New World vs Ashes of Creation

[Grailer]

I think AOC will be more popular for the pvp crowd since you can attack anyone .

[Veeshan]

引用自 Lord Haart：

One of the primary aspects that players evaluate in any MMORPG is its gameplay mechanics. Ashes of Creation introduces dynamic node systems and player-driven narratives, aiming to create a living, breathing world that evolves based on player actions. While this concept is intriguing, the implementation raises concerns.

Firstly, the dynamic node system, meant to allow players to influence the world's development, often feels artificial and lacks the depth promised during the game's development. The impact of player decisions seems minimal, leading to a sense of disconnection from the game world.

Moreover, the game's combat system, touted as action-oriented, feels clunky and unresponsive. Animation canceling issues, skill delays, and a lack of fluidity contribute to a less-than-ideal combat experience. This is a critical factor considering combat is a central element in any MMORPG, and Ashes of Creation's shortcomings in this area hamper the overall enjoyment of the game.

Technical Issues and Bugginess:

A notable concern surrounding Ashes of Creation is the abundance of technical issues and bugs that hinder the gaming experience. Many players have reported frequent crashes, server instability, and performance problems, making the game far from the polished experience one would expect from a title in its development stage.

The alpha and beta phases, meant to iron out such issues, have seemingly fallen short of addressing the plethora of reported bugs. From quest-breaking glitches to graphical anomalies, the game's technical state raises questions about its readiness for a wider audience.

Comparisons with Similar Games:

To gain a comprehensive perspective on Ashes of Creation's standing within the MMORPG genre, it is essential to compare it to other games in its ilk, such as World of Warcraft, Final Fantasy XIV, and Guild Wars 2.

World of Warcraft, despite being an older title, boasts a polished and refined experience. Its extensive content, well-established lore, and consistent updates set a high standard for any aspiring MMORPG. In contrast, Ashes of Creation, in its current state, struggles to offer a similarly immersive and stable gaming environment.

Final Fantasy XIV, known for its engaging storytelling, diverse classes, and well-crafted dungeons, stands as a formidable competitor. Ashes of Creation's narrative ambitions fall short in comparison, with its dynamic node system lacking the depth and impact that players experience in the evolving world of Eorzea.

Guild Wars 2, celebrated for its dynamic events and exploration-focused gameplay, highlights another area where Ashes of Creation struggles. The promised dynamic node system fails to create a world that feels truly alive and responsive to player actions, leaving it trailing behind more established titles in the genre.

To be fair new world still has a plethora of bugs still in the game since day 1 of the game.
some off the top of my head
Musket miss fires where it will think it shoots but no bullet comes out of it and you reload and skills goes on cooldown
OPR barrier occasioanly bug and u cant use the f key on them to get through them anymore so u could end up stuck starting area unable to escape randomly in the game
Muskets trap CD is buggy as hell when u have 2 stack of a skill and the CD only starts when u use last trap and the skill count doesnt reset to 2 uses on death so u can respawn with a single use and have to throw it to start the timer

[Dirty Mike]

bro what gamers have been complaining about it? it hasn't even come out, if you're referring to the alpha that came out 2 years ago. How are you going to compare that to current gameplay footage which has drastically improved. THat was a wild ass long post of nothing. What quest breaking bugs, again the game isn't even out and they're only showing developmental updates xD

[The Time Traveler]

引用自 Dr.God：

Haha. Ashes has absolutely nothing on New World.

By the time aoc releases, New World will have added enough content to claim its throne as the #1 MMO of all time.

Trust me. I've never been wrong about New World. This is only the beginning.

i recall pearl abyss making billions from Black Desert. New World is ...where in the positive incomes?

[DIRTYBOMB]

Aoc is dead on arrival just like every pvp mmo. The only comparable game is throne and liberty.

[NashEquil]

Ashes of Creation will take 25-30 years to release. They make too much money from people pouring stupid supporter money into an unfinished game. It uses the "Scam Citizen" model of selling garbage and supporter packs for an unfinished game.

So New World wins.

[FoxHound]

引用自 Veeshan：

引用自 sixer_style：

We can continue to talk in 2028, AOC has been announced for this year

Well A2 is coming next year (First half it seems) and already more content than New world it seems in alpha state :P

It does not take much for a MMO to release with more content than NW. Even the ♥♥♥♥♥♥ Korean/Japanese MMO release with more content, and still fail..

[FaZe Fed0Ra]

引用自 Dr.God：

Haha. Ashes has absolutely nothing on New World.

By the time aoc releases, New World will have added enough content to claim its throne as the #1 MMO of all time.

Trust me. I've never been wrong about New World. This is only the beginning.

Well that aged well LERMAO

[Mellowfungus]

Some New World Shills aren't that clever...

There was a guy here claiming recent reviews are at 80%.

Right...I'm literally looking at the Steam store page which has recent reviews at an average of 68%, and I know its been there for awhile (Was even 67% at one point).

The expansion is sitting very comfortably at mid 50's.

Just like a pothead, New World shills have ruined their minds by smoking large amounts of copium to convince themselves this game is anything but forgotten ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥.

[Crunktanium]

引用自 Mellowfungus：

to convince themselves this game is anything but forgotten

You sure haven't forgotten and seem to be highly interested in keeping up with this forgotten dogchit.

[Cody]

引用自 Grailer：

I think AOC will be more popular for the pvp crowd since you can attack anyone .

I think we should wait for AOC to actually come out before we start making blank claims.

[zeusbloodsworth]

Ashes of Failure is more like it. They created this breath taking environment meanwhile, their spells animations look like chewed up blobs of bubble gum they pulled from world of warcraft. It's pathetic. I lost interest in Ashes when they still haven't put the game into testing for everyone after 3 decades. Too little, too late.

[zeusbloodsworth]

引用自 Mellowfungus：

Some New World Shills aren't that clever...

There was a guy here claiming recent reviews are at 80%.

Right...I'm literally looking at the Steam store page which has recent reviews at an average of 68%, and I know its been there for awhile (Was even 67% at one point).

The expansion is sitting very comfortably at mid 50's.

Just like a pothead, New World shills have ruined their minds by smoking large amounts of copium to convince themselves this game is anything but forgotten ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥.

New World Live Player Users -
Online Players (1H) 44,588
Active Players (30D) 2,005,051
Twitch Watched Hours (30D) 4,119,349
Peak Viewers (30D) 142,712

Month Average Monthly Players Monthly Gain / Loss Monthly Gain / Loss % Active Players Daily
Last 30 Days: (2,005,051) {1,253,138} (167.00%) 133,670
Octobe 01, 2023: 751,913 130,497 21.00 50,128

Doing much better than you think. :)

[TempOHs]

If AoC has the same attack system as New World I'm not going to like it, gotta have a skill bar for me or combat system like Black Desert tbh. Game looks beautiful, definitely going to give it a try.

[Mellowfungus]

引用自 zeusbloodsworth：

引用自 Mellowfungus：

Some New World Shills aren't that clever...

There was a guy here claiming recent reviews are at 80%.

Right...I'm literally looking at the Steam store page which has recent reviews at an average of 68%, and I know its been there for awhile (Was even 67% at one point).

The expansion is sitting very comfortably at mid 50's.

Just like a pothead, New World shills have ruined their minds by smoking large amounts of copium to convince themselves this game is anything but forgotten ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥.

New World Live Player Users -
Online Players (1H) 44,588
Active Players (30D) 2,005,051
Twitch Watched Hours (30D) 4,119,349
Peak Viewers (30D) 142,712

Month Average Monthly Players Monthly Gain / Loss Monthly Gain / Loss % Active Players Daily
Last 30 Days: (2,005,051) {1,253,138} (167.00%) 133,670
Octobe 01, 2023: 751,913 130,497 21.00 50,128

Doing much better than you think. :)

That wasn't the metric that was being brought up by my post, I was literally talking about New World shills FLAT OUT lying about the games reviews.

Then for some reason, you bring up completely different metrics to convince yourself the game is fine, and those numbers aren't even true. Where did you get 44.588 live online players? What, that many players an hour ago? what are you doing?...

[Mellowfungus]

引用自 Mellowfungus：

引用自 zeusbloodsworth：

New World Live Player Users -
Online Players (1H) 44,588
Active Players (30D) 2,005,051
Twitch Watched Hours (30D) 4,119,349
Peak Viewers (30D) 142,712

Month Average Monthly Players Monthly Gain / Loss Monthly Gain / Loss % Active Players Daily
Last 30 Days: (2,005,051) {1,253,138} (167.00%) 133,670
Octobe 01, 2023: 751,913 130,497 21.00 50,128

Doing much better than you think. :)

That wasn't the metric that was being brought up by my post, I was literally talking about New World shills FLAT OUT lying about the games reviews.

Then for some reason, you bring up completely different metrics to convince yourself the game is fine, and those numbers aren't even true. Where did you get 44.588 live online players? What, that many players an hour ago? what are you doing?...

Less people came back for the game "Great big Expansion" then they did for the free content. Ergo, you can't convince people to spend additional funds on the game.

Give it a few more months, the player-base will hit a new time record low....again. Then will be dealing with the same people saying "The game is going to make a comeback".