New world? FF14? Ashes of creation?

[Nyah]

Hey,
i kinda want to dive in a mmo soon but im not sure which one.
I bought new world, i appreciate it but thats all, its an ok game for me. but im sure im missing things about it.

Can people who play FF14 or Ashes of creation, give me pros and ♥♥♥♥ about these two games? and even on New world, what did you really like in it etc...
im more attracted to ashes of creation, ff14 not so much except for the community that seems very friendly.
Thanks

edit: still im gonna play New world but i dont think i will stay on it for a long time

[AdahnGorion]

I don´t like any of them.

FF14 is your typical Asian mmo, albeit it does have good PvE aspects (unlike this game)
AoC tries to hard, but fails on many things.. still im0 better than this, but I dislike their handling of the game and how you gain access.

All in all..

For pvp you might as well find an old UO server, for PvE an old EQ server, for sandbox and old SWG server. That is my advice.

[Nyah]

Thank you for the reply :)

[Tombstone]

The only negative I found in FF14 was a very subjective one and that was the aesthetics. If you are not someone who is overly put off by the Asian style graphics/artwork then virtually everything else about the game is a big pro. Lashings of lore, tons and TONS of content, lots of skills, the ability to play all classes on one character, a really interesting and well implemented crafting system where being a gatherer or crafting is a class in itself that you level up and have skills for as you level (like any normal class), loads of dungeons and raids and loot and cosmetics and mounts etc.

As an MMO it really did surprise me with how good it was and the only negatives are , as I say, subjective ones (whether the player in question likes tab targetting/heavy story arcs and cutscenes/aesthetic)

[Skearn]

ive got about 7K hours in ff14, ashes of creation im hoping for a main game and new world is what i will play in the meantime.

on FF!4, its got a great story, the 1st 50 lvls is a tad slow on story but it picks up real fast.
i dont play it anymore because i like having pvp, but its most DEFINITELY worth the time and money just for the story.
ive wasted plenty of time and money on that game and im happy that i did, not to shill or simp really but its very clear the devs and players reallycare for their game:D

[Vazkulator]

Originally posted by Nyah:

Hey,
i kinda want to dive in a mmo soon but im not sure which one.
I bought new world, i appreciate it but thats all, its an ok game for me. but im sure im missing things about it.

Can people who play FF14 or Ashes of creation, give me pros and ♥♥♥♥ about these two games? and even on New world, what did you really like in it etc...
im more attracted to ashes of creation, ff14 not so much except for the community that seems very friendly.
Thanks

edit: still im gonna play New world but i dont think i will stay on it for a long time

new world is like a watered down eso for monkeys who suffered the loss of several fingers and some mild brain damage, id recommend eso if you can handle absurd paywalls unless youre willing to pay monthly in order to nullify the storage problems.

if you can stomach the insane weeb style of FF, go ahead thats probably your second best option for eso now that WoW is dead

[Nyah]

Thanks for the replies all of you, ill check videos too to make my mind, its not urgent anyway :)
i really appreciate your feedbacks !

[Skearn]

Originally posted by Nyah:

Thanks for the replies all of you, ill check videos too to make my mind, its not urgent anyway :)
i really appreciate your feedbacks !

yw^^

[Lagfactor]

Originally posted by Vazkulator:

Originally posted by Nyah:

Hey,
i kinda want to dive in a mmo soon but im not sure which one.
I bought new world, i appreciate it but thats all, its an ok game for me. but im sure im missing things about it.

Can people who play FF14 or Ashes of creation, give me pros and ♥♥♥♥ about these two games? and even on New world, what did you really like in it etc...
im more attracted to ashes of creation, ff14 not so much except for the community that seems very friendly.
Thanks

edit: still im gonna play New world but i dont think i will stay on it for a long time

new world is like a watered down eso for monkeys who suffered the loss of several fingers and some mild brain damage, id recommend eso if you can handle absurd paywalls unless youre willing to pay monthly in order to nullify the storage problems.

if you can stomach the insane weeb style of FF, go ahead thats probably your second best option for eso now that WoW is dead

Doesnt own the game, hasnt played the beta but sure has a lot of opinions to provide on a game he doesnt like.
Relevance level of his post = 0

[info]

Originally posted by Darkie:

I don´t like any of them.

FF14 is your typical Asian mmo

this is just completely false. it is extremely different to Asian MMOs, except the design of characters. The gameplay systems itself are full of things classic Western games and Western MMOs do on a regular basis, just optimized for PvE, story and crafting.

The crafting system is a copy paste from EverQuest 2 -- and that was my favorite crafting system ever in an MMO.
The combat is deep and varied, not hack and slash, reliant on positioning, combination and chaining of abilities and so on. Also similar to older Western MMOs and RPGs.

I don't like the anime look in games, but it's extremely well designed otherwise and there simply is no MMO out there that does what FFXIV does well, or even barely as good.


New World isn't an MMORPG. it's an more multiplayer version of Rust with less PvP. that's New World. if you like that, you'll have a blast. most won't.

it's made for streamers who have reliable friends and a policed server with only other streamers mostly, where the pure dog poop part of games like Rust or Arc never materializes.

What may save New World in the short run is the crafting system, which seems to be pretty awesome, and the gathering system that is simply the best in any MMO: you can pick up and gather ~everything.
The crafting of FFXIV is great, the gathering is horrible. New World seems to have the gathering nailed down.

that they plan to sell fast traveling for real money shows where this game is going: draw people in, then milk them with annoyance that can be skipped.

Amazon is an evil company and such corporations will never build anything inspired or sublime. they build a game to attract people through appealing to the lowest common denominator, not building a community and huge player base by attracting through excellence.

Then they milk that

[AdahnGorion]

Originally posted by info:

Originally posted by Darkie:

I don´t like any of them.

FF14 is your typical Asian mmo

this is just completely false. it is extremely different to Asian MMOs, except the design of characters. The gameplay systems itself are full of things classic Western games and Western MMOs do on a regular basis, just optimized for PvE, story and crafting.

The crafting system is a copy paste from EverQuest 2 -- and that was my favorite crafting system ever in an MMO.
The combat is deep and varied, not hack and slash, reliant on positioning, combination and chaining of abilities and so on. Also similar to older Western MMOs and RPGs.

I don't like the anime look in games, but it's extremely well designed otherwise and there simply is no MMO out there that does what FFXIV does well, or even barely as good.


New World isn't an MMORPG. it's an more multiplayer version of Rust with less PvP. that's New World. if you like that, you'll have a blast. most won't.

it's made for streamers who have reliable friends and a policed server with only other streamers mostly, where the pure dog poop part of games like Rust or Arc never materializes.

What may save New World in the short run is the crafting system, which seems to be pretty awesome, and the gathering system that is simply the best in any MMO: you can pick up and gather ~everything.
The crafting of FFXIV is great, the gathering is horrible. New World seems to have the gathering nailed down.

that they plan to sell fast traveling for real money shows where this game is going: draw people in, then milk them with annoyance that can be skipped.

Amazon is an evil company and such corporations will never build anything inspired or sublime. they build a game to attract people through appealing to the lowest common denominator, not building a community and huge player base by attracting through excellence.

Then they milk that

I think FF14 has Asian vibe (in its looks, in its way of creating story, in its grinding, etc) I will agree that it is not like BDO and the sort.. It is not awful in that way or a "pay 2 win / full grind" style.. But FF14 is still very "Asian" in its take.. obviously.

Amazon is not Evil.. Evil does not exist.. Amazon is a lot of hard working people, that struggle to survive just like you and me. Do you have rich people that wants to keep being rich? yes.. ofc.. all companies have, all communities have.. it is how our societies function sadly.

[AlexPG]

Originally posted by Lagfactor:

Originally posted by Vazkulator:

new world is like a watered down eso for monkeys who suffered the loss of several fingers and some mild brain damage, id recommend eso if you can handle absurd paywalls unless youre willing to pay monthly in order to nullify the storage problems.

if you can stomach the insane weeb style of FF, go ahead thats probably your second best option for eso now that WoW is dead

Doesnt own the game, hasnt played the beta but sure has a lot of opinions to provide on a game he doesnt like.
Relevance level of his post = 0

What are you telling?! How you dare to say such that things of our greatest mmo sage?!

[Vazkulator]

Originally posted by Lagfactor:

Originally posted by Vazkulator:

new world is like a watered down eso for monkeys who suffered the loss of several fingers and some mild brain damage, id recommend eso if you can handle absurd paywalls unless youre willing to pay monthly in order to nullify the storage problems.

if you can stomach the insane weeb style of FF, go ahead thats probably your second best option for eso now that WoW is dead

Doesnt own the game, hasnt played the beta but sure has a lot of opinions to provide on a game he doesnt like.
Relevance level of his post = 0

what do you know of that ? i spent over a decade with mmos and got plenty of friends who abandoned wow on and off over the years to see plenty of different mmos

maybe you should start talking about the actual topics instead of about the people posting on here just because youve never played a single ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ mmo before ?

[Vazkulator]

Originally posted by AlexPG:

Originally posted by Lagfactor:

Doesnt own the game, hasnt played the beta but sure has a lot of opinions to provide on a game he doesnt like.
Relevance level of his post = 0

What are you telling?! How you dare to say such that things of our greatest mmo sage?!

im not a sage but what sets us apart is probably the credibility and thats usually what matters when people contribute to something and the level of genuity in someones words and thats probably really what grinds your gears so badly that the only time you actually post in threads is when you talk about the people on there

the ad hominem attacks is one thing but theyre used in such a way that you look like 5 year olds

[Lagfactor]

Originally posted by Vazkulator:

Originally posted by Lagfactor:

Doesnt own the game, hasnt played the beta but sure has a lot of opinions to provide on a game he doesnt like.
Relevance level of his post = 0

what do you know of that ? i spent over a decade with mmos and got plenty of friends who abandoned wow on and off over the years to see plenty of different mmos

maybe you should start talking about the actual topics instead of about the people posting on here just because youve never played a single ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ mmo before ?

You dont own the game havent played it as the lack of post on the beta forum and your profil shows. So no, you know squat about the game hence your opinion is irrelevant.
As for your experience in MMOs you only ever mention 3 meaning that yes, however long you played those, your experience is lacking

[Nyah]

Originally posted by Lagfactor:

Originally posted by Vazkulator:

what do you know of that ? i spent over a decade with mmos and got plenty of friends who abandoned wow on and off over the years to see plenty of different mmos

maybe you should start talking about the actual topics instead of about the people posting on here just because youve never played a single ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ mmo before ?

You dont own the game havent played it as the lack of post on the beta forum and your profil shows. So no, you know squat about the game hence your opinion is irrelevant

you seem to own the game (i guess since your profile is private...), what is your opinion on New world?

edit: i should add, you can have an opinion on something you didnt fully experienced, we all do this all the time irl. maybe he watched videos, maybe a friend of him played it, maybe he tried it at a friends home etc...
you just give your opinion on him without knowing him so...