Light Rapier/Fire Staff build

[Goodkat]

Hello, I currently play this build for leveling, but i heard a lot it is not viable at max level because heavy armor is mandatory for pvp.. Is there some way to make it work at max lvl ?

[Goodkat]

[StargateSG9]

Go it your way. Its your Game exp. in the End is up to your Skills.

[Ommamar]

I don't think anything is mandatory but some builds are better at certain things then others. I am guessing you are using light armor so basically you are a magic user who has some melee skill with a weapon that excels at 1vs1 damage. So you are just going to be naturally squishy it doesn't mean you have no role to play in PvP or can't be a help to your side of the battle. Of course if you just rush in trying to engage everyone with a build like that you are probably going to be respawning a lot.

[DownSouth05]

I use the same combo on an alt character and I wear a mixture of light and medium armor so I can at least dodge some attacks. Its a nightmare to solo IMO and only viable in PVP if I am in a group. Trying to solo PVP is just not happening for me as any caster, be it a damage dealer or a healer, there is not crowd control of any sort in the builds. So, once a melee closes with you, you are dead!

[Komarimaru]

It's great as long as wearing all light armor for the bonus. It's a hit and run build though, not meant for toe to toe battles. But with proper coordination, taking advantage of terrain and the like, you can counter to do some great damage quickly then retreat to wait for CD's again.

[Goodkat]

Yes I play with Light bonuses and so far it is great, for max level i intend to do small scale pvp only but some wars too, thanks for your answers.

[Mango]

You can play your build in heavy armor for pvp.

Also, fire staff is a range weapon, and rapier have tobs of dodge an iframes, so if you are good with your timing and positioning you can play pvp on light armor.

[warrickbartley]

light is better for magic i reckon 20% damage buff and full role to dodge, just try to keep a bit of distance from your enemy, im playing fire and life , i think its a good combo, and was recommenced by a top YouTube player as being the strongest build late game, fire staff wreaks after LV 50 and life is good for quick Strong heals.

[Zalzany]

They talking about ENEMIES wearing heavy and yes I seen a lot of youtubers and people saying they swapped from rapier because heavy armor wearing OPPONETS not them are using things like a great axe and the reach is to much, they can riposte and not hit with out moving closer because the axes range is longer then the rapiers. Also heavy armor makes it take more to kill them.

Key thing if you want to do it this way is to KITE your in light they are in heavy use your rolling, and your movement abilties with rapier to keep them at a distance then hit them with range attacks, this works little better with a musket or a bow though.

[NemesisofdaCancelPigs]

its early in the game.
when folk realize crafting plays a huge role in pvp, things will change.
rifles/bows, bullets/arrows, potions, food, suddenly will change wars.
seems you must have banned all the folks who know this.
or we didnt buy because we knew we would be banned, lol.

[Mepho]

Originally posted by Zalzany:

They talking about ENEMIES wearing heavy and yes I seen a lot of youtubers and people saying they swapped from rapier because heavy armor wearing OPPONETS not them are using things like a great axe and the reach is to much, they can riposte and not hit with out moving closer because the axes range is longer then the rapiers. Also heavy armor makes it take more to kill them.

Key thing if you want to do it this way is to KITE your in light they are in heavy use your rolling, and your movement abilties with rapier to keep them at a distance then hit them with range attacks, this works little better with a musket or a bow though.

But you just said the rapier is outranged, how can you kite if your attacks have less reach than the guy you're supposedly kiting?

I'm leveling as rapier/gauntlet but day after day I get more reasons to change entirely.
The deflect and counter more often then not doesn't deflect and I still get the damage, the quickstep (whatever it's called, first grace tree ability) does the exact same (most of the time I get damaged anyway) and is only good as an animation cancel, the gauntlet has the pillar bug and the passive that gives mana after 3 quick hits is bugged as well, I tried the first passive for the spherical aoe which supposedly increases damage on targets lower than 50% and it doesn't seem to do anything.

If you're telling me that the counter isn't even landing in pvp because of short range I have to wonder if I miserably failed in choosing my weapons.

[Ommamar]

"If you're telling me that the counter isn't even landing in pvp because of short range I have to wonder if I miserably failed in choosing my weapons."-Mepho

One good thing about New World is it is pretty easy to swap weapons around so if the current set up isn't working or you see downfalls with your style in the future try out a different combo.

[Mepho]

Originally posted by Ommamar:

"If you're telling me that the counter isn't even landing in pvp because of short range I have to wonder if I miserably failed in choosing my weapons."-Mepho

One good thing about New World is it is pretty easy to swap weapons around so if the current set up isn't working or you see downfalls with your style in the future try out a different combo.

I understand what you mean, but what can I expect from the rest if this is what both my weapons are at? Is it only these 2 that are so borked and I was just really unlucky?

But most of all, I see you didn't argue with it, am I actually wasting my time on these and should I switch already? What do you suggest? Didn't seem to me any other weapon has similar mechanics. :\

[Goodkat]

Glad to read that, i was worried that a light armor build based on kiting and some pikes with rapier wasnt viable at high level..