Exploiting invasions... get a solution for that... please?

[Pakko]

its so funny.. every time i manage to get into an invasion i get kicked out by the guild that controlls the city until every single slot is filled with their guild members. So why should i even try to participate in those? Those "random" filled slots are easily swapped out by kicking everyone...

What do you guys think about that? This system doesn't make any sense in my opinion.

Amazon? Are you even aware of this exploit? Even reporting the players doesn't make any difference because they are still playing and doing that stuff.

[iNSANE BUnNY]

Look on bright side they lose no matter what because its currently event that no one can complete >< people just lose them on purpose now anyways

[Charred Muffin]

On our server there is one company selling spots at randoms for ingame money mostly 5 places in wars and invasions. Otherwise it is normal that all other players get kicked.

[Scorcher]

It certainly isn't a very inclusive system and instead promotes being geared at higher levels while also being chummy with the guild leaders to get in, if not also in communications as well. Imo as more people hit 60 your chance of getting in gets lower if you dont join the territory or become famous for that matter for wars as well. What it should be is either multiple games are going on and the average of how the games turned out would be the reward/punishment for what happens or it turns into a completely random system of whoever gets in is picked by pure chance. You would think that for lore and the corruption that everyone would be on board to help out against a common foe, but instead we would probably have people at each other's throats ending up throwing the invasions so a certain company or guild they don't like end up punished more with more downgrades forcing them to take time and gold to fix what they lost only for it to happen again in 2-3 days. It's a flawed system we currently have that promotes divide between people rather than cooperation with each other which shouldn't be that way... If anything what it should be is more of a bar to fill up and people have to participate and help and the more they do, they more the place will succeed even allowing multiple games to go on so even the people not helping much can also experience it and assist in some way. Maybe make it go by kills, defenses, and time spent surviving (As long as damage is done and mobs arent just rotated on taunts) to get a score that adds up to a whole progress meter. I just wish it was something more like guild wars where everyone can work together for a common goal cooperatively rather than be separate and feel just because you aren't in these massive factions you're useless.

[EMCM Magellan]

Pakko eredeti hozzászólása:

its so funny.. every time i manage to get into an invasion i get kicked out by the guild that controlls the city until every single slot is filled with their guild members. So why should i even try to participate in those? Those "random" filled slots are easily swapped out by kicking everyone...

What do you guys think about that? This system doesn't make any sense in my opinion.

Amazon? Are you even aware of this exploit? Even reporting the players doesn't make any difference because they are still playing and doing that stuff.

Imagine that, the guild controlling the city has the right to chose who helps defend it.

[Burba]

They should just let the guild that controls the city pick all 50 slots and be done with it.

[splaingy]

You want to fix invasions? Make them all random fill and make them tied to territory not owned by a company. There is nothing from stopping other factions from coming in and griefing, then dec on the territory after its defenses fall a tier. A company has every reason to want to kick people from another faction in current system. The outcome only impacts the company that owns the territory.

Now they also could, I dont know, TURN ON OUTPOST RUSH!!

[[MsW] Kiwii//Glitzerfee |||]

Squawk! eredeti hozzászólása:

Venom Gaming eredeti hozzászólása:

It's not an exploit, it's just people gatekeeping the invasions to their own guild.

It's a crappy playerbase problem.

No it's not. It's a sub-optimal game design flaw. Nobody's being toxic here. Companies have to work hard to balance taxes so non company members dont freak out, while affording the repairs every week from invasions. Invasions are incredibly difficult even for a fully geared company communicating over voice. if they let any tom ♥♥♥♥ or harry into the invasion too, the following will happen.

1) Other factions will enter and grief
2) you will get in, you won't join comms, nobody will be able to give you instructions, and you'll sit around humping crap mobs at level 52 while the spriggan destroys our gates and costs $50k in repairs.

I think it would be great if everyone got to experience wars and invasions. But as long as the owning company has to suffer the consequences of war and invasion, they're going to hand pick their guys if possible.

On my Server ppl get kicked all the time from this "owning Companys" this Companys did not Win a single Invasion. I played a Invasion with them once. every groupd had its position it had to defend. Guess what, the Random Groups where the Guys that held their positions while the Company guys thought they could do whatever they want. Some Random dude confronted them via chat and got kicked..........Handpicking ppl isnt a Excuse for this, nor are Repair costs oft townstuff since a Town can gain 50k easy in 1 DAY.

[EMCM Magellan]

WP Kiwii//GlitzerFee eredeti hozzászólása:

Squawk! eredeti hozzászólása:

No it's not. It's a sub-optimal game design flaw. Nobody's being toxic here. Companies have to work hard to balance taxes so non company members dont freak out, while affording the repairs every week from invasions. Invasions are incredibly difficult even for a fully geared company communicating over voice. if they let any tom ♥♥♥♥ or harry into the invasion too, the following will happen.

1) Other factions will enter and grief
2) you will get in, you won't join comms, nobody will be able to give you instructions, and you'll sit around humping crap mobs at level 52 while the spriggan destroys our gates and costs $50k in repairs.

I think it would be great if everyone got to experience wars and invasions. But as long as the owning company has to suffer the consequences of war and invasion, they're going to hand pick their guys if possible.

On my Server ppl get kicked all the time from this "owning Companys" this Companys did not Win a single Invasion. I played a Invasion with them once. every groupd had its position it had to defend. Guess what, the Random Groups where the Guys that held their positions while the Company guys thought they could do whatever they want. Some Random dude confronted them via chat and got kicked..........Handpicking ppl isnt a Excuse for this, nor are Repair costs oft townstuff since a Town can gain 50k easy in 1 DAY.

How dare the owning company make the decisions about how and who can defend the town, How dare they.

[Dogtatokun]

For the hundrenth time. AGS can't do anything about the exploits. The game has client side authority. It's only going to get worse.

[Doomed]

So you're saying that the guild that puts up the gold to fight for the city and to build up the city should have to let randoms of any level defend their town?
What if a bunch of babies that don't like the clan all get in the defense and let it fail just to laugh?

You're complaint seems like sour grapes to me. Take a city yourself if you want to fight.

[[MsW] Kiwii//Glitzerfee |||]

EMCM Magellan eredeti hozzászólása:

WP Kiwii//GlitzerFee eredeti hozzászólása:

On my Server ppl get kicked all the time from this "owning Companys" this Companys did not Win a single Invasion. I played a Invasion with them once. every groupd had its position it had to defend. Guess what, the Random Groups where the Guys that held their positions while the Company guys thought they could do whatever they want. Some Random dude confronted them via chat and got kicked..........Handpicking ppl isnt a Excuse for this, nor are Repair costs oft townstuff since a Town can gain 50k easy in 1 DAY.

How dare the owning company make the decisions about how and who can defend the town, How dare they.

u seem to not understand this....lol probably a member of a comp that does this aswell. Anyways me and other peopel already thought switching the faction just to hun grief these "owning company" guys. and i realy hope that this happens on other servers aswell. until these owning company guys switch servers or just quit :D

[Wolfera]

WP Kiwii//GlitzerFee eredeti hozzászólása:

On my Server ppl get kicked all the time from this "owning Companys" this Companys did not Win a single Invasion. I played a Invasion with them once. every groupd had its position it had to defend. Guess what, the Random Groups where the Guys that held their positions while the Company guys thought they could do whatever they want. Some Random dude confronted them via chat and got kicked..........Handpicking ppl isnt a Excuse for this, nor are Repair costs oft townstuff since a Town can gain 50k easy in 1 DAY.

Thats the problem, bosses spawn at different spots and u need rotating teams to help defend when a boss pack or spriggan appears. In my server our guild was the only one which managed to defend one invasion, but the bosses were bugged in that one, thats why we managed.

Main problem with Invasions is tanks are useless, bosses will rush the keep so its pretty much a dps check, on next one wer gonna try 46 rDPS and 4 healers to see how it goes. How can you organize a hard 50 ppl raid if you allow randoms to join at the last minute? We've been trying tactics for weeks now... And every time we lose an invasion we gotta pay to lvl stuff back up, randoms have zero commitment with the territory they're defending.

[Charred Muffin]

And that's why new world is currently losing a lot of players. The endgame is limited to a small number of players, not everyone can join a company with a city and even then the same 50 players are always included for this events.
In a other mmorpg you could just open a new PVE raid any time, play WvW like in GW2 without restrictions 24/7 etc. Here you are limited to a few events per week that only the same handful of players can join.

I like New World itself from the gameplay, but to restrict the endgame to a small group is not a good game design in my opinion. I don't understand why there are no similar events like PVE instances with a outpost defense in a small circle for 10-30 players so that everyone has something from the endgame.

Another thing is currently players are doing pvp missions to make cities conquerable, only to not be allowed to participate for this events. It is getting harder and harder to find players for pvp missions because they are not allowed to take part in the battle for the city at the end of the day.

I hope they add similar content for all players to somehow keep and motivate them.

[EMCM Magellan]

WP Kiwii//GlitzerFee eredeti hozzászólása:

EMCM Magellan eredeti hozzászólása:

How dare the owning company make the decisions about how and who can defend the town, How dare they.

u seem to not understand this....lol probably a member of a comp that does this aswell. Anyways me and other peopel already thought switching the faction just to hun grief these "owning company" guys. and i realy hope that this happens on other servers aswell. until these owning company guys switch servers or just quit :D

If you are feeling froggy then jump and do it... Less whining, more doing.

[Katitoff]

Alenfal eredeti hozzászólása:

Is that not as intended?

No, its flawed, non functional system that gives false hope for people not belonging to the guild and gating end game content exclusively to up to 8 main guilds.