How do natural/wild trees propagate?

[beirirangu]

I've had it happen way too many times where I harvest from a forest, only to have no trees left before I can get a forester. So it makes me wonder how/why the seedlings start to grow: Do they get randomly planted within a certain distance of an existing tree? Do they only grow on flat ground (id est not on/over/replacing a stump) ? Do they only get 'planted' when a tree gets chopped down?

I KNOW it's going to be an extremely slow replant rate, but it's much better than destroying the forest and having no wood at all

[Biostar Ten]

There's a forester you can unlock with science, plant trees. Maple trees give 8 logs per tree.
Works like cutting, mark an area for planting trees
Make a map. I made a few just using Maple trees (on reddit and discord)

[beirirangu]

Originally posted by Biostar Ten:

There's a forester you can unlock...

I believe you missed the ENTIRE point of the post:

Originally posted by beirirangu:

I've had it happen way too many times where I harvest from a forest, only to have no trees left BEFORE I CAN GET A FORESTER...

[Stabbity]

In order for natural saplings you need:

1. open space
2. adult trees nearby
3. time

If you want to be careful you could designate individual trees to be chopped down as opposed to an entire area. Spread out the chopping and you'll likely preserve the forest. Also consider chopping down a few trees in a forest then moving on to a different forest to give it time to recover.

[Staris]

How I do so is I will select the entire forest to cut down and then go back thru and cancel a couple of the mature trees to ensure I am getting new wild saplings as quickly as possible. I don't know its necessary but I do dig up the stumps around those trees I am leaving.

[koimeiji]

an adult tree has a chance to spawn a young tree near it

of course, it's a chance, and it'll take ages to grow...so, yknow, you really should just get a forester? it's one job, 60 science, not sure why you can't get one

[Zulton]

i have seen that the trees spread from the parent tree in a n,s,e or w direction, not diagonally nor more than 1 block, it may be a bit different as i did not invest time to make absolutely sure. that said, i think the best cut pattern would be a common checkerboard pattern.

[Ancient]

The first sensible unlock is always the forester.






There is a good reason for that.

[beirirangu]

Originally posted by Zulton:

I think the best cut pattern would be a common checkerboard pattern.

Yeah, either a checkerboard pattern or a... I'm not sure if it has a name, but spaced apart such that their covered areas don't overlap, just like the layout you'd use in minecraft to grow sugarcane

[MisterSpock]

Originally posted by Ancient:

The first sensible unlock is always the forester.






There is a good reason for that.

This is not a question about the forester

[slcowden]

If you want the forests to regenerate naturally it’s important to remove the tree stumps and leave at least one tree standing. You can remove them with the remove resources action or you can kind of cheat and build paths over the stumps then delete the paths.

But this process is so slow you should just unlock the forester first thing (maybe second after the dam). Also planting maples will pretty much guarantee wood abundance.

[MisterSpock]

It does spread in a range of 1

[Yrame IV, a true I of the dragon]

I usually designate my loggers to chop in ribbons, with a pattern of 2 chop 1 ignore. Once everything mature is chopped, I un-designate eveything for a day or two. Or until I need more wood. Then I make similar ribbons perpendicular to the originals.

[Mulakulu]

Now there are two questions that need answering. Obsiously, it has a range of 1, but is that the 4 orthogonal or all 8 like a chess king?

_G_ GGG
GTG GTG
_G_ GGG

The second is how does the game check for whether trees should be born? does it check a dirt tile and sees if there's at least 1 tree nearby, and if there is, yes, or does it check each tree and randomly picks a spot around? There is a big difference here. Let's assume it spreads in the 8 tiles around a tree, rather than 4. If it's the former, where it doesn't matter how many trees are nearby, as long as there's at least one, then the optimal pattern would be:

GGGGGG
GTGGTG
GGGGGG
GGGGGG
GTGGTG
GGGGGG

where G is grass and T is tree. There would be no reason to overlap. If however the trees are checked, and having many trees around a single grass tile will increase the likelyhood that it gets picked, then I'm not sure what the optimal pattern would be, but that sounds like a fun experiment to do with python or something.

Let's assume here though that the spread is the 4 spots around. If it is, and the grass tiles only care whether or not there's at least a single tree nearby, then the optimal pattern would be like beirirangu said:

GTGGG
GGGTG
TGGGG
GGTGG
GGGGT

Where the rule is, simply put trees according to how a knight jumps. If however more trees around a single grass increases likelyhood, then we again have another optimization problem where python would help, although the most likely best one would be a simple checkerboard:

TGTGTG
GTGTGT
TGTGTG
GTGTGT

I might do some testing to see what happens. This sounds like a fun challenge

[Mulakulu]

I did some testing. Trees spread orthogonally and not diagonally. Grass tiles also only care that at least 1 tree is nearby, so I assume they use the same system as Minecraft where they select a couple random tiles per tick and check for trees around, rather than checking each tree and running an algorithm. Therefore, the sugarcane pattern is superior.

https://imgur.com/a/7RIk4Ou

[XorOfSteel]

natural trees do not regrow/spred at a speed to be of any value.

plan accordingly.