My Reservoir wont fill with water.

[ashensizzlor]

Im obviously doing something wrong because it holds less water after I added sluice gates and it wont fill up. https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3448721623

Its three blocks deep but wont fill any higher than one. I put sluice gates underneath the flood gates but the flow is inconsistent now and the water wont fill the reservoir. The inconstant flow is stopping my industry down stream and making it difficult for me to expand my food to grow my population to fill all of the industry jobs I need.

[chaney]

Quick take: Sluices can't fill downstream water above their own top.

[ashensizzlor]

Originally posted by chaney:

Quick take: Sluices can't fill downstream water above their own top.

I see. did not know that. Is there a way to change the design so it can fill? I do have a little bit of dynamite but im pretty spent on resources. The only solutions I can think of are burning all of my wood for engines to run mechanical pumps which is expensive. or making the long trek to the water source and putting it under pressure which is also expensive. Im not an expert plumber unfortunately.

[EleventhStar]

making it deeper is the only thing you can do if you cant realistically reach the water source itself.

if you have access to the mechanical pumps already then scaling up dynamite production shouldn't be that tricky to do.

[ashensizzlor]

Originally posted by EleventhStar:

making it deeper is the only thing you can do if you cant realistically reach the water source itself.

if you have access to the mechanical pumps already then scaling up dynamite production shouldn't be that tricky to do.

So the main water source isnt too far. I could in theory create an aqueduct from the source up in the mountains Its going to be costly. I only have a population of 50 or so. I just barely got metal for the sluice gates. I might be able to pull it off but even in the temperate season my industry is stalled because the water wont flow. Down stream in my main town I have the river. It ends with a set of flood gates set to .85 to retain as much water as possible, . The sluice gate is also set to the same level but just open and closes rapidly and the water does not move to spin my wheels.

[ashensizzlor]

So by my math Its possible to make an aqueduct using ten sets of six 3x1 over hangs. Each 3x1 costs six metal for a total of 36 metal a set and 360 total metal which sounds pretty cheap save for the fact that the estimate does not account for the cost of the impermeable floors needed to make the aqueduct water tight. It sounds doable but I have no idea how to get my industry working again.

[EleventhStar]

Originally posted by ashensizzlor:

I only have a population of 50 or so. I just barely got metal for the sluice gates..

is there a rush? it doesn't really look like you are gonna have problems in that 9 day drought with your setup as it is.

is it your plants irrigation that's drying up towards the end of it?

[ashensizzlor]

Originally posted by EleventhStar:

Originally posted by ashensizzlor:

I only have a population of 50 or so. I just barely got metal for the sluice gates..

is there a rush? it doesn't really look like you are gonna have problems in that 9 day drought with your setup as it is.

is it your plants irrigation that's drying up towards the end of it?

The issue is I want to expand my population and need more water to do so. Most of the green is taken up by food and forestry. I have my food and trees in drought and bad tide resistant places to prevent mass die offs. The last drought drained my reservoir dry leaving only my farms with water. The other issue is my set up is not generating any power even during a temperate season. none of my industry is working and my food factories are only functioning due to a power wheel.

I was able to get a decent bit of water back logged into the reservoir before I installed sluice gates to hopefully automate the process but now I cant get the water to back log and the flow is all weird and its preventing my water wheels from turning.

[chaney]

Here are some general thoughts - hope there is something helpful here.

The water source should still be making about the same amount of water as it did before you built up. If it could power your wheels before, it should still be able to ... it takes a lot of time and surface area to evaporate a good fraction of a typical flow.

So, given that, outside of Drought and Badtide (which I assume you keep from getting into this area) you "should" be able to keep the wheels moving ... with the trade-off that you won't fill the reservoir as fast or maybe at all. So in good weather, if the reservoir isn't filling *and* you don't get enough flow to move your wheels it seems like the water must be going somewhere else or accumulating somewhere you are not noticing.

50 is enough population to get a lot done, no rush.

Take a look at the terrain and try to work with it, you don't need heavy industrial solutions like you might have seen on Youtube, a few well placed Levees might give you a nice deep pool. (Deep is good to survive evaporation in droughts, shallow large pools don't last as long.)

Sluices do go at the bottom of the walls separating one body of water from the next if you want to be able to fully drain the infeed body, but as mentioned they limit how deeply you can fill the downstream body. You can add more Sluices higher up to fill the downstream body, or regulate that with Flood Gates.

[Cockadoodledoo]

Originally posted by chaney:

Sluices do go at the bottom of the walls separating one body of water from the next if you want to be able to fully drain the infeed body, but as mentioned they limit how deeply you can fill the downstream body. You can add more Sluices higher up to fill the downstream body, or regulate that with Flood Gates.

Not true, in open position sluices will fill a downstream body as high as upstream pressure allows. What you say is only true for automation by downstream waterlevel.

[chaney]

Oops, thanks for the correction! Forgot about turning off the downstream depth condition to close them, locked my thinking into a recent experiment and gave bad advice - sorry!

[ashensizzlor]

Originally posted by Cockadoodledoo:

Originally posted by chaney:

Sluices do go at the bottom of the walls separating one body of water from the next if you want to be able to fully drain the infeed body, but as mentioned they limit how deeply you can fill the downstream body. You can add more Sluices higher up to fill the downstream body, or regulate that with Flood Gates.

Not true, in open position sluices will fill a downstream body as high as upstream pressure allows. What you say is only true for automation by downstream waterlevel.

So I only have one sluice set to fill down stream. the rest are set based on contamination or forced into always open. The only thing I can think of is the lake to the north of my Reservoir. Im on the lakes map. There is a lake just to the north of my Reservoir and it empties out to the west. If I set up flood gates there and direct all of the water to my dam should the sluices allow the water to fill up?

[Cockadoodledoo]

So unless its pressurized/piped water, water-level upstream must be at or higher than your first reservoir`s desired level. So if that water runs off before it hits your reservoir it will only fill up to the level as where it runs off. If you don`t block it you have to pump it to get it in your reservoir.

[Puppy Cat Underfoot]

I mostly use mechanical fluid pumps for reservoirs, faster than waiting for the river to fill it and the limit is the top of the highest block rather than sluices settings.

[ashensizzlor]

My hand full of builders have been blocking the flow up stream to increase the water pressure. Its slowly starting to fill but the long distances are slowing construction to a crawl and I don't have a really good way to expand my industry. Im thinking of keeping my food production in town near the farms and moving the rest of the industry to a new industrial park but the lakes map has no real decent places for one. Im playing Iron Teeth so end game Im going to use bad water discharges but I need something for the short term. Im also getting a lot of bad tides so Im thinking about building a bad water reservoir to use as an industrial battery and eventually hook bad water sources up to it.

[ashensizzlor]

Well my town just got washed away in a tsunami of sludge. The output of my diversion system was so high that it overflowed and flooded half the map with bad water. Unfortunately it was the half I was using. This whole dam building thing is really hard