Civic Crown in Hispania Achievement?

[De_Noob]

Does anyone know how to get the Civic Crown in the Hispania campaign? I've played and completed the game a few times and earned 2 Civic Crowns from both the second and third campaign but never seem to be able to find a way to obtain the first

[flori2412]

Watch out, spoiler below:

Volunteer to be a scout in the third battle. After your scouting mission you need to pass a difficult awareness check to notice the noise of a distant fight. Run towards it as fast as you can. If you pass the following quickness check, you will see a legionary fighting three caetrati. Rush to his aid and take out the caetrati before they can kill him.

[Sul]

Originally posted by flori2412:

Watch out, spoiler below:

Volunteer to be a scout in the third battle. After your scouting mission you need to pass a difficult awareness check to notice the noise of a distant fight. Run towards it as fast as you can. If you pass the following quickness check, you will see a legionary fighting three caetrati. Rush to his aid and take out the caetrati before they can kill him.

damn that's really difficult
how much awareness and quickness should I be shooting for?

[thebadman]

I have been passing it even with 60ish speed every time but for awareness even above 65 after helmet penalty it is ofren still too hard so check is probably around 70+. Either do not upgrade your headgear till you get to this check or downgrade to one of looted helmets from enemy swordsmen, I think they do not have awareness penalty and you really do not want to fight without headgear as it is 2nd easiest body part to hit with 50% boost to damage.

[De_Noob]

Damn. And I'm guessing you still need above average combat skills before you can hope to take on them.

Guess I'm better of farming scores like usual until I have a high-enough points for character creation to make them OP

[thebadman]

Oh, they are just 3 swordsman chumps. Nothing big.

Thing is you have wounded legionary with you that will get targeted and you might not be able to aggro enemies even with full offensive stance all the time or kill them before they kill your ally.

[Sul]

Originally posted by K♂P thebadman:

Oh, they are just 3 swordsman chumps. Nothing big.

Thing is you have wounded legionary with you that will get targeted and you might not be able to aggro enemies even with full offensive stance all the time or kill them before they kill your ally.

how much turns until he dies?

[flori2412]

Originally posted by sul:

Originally posted by K♂P thebadman:

Oh, they are just 3 swordsman chumps. Nothing big.

Thing is you have wounded legionary with you that will get targeted and you might not be able to aggro enemies even with full offensive stance all the time or kill them before they kill your ally.

how much turns until he dies?

That depends on the way the fight goes. It's impossible to determine a certain number of turns before the legionary dies.

My advice for the fight against the three caetrati is to play more aggressively than you would usually. If all three enemies are at full stance, don't hide behind your shield, but use some feints to stop them from attacking. As soon as one of them has lower stance than you, attack him immediately.

[Elna]

Actually I've failed the awa check repeatedly at 75. So I guess 80's to be safe?

[flori2412]

Originally posted by Elna:

Actually I've failed the awa check repeatedly at 75. So I guess 80's to be safe?

I don't know at which number you get a 100% success chance. However, keep in mind that your morale has an effect on skill and stat checks. You may have failed the check with an awareness of 75 because your morale was low (or not too high).

[Elna]

Ok...superb moral, 77 awa, 77 int, failed both the examine camp from distance check, and the awa check to notice th fight...

[[SGS]051[V]]

55 AWA pass the check, I guess it's all about odds.

[Carnot Motorcycle]

The awareness check, might depend on morale, but I had a guy with 70s awa and he still failed. Eventually I got a guy thats high 70s like 75+ and he passed. I always train till low morale though, so maybe 55 can pass???

[Sertorius]

Originally posted by Carnot Motorcycle:

The awareness check, might depend on morale, but I had a guy with 70s awa and he still failed. Eventually I got a guy thats high 70s like 75+ and he passed. I always train till low morale though, so maybe 55 can pass???

It can be passed with 55, but you need a lot of luck. The chance becomes higher than 50% when AWA is above 70. Success is certain with 80 AWA. Usually, checks in text events have a middle value for which the chance of success is 50%. Each point above or below increase the chance by 2.5%, so success is guaranteed 20 points above that middle value. (Checks in combat use different rules and more complex formulas.) Very often I set a lower limit for success and a higher threshold for certain failure. In the case of that specific AWA check the requirements are 55, 70, 80 instead of the natural 50, 70, 90. Morale changes the odds by a few points only. The AWA penalty of helmets can be a bit of a hindrance in that scenario.