New World: Aeternum

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Moist Butt Nov 3, 2021 @ 3:45pm
Can you get banned from the hatchet 300% damage "exploit"
Anyone got banned from this? I am against exploits and i don't try to reproduce it, but the issue with this "exploit" is that it is so easy to reproduce. I have been using hatchet from the start and its stupid that ppl now have a valid reason to report me just for using a weapon i have always used. This isn't something you have control over like the fire staff machine gun exploit or the defying death bug.
Originally posted by Odd World:
Originally posted by Moist Butt:
Ppl are quick to judge. Many of u probably think i intentionally exploit this bug, but here i am offering actual useful solution. I dont see how forcing players to stop using a weapon is a better fix than disabling the perk that is causing this whole mess.


Group Scaling Passives: Fixed issues which could cause passive effects that scaled on the number of nearby foes, such as Bloodlust (Great Axe), Against All Odds (Hatchet), and Outnumbered (Warhammer), to apply incorrectly.

https://www.newworld.com/en-us/news/articles/new-world-update-1-0-5
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Cpt.P1mp Nov 3, 2021 @ 3:51pm 
no
fauxpas Nov 3, 2021 @ 3:53pm 
Haven't heard any reports and the common wisdom says it's too widespread to punish; although it's theorically possible that it might be added onto the pile if they are looking to ban you anyways.
stretch Nov 3, 2021 @ 4:11pm 
I think the answer is that 'nobody knows' but I hope not.

I used the hatchet before this bug, I am using it during this bug and I will continue to use it after it is fixed. They need to take ownership of the blame for this and not pass the blame onto players.
Fair enough there could be a case to answer for anyone who didn't use it and now ONLY uses it for the damage boost and then once fixed they stop using it. That's using an exploit. That's on the player.
They have had downtime where they could have sent a fix for it live and last time I looked it wasn't even on their list of known issues although I accept that was a big list and I might have missed it.

They would have to ban pretty much the entire player base. Everyone who has even sold a hatchet could be banned as they were profiting from an exploit as the weapon they are selling only sold might have only sold because it is more attractive now with the bug. How far do you want to twist the logic with this one? Everybody who has grouped with a hatchet user has benefited from the bug. Guilty. Ban them? Everyone who has bought something on the AH obtained by anyone using a hatchet or grouped with anyone using a hatchet is guilty.
Ban them too? Profiting from the sale of 'stolen' goods is a thing so surely profiting from the use of an 'exploit' could be seen as a thing too even if indirectly.
It's a really deep, dark rabbit hole I don't think they should go down when it is THEIR fault to start with and THEY'RE too lazy to fix it.

They could disable the perk if it is to blame as some claim or they could hand out free respecs so you could remove it. I am not paying for their error that they wont even acknowledge let alone take accountability for.
momodave Nov 3, 2021 @ 4:13pm 
Probably not, but I hope they do. You scrubs who KNOW it's a bug and uses it should be banned.
Moist Butt Nov 3, 2021 @ 4:15pm 
Originally posted by momodave:
Probably not, but I hope they do. You scrubs who KNOW it's a bug and uses it should be banned.

So you think players should completely change their play style because Amazon introduced a bug that is super easy to reproduce? What kind of logic is that? I am talking about ppl that isn't intentionally trying to exploit the bug. Picture your current load out and now picture you having to change to a different load out because it is bugged. You think's that fair and fun for the player?
Last edited by Moist Butt; Nov 3, 2021 @ 4:16pm
Moist Butt Nov 3, 2021 @ 4:18pm 
Originally posted by stretch:

They could disable the perk if it is to blame as some claim or they could hand out free respecs so you could remove it. I am not paying for their error that they wont even acknowledge let alone take accountability for.

Honestly I am suprised they haven't disabled the perk. I mean some ppl are just going to report ppl just for having hatchet equipped currently. That wouldn't be a problem if this game wasn't so ban heavy. Never got banned before, but i can see myself being banned if a bunch of salty players reporting me just for using a hatchet.

I was in an outpost rush game earlier and some guy literally said he SS everyone using hatchet and will be reporting them. I can imagine there are similar players. I mean hatchet has always been a popular weapon so it seems like a lot of false ban if they do ban ppl for this.
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momodave Nov 3, 2021 @ 4:21pm 
Originally posted by Moist Butt:
Originally posted by momodave:
Probably not, but I hope they do. You scrubs who KNOW it's a bug and uses it should be banned.

So you think players should completely change their play style because Amazon introduced a bug that is super easy to reproduce? What kind of logic is that? I am talking about ppl that isn't intentionally trying to exploit the bug. Picture your current load out and now picture you having to change to a different load out because it is bugged. You think's that fair and fun for the player?

People are intentionally breaking pvp with it.

Do you think it's intelligent to reinforce this sort of behaviour?
Moist Butt Nov 3, 2021 @ 4:30pm 
Originally posted by momodave:
Originally posted by Moist Butt:

So you think players should completely change their play style because Amazon introduced a bug that is super easy to reproduce? What kind of logic is that? I am talking about ppl that isn't intentionally trying to exploit the bug. Picture your current load out and now picture you having to change to a different load out because it is bugged. You think's that fair and fun for the player?

People are intentionally breaking pvp with it.

Do you think it's intelligent to reinforce this sort of behaviour?

No, i literally said i don't support exploits so not sure where you got that from. Yeah there are ppl intentionally doing it, but there are also ppl that have been using this weapon from the start. I dont see how it is fair to punish players that have no intention of doing the exploit and just want to use their favorite weapon. Obviously there's no way for ppl to tell the difference and only the person using the hatchet will know the truth.

With that said, its stupid for them to ban ppl for this because a lot of innocent players will be hit. I mean hatchet is a popular weapon. They should just disable the perk because ppl can live without that perk imo and it will be a fast temp fix.

I don't agree with your mentality of they must all be guilty, especially for something when players have very little control over.
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lumina Nov 3, 2021 @ 4:39pm 
Originally posted by Moist Butt:
Originally posted by momodave:
Probably not, but I hope they do. You scrubs who KNOW it's a bug and uses it should be banned.

So you think players should completely change their play style because Amazon introduced a bug that is super easy to reproduce? What kind of logic is that? I am talking about ppl that isn't intentionally trying to exploit the bug. Picture your current load out and now picture you having to change to a different load out because it is bugged. You think's that fair and fun for the player?

How exactly does it happen again? From my understanding, you had to play a certain way to make it stick. As in, never switching to your secondary weapon and chaining kills for like 20. If you changed how you played to exploit, then it's the same as someone switching to hatchet to exploit it. I didn't see anyone just using a single weapon, and never switching, before the hatchet exploit. I also didn't use the exploit so not sure I have that part right. My server sure had a lot of people crying about it during the wars though.
Last edited by lumina; Nov 3, 2021 @ 4:40pm
GermanBarbarian (Banned) Nov 3, 2021 @ 4:40pm 
its impressive how long they need to fix this
Kashra Fall Nov 3, 2021 @ 4:44pm 
Originally posted by Moist Butt:
Originally posted by momodave:
Probably not, but I hope they do. You scrubs who KNOW it's a bug and uses it should be banned.

So you think players should completely change their play style because Amazon introduced a bug that is super easy to reproduce? What kind of logic is that? I am talking about ppl that isn't intentionally trying to exploit the bug. Picture your current load out and now picture you having to change to a different load out because it is bugged. You think's that fair and fun for the player?

Swapping weapons should be your playstyle, you get more DPS rotating to all your skills, rather than sticking to one and spamming light attacks. Swap your weapon, the glitch goes away and you can immediately put the hatchet back on.
Moist Butt Nov 3, 2021 @ 4:44pm 
Originally posted by lumina:
Originally posted by Moist Butt:

So you think players should completely change their play style because Amazon introduced a bug that is super easy to reproduce? What kind of logic is that? I am talking about ppl that isn't intentionally trying to exploit the bug. Picture your current load out and now picture you having to change to a different load out because it is bugged. You think's that fair and fun for the player?

How exactly does it happen again? From my understanding, you had to play a certain way to make it stick. As in, never switching to your secondary weapon and chaining kills for like 20. If you changed how you played to exploit, then it's the same as someone switching to hatchet to exploit it. I didn't see anyone just using a single weapon, and never switching, before the hatchet exploit. I also didn't use the exploit so not sure I have that part right. My server sure had a lot of people crying about it during the wars though.

Apparently u just have to walk near enemies with a hatchet and build the stack. Yea its that easy. No i play the same, but you really think ppl are going to check if you are switching weapons in something like outpost rush or a war. The simple answer is no. Most ppl are just going to report you just for having it equipped. You already saw one reply that shows the mentality of "they must all be guilty."
Moist Butt Nov 3, 2021 @ 4:45pm 
Originally posted by Kashra Fall:
Originally posted by Moist Butt:

So you think players should completely change their play style because Amazon introduced a bug that is super easy to reproduce? What kind of logic is that? I am talking about ppl that isn't intentionally trying to exploit the bug. Picture your current load out and now picture you having to change to a different load out because it is bugged. You think's that fair and fun for the player?

Swapping weapons should be your playstyle, you get more DPS rotating to all your skills, rather than sticking to one and spamming light attacks. Swap your weapon, the glitch goes away and you can immediately put the hatchet back on.

Your missing the entire point. The point was that some players will just report ppl with hatchet equipped. I hope that's clear now.
Kashra Fall Nov 3, 2021 @ 4:48pm 
Originally posted by Moist Butt:
Originally posted by Kashra Fall:

Swapping weapons should be your playstyle, you get more DPS rotating to all your skills, rather than sticking to one and spamming light attacks. Swap your weapon, the glitch goes away and you can immediately put the hatchet back on.

Your missing the entire point. The point was that some players will just report ppl with hatchet equipped. I hope that's clear now.

I will explain how it goes with me. I'm a tank, I group with people in dungeons. I ask if people are using the exploit, if they say yes, I leave. Wanna know why? Because it's impossible for me to hold the aggro. As much fun as it is to watch a DPS be deleted by a boss, it is kind of annoying to have a wasted spot because they need "Mah deeps." rather than do things legitly. If a person is out in the wild farming away? Go for it. If you tell me you're intentionally exploiting because the game allows it? I will record/report you for cheating (Exploiting is cheating.)

We even tried to explain to a guy earlier to swap his weapons and wanna know how he responded? He took his other weapon off, just to say all he had was a hatchet. Sound report worthy to you?
lumina Nov 3, 2021 @ 4:49pm 
Originally posted by Moist Butt:
Originally posted by Kashra Fall:

Swapping weapons should be your playstyle, you get more DPS rotating to all your skills, rather than sticking to one and spamming light attacks. Swap your weapon, the glitch goes away and you can immediately put the hatchet back on.

Your missing the entire point. The point was that some players will just report ppl with hatchet equipped. I hope that's clear now.

I'd assume they at least look at logs to see if you were doing 10k damage per attack for long periods, after getting those reports. Or, better yet, probably aren't even using reports for stuff like the gold exploit (and possibly this, though not sure they are even banning for it at all). They can just look at logs to see who was doing all of it. Otherwise you would be correct and they'd be banning pretty much every hatchet user, which isn't going to happen.
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