i have the original htv vive vr headset. is this worth upgrading or should i wait a little longer?

[ThEdUDe]

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Was worth it to me, but clearly it depends on your economy and how much you use VR etc 🤷‍♂️ I had used my Vive for three years already so I was ready to upgrade.

[꧁༒☬ GΞX ☬༒꧂]

"Owning a XYZ Headset for X years and it was worth to ..." - no. Simply no. THAT is a self depending choice, not a software or hardware related "is it an upgrade" answer.

The Valve Index offers a wider field of view, sure, but glass wearers are literally f*cked. The space inside for it doesn't fit for grown-glass frames, more like the ones for children do fit (and I still own that old sucker from the past, yet not everyone owns his old one).
The field of view also comes with an expense: You can literally see the edges. Don't believe paid tubers and other review honkers saying "BUT if you play you won't notice" BS. You will always notice them.
I thought, the "LED vs LCD" thing wouldn't bother me ... but honestly, it was the worst when playing games like TWD, HL:A, Skyrim or any other dark-ambient games out there. Bright spots also tend to overlay darker areas, not like a proper light diffusion calculation (or RTX ray tracing shows), no, more like a smudge on your lenses, it isn't good.
On the other hand, you will have a great time with not noticing the screendoor effect. Only if you really try stupidly hard enough by taking them either off and using a magnifier or really pressing the HMD towards your face and watching with different color options.

The controllers are a mess. The "real feel touch" controllers ain't that useful, more likely hindering and accidentally messing up your ingame stuff (e.g. dropping weapons from your hips while not intending it by all means). The "touchpad"-scroller area is a horrible and unnecessary addition and will most likely interfer with old games as "this is the known touchpad like on the Vive/Oculus" and ... you simply cannot steer/walk/do anything with those areas.
The control-sticks are a downgrade, imo. The huge touchpads on the HTC Vive were much better and they won't fry, crack, damage or any other kind of "say bye" to you after a while. Simply google for stick drifting, stick broken, stick repairs and you will see plenty of blogs, threads, videos and such commenting this topic.
Haven't seen by far any repair/complain/return stuff about the touchpad controllers of other brands.


If you want additional information, feel free to check it out.
https://steamcommunity.com/app/1059530/discussions/0/2264691750503759726/

But if you like to wait for hardware friendly (literally using weaker GPUs and yet getting 90FPS+++) and yet as good as currently looking graphics from the future (or even better, who knows?), StarVR is the current thing. Not the device itself, but the software and hardware used in it (not going to buy that thing for $3200, I am not insane), that is for me the real next gen VR section, if they start selling those things in a proper manner and price class... fml, $3200 ... 😒
The valve index, pimax and Co. are not the current "next gen" headsets. They are simple upgrades in a tiny manner.

[wings_of_tossed_salads]

Originally posted by NovaZek:

"Owning a XYZ Headset for X years and it was worth to ..." - no. Simply no. THAT is a self depending choice, not a software or hardware related "is it an upgrade" answer.

The Valve Index offers a wider field of view, sure, but glass wearers are literally f*cked. The space inside for it doesn't fit for grown-glass frames, more like the ones for children do fit (and I still own that old sucker from the past, yet not everyone owns his old one).
The field of view also comes with an expense: You can literally see the edges. Don't believe paid tubers and other review honkers saying "BUT if you play you won't notice" BS. You will always notice them.
I thought, the "LED vs LCD" thing wouldn't bother me ... but honestly, it was the worst when playing games like TWD, HL:A, Skyrim or any other dark-ambient games out there. Bright spots also tend to overlay darker areas, not like a proper light diffusion calculation (or RTX ray tracing shows), no, more like a smudge on your lenses, it isn't good.
On the other hand, you will have a great time with not noticing the screendoor effect. Only if you really try stupidly hard enough by taking them either off and using a magnifier or really pressing the HMD towards your face and watching with different color options.

The controllers are a mess. The "real feel touch" controllers ain't that useful, more likely hindering and accidentally messing up your ingame stuff (e.g. dropping weapons from your hips while not intending it by all means). The "touchpad"-scroller area is a horrible and unnecessary addition and will most likely interfer with old games as "this is the known touchpad like on the Vive/Oculus" and ... you simply cannot steer/walk/do anything with those areas.
The control-sticks are a downgrade, imo. The huge touchpads on the HTC Vive were much better and they won't fry, crack, damage or any other kind of "say bye" to you after a while. Simply google for stick drifting, stick broken, stick repairs and you will see plenty of blogs, threads, videos and such commenting this topic.
Haven't seen by far any repair/complain/return stuff about the touchpad controllers of other brands.


If you want additional information, feel free to check it out.
https://steamcommunity.com/app/1059530/discussions/0/2264691750503759726/

But if you like to wait for hardware friendly (literally using weaker GPUs and yet getting 90FPS+++) and yet as good as currently looking graphics from the future (or even better, who knows?), StarVR is the current thing. Not the device itself, but the software and hardware used in it (not going to buy that thing for $3200, I am not insane), that is for me the real next gen VR section, if they start selling those things in a proper manner and price class... fml, $3200 ... 😒
The valve index, pimax and Co. are not the current "next gen" headsets. They are simple upgrades in a tiny manner.

i wasnt a big fan of the knuckle controllers either. i found them as more of a downgrade since a majority of games dont work with them and they are absoutley terrible for beat saber which is like one of my main games i play. for most of the games that werent index controller compatiable they where always off position in the game and made the game harder to play. so thats why i sold them, i made $150 cash which is great tho. but when the games did work with the knuckles it was cool but eh and i always found my self constantly adjusting the knuckle strap to make it comftorable but never really did.

[ThEdUDe]

i ended up getting the oculus quest. Its awesome and the controllers are amazing too. you can stream your steam games to the unit.

[wings_of_tossed_salads]

Originally posted by ┌∩┐(◕_◕) ┌∩┐:

i ended up getting the oculus quest. Its awesome and the controllers are amazing too. you can stream your steam games to the unit.

imagine being able to afford the most premium headset avliable but choose an oculus quest 😂.

[ThEdUDe]

Originally posted by hithere918:

Originally posted by ┌∩┐(◕_◕) ┌∩┐:

i ended up getting the oculus quest. Its awesome and the controllers are amazing too. you can stream your steam games to the unit.

lol what a idiot.

Why am I an idiot? Being tethered to your pc and or your pc area is ancient and STUPID. Sorta like you.

[ThEdUDe]

Originally posted by hithere918:

Originally posted by ┌∩┐(◕_◕) ┌∩┐:

i ended up getting the oculus quest. Its awesome and the controllers are amazing too. you can stream your steam games to the unit.

imagine being able to afford the most premium headset avliable but choose an oculus quest 😂.

Thank you. That speaks volumes.

[Jrekt]

Originally posted by ┌∩┐(◕_◕) ┌∩┐:

i ended up getting the oculus quest. Its awesome and the controllers are amazing too. you can stream your steam games to the unit.

Yikes, enjoy your mobile phone powered HMD. Mine will be powered by a 3080 ti :)

[ThEdUDe]

Bravo 👏 enjoy your leash.while I stream my steam games untethered 🖕

[Jrekt]

Originally posted by ┌∩┐(◕_◕) ┌∩┐:

Bravo 👏 enjoy your leash.while I stream my steam games untethered 🖕

Enjoy ur 10fps

[ThEdUDe]

72 fps actually. I'm not a vr enthusiast so that's plenty for me. Maybe you should read up on it? You really dont know what your missing. Look up reviews. You'll be impressed. Just Like your smart ass comment before "imagine being able to afford any vr set and settling for the quest. Yep I could buy anything on the market. I settled for a great vr set. I already have the htc vive. The display in the quest blows the htc vive out of the water! The only advantage the htc vive has over the quest is NOTHING! streaming steam games to the quest is absoluty incredible no lag! So why talk ♥♥♥♥? I bought what I wanted.

[Jrekt]

Originally posted by ┌∩┐(◕_◕) ┌∩┐:

72 fps actually. I'm not a vr enthusiast so that's plenty for me. Maybe you should read up on it? You really dont know what your missing. Look up reviews. You'll be impressed. Just Like your smart ass comment before "imagine being able to afford any vr set and settling for the quest. Yep I could buy anything on the market. I settled for a great vr set. I already have the htc vive. The display in the quest blows the htc vive out of the water! The only advantage the htc vive has over the quest is NOTHING! streaming steam games to the quest is absoluty incredible no lag! So why talk ♥♥♥♥? I bought what I wanted.

Scroll up and do YOUR research it wasn’t me that said “imagine being able to afford blah blah blah”. Wasn’t me, good day.

[sin_rtb]

Originally posted by hithere918:

Originally posted by ┌∩┐(◕_◕) ┌∩┐:

i ended up getting the oculus quest. Its awesome and the controllers are amazing too. you can stream your steam games to the unit.

imagine being able to afford the most premium headset avliable but choose an oculus quest 😂.

LOL just ordered the quest after 10 weeks of waiting for my Index to change from "Ships in 8 or more weeks". A product that can actually be purchased is better than a product that has only theoretical better performance.

[ThEdUDe]

Originally posted by sin_rtb:

Originally posted by hithere918:

imagine being able to afford the most premium headset avliable but choose an oculus quest 😂.

LOL just ordered the quest after 10 weeks of waiting for my Index to change from "Ships in 8 or more weeks". A product that can actually be purchased is better than a product that has only theoretical better performance.

youll love it! make sure you come back and tell Lunatik and hithere918 whats up!

[ThEdUDe]

Originally posted by ┌∩┐(◕_◕) ┌∩┐:

Originally posted by sin_rtb:

LOL just ordered the quest after 10 weeks of waiting for my Index to change from "Ships in 8 or more weeks". A product that can actually be purchased is better than a product that has only theoretical better performance.

youll love it! make sure you come back and tell Lunatik and hithere918 whats up!

How do you like the quest?