Crafting needs buffed.

[Abaddon]

Kinda simple.
Right now to get to level 200 in crafting the fastest way will cost you around 175k-350k iron per skill you want to level (weapon smithing, armor crafting, engineering ect)

This is INSANE considering if you want to level all crafting to max, you need around 1mill iron ore let alone the rest of the mats for crafting.

A normal iron node gives about 20-60 ore, even with potion buffs.
They are only in low level areas and are farmed 24/7 it's hard to farm even at 2-5 am in the morning.

The XP gain for crafting needs buffed so it's not a "craft 8000 of the most basic stuff to level up" because crafting higher end stuff gives less xp, for very high costs.

And to top it off, crafting is worse than world drops.

I grind about 80% of my play time for crafting and the stuff I can make is way worse than what I could get put of a raid/just normal chest drops.

It's kinda sad that crafting is such a hard grind just for only to be used at late game for the legendary weapons because the rest is useless.

[Whizzurd]

You hit it on the nail when you said that crafting is usually worse-out than drops. Literally whatever I can craft, especially the armor, never compares to the random drops I find in the world. It’s almost as if the devs expected the players to equal out their leveling experience and crafting experience hand-in-hand, which is seemingly just not the case.

[KillJoy]

That is the whole point of crafting. Only a truly dedicated crafter with a lot of patience will be able to reach that high crafting skill.

The whole idea is not to level all crafting to max. Otherwise there would be no market, since everyone can craft anything they want.

[Abaddon]

Originally posted by KillJoy:

That is the whole point of crafting. Only a truly dedicated crafter with a lot of patience will be able to reach that high crafting skill.

The whole idea is not to level all crafting to max. Otherwise there would be no market, since everyone can craft anything they want.

See and I understand that as someone who used to craft on wow and ESO.
But the fact that by the time you have star metal gear for crafting (aka level 100 crafting skills)
You already have 440 gear.
Star metal starts at 375 for crafting, the LEVEL 25 RAID will give you 380 gear., That's level 35 gear at level 25.

There's zero point to be a crafter besides for endgame rn.

[banetrapperdev]

Well i played on the hour rotation of town in recall. i did about 10 quests(yellow+3faction+6 to 9board) every time i left town before i returned. and i filled my inventory to full before recalling. I always could craft same or better gear from crafting.

So that being said, if i invested so much time gathering, and my gathering skills are so low. And stuff i could craft sometimes was better then what i got.

I wanted starmetal, i was like level 30, and my mining was about 58, and i needed it 100. So i farmed stone for 5 hours to get it to 100. It's so out of balance sadly so i will
+1 for the OP, crafting needs buff indirectly at least

[AceAngel (Jaden)]

Agree with Killjoy, crafting is something ONE person in a guild should be doing, with all mats fed to them.. The problem is 99% of people want to be crafters, so the cost of materials is high

[Abaddon]

Originally posted by (Jaden) AceAngel TTV:

Agree with Killjoy, crafting is something ONE person in a guild should be doing, with all mats fed to them.. The problem is 99% of people want to be crafters, so the cost of materials is high

Funny enough that's how my guild is doing it, they are pushing all metal and such to me, yet even with something like that? You can only get about 1500-2000 ore with 2 good backpacks, and that's about a 30 min walk/farm grind with good tools.
Now divide that by 175k.

Now also realize there's no point to level crafting because you can just kill a random mod at the same level as you and get gear better or same level as stuff you can craft

[Abaddon]

Like I 100% understand crafting should be a grind for max level, but if the grinds not worth it mid level (where most players will sit, for a long time)
Then it feels like a ♥♥♥♥♥

[Galroche]

hmm another system in the game that was added in a hurry with not real tought behind it ? Naaaah that wouldn't happen in an amazon game !

[Nigolasy]

I did like it that I could use crafting up to lv 15 or smth to get better gear than I already had. Now the main reason I want to do crafting is, that I literally only get heavy armor when I want to use light one.

I also wanted to craft some spears but lord I have yet to find a single piece of fairy iron (if that's what it's called in the english version).
This morning I took an hour of my free time and grinded over 2k wood from young trees just to reach tree choping lv50. God knows how long it will take to reach lv125 for the next tree.

Ofc not everyone is supposed to be the best crafter but at least let me be able to learn ONE thing decently. Hell give me an option to choose a speciality and give an XP bonus only for the harvesting skills required for that speciality.

[Abaddon]

Originally posted by Nigolasy:

I did like it that I could use crafting up to lv 15 or smth to get better gear than I already had. Now the main reason I want to do crafting is, that I literally only get heavy armor when I want to use light one.

I also wanted to craft some spears but lord I have yet to find a single piece of fairy iron (if that's what it's called in the english version).
This morning I took an hour of my free time and grinded over 2k wood from young trees just to reach tree choping lv50. God knows how long it will take to reach lv125 for the next tree.

Ofc not everyone is supposed to be the best crafter but at least let me be able to learn ONE thing decently. Hell give me an option to choose a speciality and give an XP bonus only for the harvesting skills required for that speciality.

Some armor does give XP bonus's
As well as some tool buffs, however their only about 1.5-5% buffs per gear part.

1-100 is not that bad of a grind, but 100-200 is stupid hard, and only useful endgame.

Again at level 25 I've got what crafting considers level 35 gear
I'm 30 now, and still won't craft actual armor or blades and such till end game because it's just not worth the mats or XP to make any of it besides the low level trash stuff.

[Witski]

Nothing in the world come close to what a crafter can do...at all.
Invest into crafting and don't just look at some random guides.

[Abaddon]

Originally posted by Witski:

Nothing in the world come close to what a crafter can do...at all.
Invest into crafting and don't just look at some random guides.

Star metal great axe starts at 375 gear score and needs 100 Weapon smithing.

The level 25 raid that's the. First raid drops gear at 330-380 with way better stats and stuff.
Also anything crafted is level locked, so star metal tools/gear/weapon's?
Level 35.

You will have way better gear by the time you unlock it level wise, let alone grind wise

[Abaddon]

I'm not looking at random guides, Ive grinded to level 100 engineering, and I'm almost at 100 weapon smithing, that's just ligit what I've found and seen ic

[KillJoy]

Originally posted by TheBlack:

I'm not looking at random guides, Ive grinded to level 100 engineering, and I'm almost at 100 weapon smithing, that's just ligit what I've found and seen ic

Yes, but if I am not mistaken it goes to level 600.
Also, do not forget about the drop only recipes. They do exist, and you might end up being the only one on your server who can craft it because the recipe dropped for you.

Think about the $$$ that will make you crafting for others and charging crafting fees.

[Abaddon]

Originally posted by KillJoy:

Originally posted by TheBlack:

I'm not looking at random guides, Ive grinded to level 100 engineering, and I'm almost at 100 weapon smithing, that's just ligit what I've found and seen ic

Yes, but if I am not mistaken it goes to level 600.
Also, do not forget about the drop only recipes. They do exist, and you might end up being the only one on your server who can craft it because the recipe dropped for you.

Think about the $$$ that will make you crafting for others and charging crafting fees.

Max crafting is level 200, if it hit 600 I would die.
I do actually have one cooking drop only craft, however I have been told that all the legendary gear (weapons as I don't think there's legendary armor) that can drop from raids us BPs only, so to get the best gear you MUST be a crafter.

Hence why I said it needs a buff because if not there's zero point to crafting until endgame