Chat bans instead of game bans

[Bluxwave]

Banning someone from the whole game for chat is wrong when they should just be locked out of chat channels

[EvilHare]

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We even had devs come to this discussion and tell us the report system is monitored by teams. It is not auto system.

WHat this is is another campaign to make a game look bad cause it does not give them what they want. Toxicity and forced PvP.

This joke has been at this for a long time. Just another bitter person who realizes they will not get their way so they are willing to do anything to sabotage it. Quite a few others on here on this campaign.

Sad

I love NW, it's not a campaign, it's something that really happened during the beta. They monitor after the ban has been processed by the system as it seems, but what he got as a response on the email is: "it does not matter what you said, as long as a decently sized number of people found it offensive, you are banned".

So a consensus is considered a codded program that auto judges?

Nice, then I got to let the courts know that. Especially since we have the right to be judged by our peers. SO many can get away with murder due to your logic!

[Doomed]

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Escrito originalmente por EvilHare:

We even had devs come to this discussion and tell us the report system is monitored by teams. It is not auto system.

WHat this is is another campaign to make a game look bad cause it does not give them what they want. Toxicity and forced PvP.

This joke has been at this for a long time. Just another bitter person who realizes they will not get their way so they are willing to do anything to sabotage it. Quite a few others on here on this campaign.

Sad

I love NW, it's not a campaign, it's something that really happened during the beta. They monitor after the ban has been processed by the system as it seems, but what he got as a response on the email is: "it does not matter what you said, as long as a decently sized number of people found it offensive, you are banned".

Then like I said the game will be dead in days because that will become a legitimate tactic in order to win rvr.
I will come and admit that I'm wrong when that happens.
I'm not going to respond to this subject anymore. Yall know my opinion and I respect yours.

[VNero]

Escrito originalmente por EvilHare:

Escrito originalmente por VNero:

I love NW, it's not a campaign, it's something that really happened during the beta. They monitor after the ban has been processed by the system as it seems, but what he got as a response on the email is: "it does not matter what you said, as long as a decently sized number of people found it offensive, you are banned".

So a consensus is considered a program?

Nice, then I got to let the courts know that. Especially since we have the right to be judged by our peers. SO many can get away with murder due to your logic!

Well that's what happens when you are the leader of a company that owns several territories and the other 2 factions despise you, more people hate you than like you.

[Peon]

I'm all for the chat bans, I would like to see them receive a warning first through a GM private message but after that, if you continue to be a jack tard then you get what you deserve.

[EvilHare]

Escrito originalmente por VNero:

Escrito originalmente por EvilHare:

So a consensus is considered a program?

Nice, then I got to let the courts know that. Especially since we have the right to be judged by our peers. SO many can get away with murder due to your logic!

Well that's what happens when you are the leader of a company that owns several territories and the other 2 factions despise you, more people hate you than like you.

I have been hated quite a bit on the Alpha server and in CB testing, yet I have not got a ban. The server I was on had the PAX and they exploit anything just to be superior.

I did not get banned.

You have nothing but speculation and a tin foil hat.

Quite simple.

[Jesus of Methlehem]

Call someone a clown, get banned.

Just play with the chat off OP, the report system is flawed and will be abused.

[Doomed]

Escrito originalmente por Jesus of Methlehem:

Call someone a clown, get banned.

Just play with the chat off OP, the report system is flawed and will be abused.

Unfortunately this is how you have to play games in the 21st century.
I use chat but don't have conversations with anyone other than answering general questions or lfg stuff.
To many people looking for a reason to cause others trouble and holding grudges for life.

[VNero]

Escrito originalmente por EvilHare:

Escrito originalmente por VNero:

Well that's what happens when you are the leader of a company that owns several territories and the other 2 factions despise you, more people hate you than like you.

I have been hated quite a bit on the Alpha servers and in CB testing, yet I have not got a banned. The server I was on had the PAX and they exploit anything just to be superior.

I did not get banned.

You have nothing but speculation and a tin foil hat.

Quite simple.

Hey I have been around these forums a lot and I agree with most of your points. And yes, I don't know what server was that but I was originally in Ocadalon which later on got chosen to merge with Hyperborea a larger pop server, what we saw in pvp in that server was an exploit mess, but we did not see the mass chat report thing happening again to our leader since all our territories were wiped in the merge. That only happened once, but it did happen and if you don't believe me, ask my company's leader yourself, he streams in twitch as "ToneGamingTV". It's not speculation, it happened and it did concern us too, because that might lead to larger problems if it's not changed.

[EvilHare]

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Escrito originalmente por EvilHare:

I have been hated quite a bit on the Alpha servers and in CB testing, yet I have not got a banned. The server I was on had the PAX and they exploit anything just to be superior.

I did not get banned.

You have nothing but speculation and a tin foil hat.

Quite simple.

Hey I have been around these forums a lot and I agree with most of your points. And yes, I don't know what server was that but I was originally in Ocadalon which later on got chosen to merge with Hyperborea a larger pop server, what we saw in pvp in that server was an exploit mess, but we did not see the mass chat report thing happening again to our leader since all our territories were wiped in the merge. That only happened once, but it did happen and if you don't believe me, ask my company's leader yourself, he streams in twitch as "ToneGamingTV". It's not speculation, it happened and it did concern us too, because that might lead to larger problems if it's not changed.

LMAO, and you did not hear about a bug that was related to Twitch streamers? The famous milking cow ban?

OK, good to know you are basing this on a portion of the facts.

[VNero]

Escrito originalmente por EvilHare:

Escrito originalmente por VNero:

Hey I have been around these forums a lot and I agree with most of your points. And yes, I don't know what server was that but I was originally in Ocadalon which later on got chosen to merge with Hyperborea a larger pop server, what we saw in pvp in that server was an exploit mess, but we did not see the mass chat report thing happening again to our leader since all our territories were wiped in the merge. That only happened once, but it did happen and if you don't believe me, ask my company's leader yourself, he streams in twitch as "ToneGamingTV". It's not speculation, it happened and it did concern us too, because that might lead to larger problems if it's not changed.

LMAO, and you did not hear about a bug that was related to Twitch streamers? The famous milking cow ban?

OK, good to know you are basing this on a portion of the facts.

Yeah I heard that, I was confused af like why would that ever happen? I did not bother checking tho I was too busy playing the game for the rest of the beta :).

[EvilHare]

Escrito originalmente por Evol:

Yeah you can disagree, and that's fine, but lets face it, you compared KILLING 13 people to toxicity in a game, enough said, LOL.

The reason for not just banning people that just log in, is that there would be an uproar and then class action would be taken, they get away with banning "toxic players" due to, well it is toxic, and the conflict between toxic and normies is a future war yet to happen, heh.

What you are suggesting is its ok, to take away a payed for product/service from a person, that could occur from a false positive, and this system is better than just silence banning a toxic person.

All other laws regarding the removal of products require refunds or replacements, its only a matter of time for the laws of digital products to follow suit.

All you are talking about has been through various courts all over the world many times over in the past decade and longer.

The consumers fails to win in more than 90% of all those cases. Why? in MMOS, The ToS are different.

Knowledge

[Padraig]

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Escrito originalmente por Doomed:

Ok now I really have to disagree.
By your line of thinking why not just ban everyone for logging in? Everyone here already says nobody reads the tos. Why not just say logging in will get you banned? Imagine all the money they will make. SMH.
Again I usually agree with you but come on .

Yeah you can disagree, and that's fine, but lets face it, you compared KILLING 13 people to toxicity in a game, enough said, LOL.

The reason for not just banning people that just log in, is that there would be an uproar and then class action would be taken, they get away with banning "toxic players" due to, well it is toxic, and the conflict between toxic and normies is a future war yet to happen, heh.

What you are suggesting is its ok, to take away a payed for product/service from a person, that could occur from a false positive, and this system is better than just silence banning a toxic person.

All other laws regarding the removal of products require refunds or replacements, its only a matter of time for the laws of digital products to follow suit.

You are purposely not seeing the picture, I believe. I'll put this as simply as possible. A player agrees to the ToS and CoC before being allowed to log into the game. The ToS includes provisions allowing for the ban if a player violates the ToS and CoC. Hence, a player has already agreed to accept a ban for toxic behavior BEFORE they log into the game. There is no legal recourse for a banned player in either US or International Law.

[Doomed]

Escrito originalmente por EvilHare:

Escrito originalmente por Evol:

Yeah you can disagree, and that's fine, but lets face it, you compared KILLING 13 people to toxicity in a game, enough said, LOL.

The reason for not just banning people that just log in, is that there would be an uproar and then class action would be taken, they get away with banning "toxic players" due to, well it is toxic, and the conflict between toxic and normies is a future war yet to happen, heh.

What you are suggesting is its ok, to take away a payed for product/service from a person, that could occur from a false positive, and this system is better than just silence banning a toxic person.

All other laws regarding the removal of products require refunds or replacements, its only a matter of time for the laws of digital products to follow suit.

All you are talking about has been through various courts all over the world many times over in the past decade and longer.

The consumers fails to win in more than 90% of all those cases. Why? in MMOS, The ToS are different.

Knowledge

My point exactly. For some reason what happens daily in the real world with real rules shouldn't apply just because it's a video game?
People have things that they pay for taken away all the time and as you said usually lose the case if they protest.
Why do people not have to follow rules because it's a game? Where is the line drawn ?
How hard is it to follow rules you check a yes box to, whether in a game or not.

[Doomed]

Escrito originalmente por Padraig:

Escrito originalmente por Evol:

Yeah you can disagree, and that's fine, but lets face it, you compared KILLING 13 people to toxicity in a game, enough said, LOL.

The reason for not just banning people that just log in, is that there would be an uproar and then class action would be taken, they get away with banning "toxic players" due to, well it is toxic, and the conflict between toxic and normies is a future war yet to happen, heh.

What you are suggesting is its ok, to take away a payed for product/service from a person, that could occur from a false positive, and this system is better than just silence banning a toxic person.

All other laws regarding the removal of products require refunds or replacements, its only a matter of time for the laws of digital products to follow suit.

You are purposely not seeing the picture, I believe. I'll put this as simply as possible. A player agrees to the ToS and CoC before being allowed to log into the game. The ToS includes provisions allowing for the ban if a player violates the ToS and CoC. Hence, a player has already agreed to accept a ban for toxic behavior BEFORE they log into the game. There is no legal recourse for a banned player in either US or International Law.

Thank you. I was beginning to think I was going crazy. Im glad the rest of you get it.

[Venatacia]

Don't we except the rules and click "I understand" at the start of the game. You break the rules, you get banned. Seems very simple to me. If you don't read the rules and play ignorant, I doubt it will bode well for you.

Never been banned, not even in the days of Battlefield 2 and the dreaded Punkbuster.