coming back to this game, but I just don't know if it's worth going back in without having mounts. I would upgrade to the deluxe edition to get the bear mount, but upgrading your edition isn't possible for some reason. So, any feedback regarding if this game is worth coming back to is appreciated. Last time I played I was around level 40 I believe.

Also, what about the optimization? My pc isn't exactly weak, but I remember having around 40fps in cities, even if they were mostly empty - on low/medium settings @ 2560x1080 resolution.

rtx 4060ti 8gb, i7 11700f 8/16 5.1ghz, 2x16gb 3200mhz ram, game was installed on an nvme 3500/3000 drive.

I think you probably answered your own question, its the same game almost. I played to level cap back after release and enjoyed it but there wasn't enough to keep me playing being a PVE only player. You run the world tour a few times, do some events, and put it down. What you would be coming back to is essentially the same, with some updates like a dungeon finder mechanism that works on the higher population servers and takes longer in the lower pop servers (legacy). The leveling seems faster than it was previously, probably because they wanted players to get to the higher levels faster, so at least you'll get those 40-60 pretty quick (usually a level per main story quest or two). I remember going from level 15-35 in a couple hours to be able to do the halloween event, then doing 35-50 the next day in a few more hours. Then a few days later I was able to do 50-61 in the next sit down session. Level 61-65 took a few more sessions though.

TLDR: if you enjoy the main gameplay loop, start on a FSS and enjoy leveling with all the other new and console players while the population is still there. You don't need the DLC, but its worth it imo if you do.

Agree that leveling is a lot better and less grindy now but I think you are forgetting one of the best improvements -- you now pick a player class at the beginning AND there is an a new and entertaining leveling main quest now with LOTS of cut scenes and explanations of the lore (something that was missing in the original game). Originally the grind/main story was annoying but now it is actually interesting. Feels like a different game (even the land marks often changed).

[ferncamper]

Its worth not comming back anyway... with or without the DLC except you have cocnitive deficites like all the people who thinik that this stone age rng rewarding system is great.... rofl... i quit today becaues it was even not possible to find a group to enjoy the new raid and finding a group and doing the raid is like waiting 30 min to get the group seeing all the people dying already from trash mobs than do not play the mechanic even if explained and the same people than are leaving the raid because the rest of the people are too bad and than you have to invest another bunch of minutes to fine new people... over and over and over again.... in my opinion the most bad investment of lifetime ever. Oh and btw which brilliant idea was it to give gear with GS below 700 in an area which is clearly designed for 700+ ? This is really stupid. Btw. RNG loot is the most oldest mechanic you can go with developpers maybe you should change that....

[yveH]

Originally posted by vicbos:

I restarted just recently. At first I wasn't planning on buying the DLC and you can still have quite a bit of fun without it but once I hit about level 50, I realized they did such a good job improving the game (there is actual lore now and the grind is reasonable) that I decided to "reward them" by buying the DLC.

Just so you can get to the end and have nothing to do and quit.

[Óld_Ṡmeister]

Originally posted by Shuwayze:

I wouldn't get back into the game if the entire game wasn't available to me. At 20 you get a mount with the DLC and it seems it be a huge difference when getting to nodes and beating other players to areas. DLC also unlocks 5 more levels and the endgame zone Elysian Wilds where a lot of the artifacts are found and quests to level them up are.
IF you're ok with just being capped at 60 and never doing endgame PvE and *PvP ( most companies will only take level 65 players and I don't think you can queue for arena and OPR at level 60), and being slow at getting around and losing possible resource nodes from others then by all means.

"At 20 you get a mount with the DLC and it seems it be a huge difference when getting to nodes and beating other players to areas."

That right there explains fully how truly garbage the community in this game is. This one recommends the dlc for a mount so you "beat other players to resource nodes and other areas" wow....no that is truly all you need to know about the community of this game. Absolute ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ garbage.

[vicbos]

Originally posted by yveh:

Originally posted by vicbos:

I restarted just recently. At first I wasn't planning on buying the DLC and you can still have quite a bit of fun without it but once I hit about level 50, I realized they did such a good job improving the game (there is actual lore now and the grind is reasonable) that I decided to "reward them" by buying the DLC.

Just so you can get to the end and have nothing to do and quit.

Well I'd argue that is an issue with a lot of these games. I haven't played for several years but I do remember the Guild battles, etc provided some entertainment once you capped but yeah after a period of time it did run out of steam for me. All I'm saying is that they revamped it enough (even without DLC) that it feels quite "new and different" where I'm having fun just playing the main mission. Probably after some time I will tire again of it but for now it is two thumbs up.
Regarding the original post, I'd say it is a no brainer if you already own the game -- just give it a shot and I suspect you will be pleasantly surprised how much it did change/improve (quit listening to folks focusing on one aspect or the other of the game that isn't perfect... what is nowadays?)

[vicbos]

Originally posted by napkinfactory:

Originally posted by Óld_Ṡmeister:

That right there explains fully how truly garbage the community in this game is. This one recommends the dlc for a mount so you "beat other players to resource nodes and other areas" wow....no that is truly all you need to know about the community of this game. Absolute ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ garbage.

you on the other hand are an absolute ray of sunshine

lol, everyone has a right to their opinions but some of these negative reviews cause me to think of the posters foaming at the mouth. Once again, is the game perfect - nope... Is it still pretty good/fun and did they make positive improvements - yep
Worth starting a new toon and playing the quest again.