Ori and the Will of the Wisps

Ori and the Will of the Wisps

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[Spoiler] I'm just crying! (for ones who finished the game)
If you haven't finished the game already, don't be stupid to read this:

I've just finished the game and the ending broke my heart. There were some clues during the playthrough for what would come (the last will of Kwolok and what the "hieroglypsh" on the stone explained) i didn't catch it until Niwel told me, though. And broke me into tears when understood what was Ori destined to and saw her (or him) doing her last walking and remembering what she was going to left behind for the good of all.

For sure someones didn't like this ending or felt maybe too early ending understanding that this is the second game. But i like to remember that this is a game of moral of life and death, nature cycle and the farewell what's in between.

Finally, Ori became our truly and unforgettable hero. She carried everything for the good of her friends and the good of the woods. She fullfilled her promise to be a guardian and she will be there, embracing by her friends, as a beautiful tree embracing the light, giving us life and hope... *broke into tears again*

Please, share and embrace me with what were your thoughts while finishing the game.
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B E D M A R Feb 17, 2021 @ 7:46am 
I will be honest and give a Short opinion about it, although I´m afraid I will extend too much.

I like the ending in so many ways, yet I dislike it in so other ways as well.
Don´t get me wrong, Ori´s destiny was this one from the very beginning, It´s simply the Cycle of Life and Death, I liked the concept that Ori turns into a Tree mainly because that´s how Ori should end, not only that, you also Save Ku and the people of Niwel which is also great.
To be Honest, idk which game is better, both are Masterpieces, I love both games, the Visuals, the Story, the Music, the battle system especially in Ori 2, everything is so magnificent and perfect in every single way, This is a true well made game, It´s been a long time since I experienced a Modern game that causes me all these feelings, not going to lie, I cried in both games, I extremely cry with games, I´m usually a cold person and pretty logical, but Ori really knows how to touch your heart, I don´t know what to say, I finished Ori and the Will of the Wisps yesterday, I loved the game and I wish I could replay it without any knowledge of it so I can experience the same emotions again, truly a game that has a Message, truly an Experience.

But at the same time, I feel pretty sad and disgusted (maybe this word is too much), IMO if this ending was in The Blind Forest I wouldn´t mind, It would be a perfect circle, but the Second game? I don´t think so, I would say It would be perfect if this was a Trilogy, mainly because the first game was like the beginning, the Second one would be the Brightest point of the franchise and then the third game would be like the end of all, problem here is, It feels Rushed and anticlimatic in some way, my point of view of this is: Ku and Ori travels to a new region to find answers about Ku´s Origins, at the end, Ori turns into a Tree, and those answers are pretty much Unknown at this point of the game, This is just my Point of view, I understand it´s Selfish and a lot of things, but I think Ori has the potential for a Third game, this one feels Rushed in that aspect, It kinda makes me feel sad because I loved Ori as much as anyone, but this ending feels like a Forced and Quick Goodbye, I finished the game in 12 hours or so, and basically the last hour is when they tell you that Ori will no longer exist, It gives me the feeling that the Developers decided the last minute to remove Ori from the Equation,I don´t feel this is a Complete Story, this is not like DDS (Digital Devil Saga), a Great Duology that both games are pretty much the half of the cake, in this case, It feels complete, and It´s funny, both Franchises has the same Motto, Life and Death, the Cycle of Nature, to sum up, Ori feels like the development is around 60%, There´s so much to talk about, that is why I would love a Third game.

Other issues (Minor ones):
Technically, Ori is no longer Ori, He merged with the Light, He´s no longer the same Entity, I know the Character didn´t die, but in terms of ´´Story´´ It pretty much did, this is probably a very Subjective point, but to be honest, I feel extremely sad that Ori is no longer there anymore, turned into a Tree forever, He doesn´t even doubt it when Seir says: Join me and be one, Would you sacrifice yourself to save others? of course, but It´s a logical being, lose your existence can be scary and unknown for anyone, Why Ori accepted directly?
The only thing that could explain that is because It´s an Animal Reflex or something similar, because that´s how Ori should act, we can say It´s Reproduction, which is basically the Real objective of any living thing, Reproduce so your Species survives and continues.

Shriek in my opinion should had a Redemption arc or at least, some kind of redemption arc, a Villain like Shriek, pretty much the Victim all this time (More or less like Kuro but way deeper), and pretty much dies without Mercy, I understand they wanted to try new formulas, But I feel like a character like Shriek is highly incompatible, I would at least give Shriek some kind of ´´reconstruction´´, Start all over again, it would be Bittersweet but at least has a Chance to have a Life, a life that She never gets If there´s something I love about Ori, Is Redemption and Forgiveness, and Shriek situation is the opposite, and feels like they wanted to add some Cruelty emotions here, to make you feel Miserable because you can´t do anything.
My Ideal result would be: Shriek understands that there´re Second chances, Start again, She never comes back, She doesn´t turn into a Good cute Ally of Ori in any means, but I would love to see that Shriek with a vestige of Redemption, not dying inside their Parent corpses, It´s really Hearth-Breaking.

The last thing it bugs me a bit is the fact that this game was like a Casual Adventure and turns into a Great mission to save this strange and far land, I liked the concept a lot, but the NPCs could be a bit better in this aspect, like Mora, you met her for 5 minutes and that´s all, there´s so many things that doesn´t connect that well, not like The Blind Forest, Gumo, Nuro, Kuro and Ku are characters that I have a stronger connection, not Kwolok and the others, don´t get me wrong here by the way, I love Will of the Wisp characters, but because of this Ending, I find it unfair, the fact that Ori can´t say goodbye to Gumo, Nuro or Ku, just thinking about it, Nuro, basically Ori´s adoptive mother, she never saw Ori never again, other than the Spirit Tree.
Also, what about that Moki Family that were petrified, When I completed the Side quest It kinda broke my heart a bit, Especially when you see that Moki returning to his original home to Die with them, there´re like small details that no one knows, Intentional or not, no clue, probably intentional to add more sadness.
BTW what about Nibel, they don´t talk about it never again, I understand Niwel is the main point, but still, nothing.

Long Story Short, The ending was like a Harsh Cold and Dramatic Ending that I think could be somehow avoided, at least for this game, I don´t think it´s the correct ending, not yet.
I must say there´s still two main points that I still believe and I really hope that´s the case.
First of all, If there´s a Definitive edition, I just hope they add an alternative ending where everything looks better in those aspects I mentioned, with some Bittersweet moments, more or less like The Blind Forest, even if Ori has to face that Destiny, I still hope there´s something brighter than this one, Of course It would be amazing if this alternate ending leads to a Third game where everything ends in a similar way but well executed.

The other option is, that leaf that appears in the end of the game, I hope is the reincarnation of Ori, leading to new adventures and stories, a character that could look different but Deeply inside is Ori in some way.

Then again, I love the game and so The Blind Forest, I wouldn´t be here if that wasn´t the case, for me, this game is an Absolute 10 out of 10 and I like the ending in some way as I said, but I didn´t like the Execution of it, there´re some elements that we don´t know, But I find understandable that there´s people that likes or dislikes this ending in some way, since It´s a tough story and I accept the ending regardless of the issues I have, I must say that I´m too attached with the character beyond normal levels,anyways, I simply loved this game a lot, still, I loved both games from the Bottom of my Heart, There´s basically nothing wrong or bad with these games, I hope Moon Studios make even greater stories than these two, although that would be really hard, since this Story is nearly Perfect but there´s something clear for me, We´re lucky that we are able to play these gems, Art itself, I cried for hours only with the OST, only a Masterpiece can do that.
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twitch.tv/beethom Feb 17, 2021 @ 1:01pm 
Originally posted by B E D M A R:
I will be honest and give a Short opinion about it, although I´m afraid I will extend too much.

I like the ending in so many ways, yet I dislike it in so other ways as well.
Don´t get me wrong, Ori´s destiny was this one from the very beginning, It´s simply the Cycle of Life and Death, I liked the concept that Ori turns into a Tree mainly because that´s how Ori should end, not only that, you also Save Ku and the people of Niwel which is also great.
To be Honest, idk which game is better, both are Masterpieces, I love both games, the Visuals, the Story, the Music, the battle system especially in Ori 2, everything is so magnificent and perfect in every single way, This is a true well made game, It´s been a long time since I experienced a Modern game that causes me all these feelings, not going to lie, I cried in both games, I extremely cry with games, I´m usually a cold person and pretty logical, but Ori really knows how to touch your heart, I don´t know what to say, I finished Ori and the Will of the Wisps yesterday, I loved the game and I wish I could replay it without any knowledge of it so I can experience the same emotions again, truly a game that has a Message, truly an Experience.

But at the same time, I feel pretty sad and disgusted (maybe this word is too much), IMO if this ending was in The Blind Forest I wouldn´t mind, It would be a perfect circle, but the Second game? I don´t think so, I would say It would be perfect if this was a Trilogy, mainly because the first game was like the beginning, the Second one would be the Brightest point of the franchise and then the third game would be like the end of all, problem here is, It feels Rushed and anticlimatic in some way, my point of view of this is: Ku and Ori travels to a new region to find answers about Ku´s Origins, at the end, Ori turns into a Tree, and those answers are pretty much Unknown at this point of the game, This is just my Point of view, I understand it´s Selfish and a lot of things, but I think Ori has the potential for a Third game, this one feels Rushed in that aspect, It kinda makes me feel sad because I loved Ori as much as anyone, but this ending feels like a Forced and Quick Goodbye, I finished the game in 12 hours or so, and basically the last hour is when they tell you that Ori will no longer exist, It gives me the feeling that the Developers decided the last minute to remove Ori from the Equation,I don´t feel this is a Complete Story, this is not like DDS (Digital Devil Saga), a Great Duology that both games are pretty much the half of the cake, in this case, It feels complete, and It´s funny, both Franchises has the same Motto, Life and Death, the Cycle of Nature, to sum up, Ori feels like the development is around 60%, There´s so much to talk about, that is why I would love a Third game.

Other issues (Minor ones):
Technically, Ori is no longer Ori, He merged with the Light, He´s no longer the same Entity, I know the Character didn´t die, but in terms of ´´Story´´ It pretty much did, this is probably a very Subjective point, but to be honest, I feel extremely sad that Ori is no longer there anymore, turned into a Tree forever, He doesn´t even doubt it when Seir says: Join me and be one, Would you sacrifice yourself to save others? of course, but It´s a logical being, lose your existence can be scary and unknown for anyone, Why Ori accepted directly?
The only thing that could explain that is because It´s an Animal Reflex or something similar, because that´s how Ori should act, we can say It´s Reproduction, which is basically the Real objective of any living thing, Reproduce so your Species survives and continues.

Shriek in my opinion should had a Redemption arc or at least, some kind of redemption arc, a Villain like Shriek, pretty much the Victim all this time (More or less like Kuro but way deeper), and pretty much dies without Mercy, I understand they wanted to try new formulas, But I feel like a character like Shriek is highly incompatible, I would at least give Shriek some kind of ´´reconstruction´´, Start all over again, it would be Bittersweet but at least has a Chance to have a Life, a life that She never gets If there´s something I love about Ori, Is Redemption and Forgiveness, and Shriek situation is the opposite, and feels like they wanted to add some Cruelty emotions here, to make you feel Miserable because you can´t do anything.
My Ideal result would be: Shriek understands that there´re Second chances, Start again, She never comes back, She doesn´t turn into a Good cute Ally of Ori in any means, but I would love to see that Shriek with a vestige of Redemption, not dying inside their Parent corpses, It´s really Hearth-Breaking.

The last thing it bugs me a bit is the fact that this game was like a Casual Adventure and turns into a Great mission to save this strange and far land, I liked the concept a lot, but the NPCs could be a bit better in this aspect, like Mora, you met her for 5 minutes and that´s all, there´s so many things that doesn´t connect that well, not like The Blind Forest, Gumo, Nuro, Kuro and Ku are characters that I have a stronger connection, not Kwolok and the others, don´t get me wrong here by the way, I love Will of the Wisp characters, but because of this Ending, I find it unfair, the fact that Ori can´t say goodbye to Gumo, Nuro or Ku, just thinking about it, Nuro, basically Ori´s adoptive mother, she never saw Ori never again, other than the Spirit Tree.
Also, what about that Moki Family that were petrified, When I completed the Side quest It kinda broke my heart a bit, Especially when you see that Moki returning to his original home to Die with them, there´re like small details that no one knows, Intentional or not, no clue, probably intentional to add more sadness.
BTW what about Nibel, they don´t talk about it never again, I understand Niwel is the main point, but still, nothing.

Long Story Short, The ending was like a Harsh Cold and Dramatic Ending that I think could be somehow avoided, at least for this game, I don´t think it´s the correct ending, not yet.
I must say there´s still two main points that I still believe and I really hope that´s the case.
First of all, If there´s a Definitive edition, I just hope they add an alternative ending where everything looks better in those aspects I mentioned, with some Bittersweet moments, more or less like The Blind Forest, even if Ori has to face that Destiny, I still hope there´s something brighter than this one, Of course It would be amazing if this alternate ending leads to a Third game where everything ends in a similar way but well executed.

The other option is, that leaf that appears in the end of the game, I hope is the reincarnation of Ori, leading to new adventures and stories, a character that could look different but Deeply inside is Ori in some way.

Then again, I love the game and so The Blind Forest, I wouldn´t be here if that wasn´t the case, for me, this game is an Absolute 10 out of 10 and I like the ending in some way as I said, but I didn´t like the Execution of it, there´re some elements that we don´t know, But I find understandable that there´s people that likes or dislikes this ending in some way, since It´s a tough story and I accept the ending regardless of the issues I have, I must say that I´m too attached with the character beyond normal levels,anyways, I simply loved this game a lot, still, I loved both games from the Bottom of my Heart, There´s basically nothing wrong or bad with these games, I hope Moon Studios make even greater stories than these two, although that would be really hard, since this Story is nearly Perfect but there´s something clear for me, We´re lucky that we are able to play these gems, Art itself, I cried for hours only with the OST, only a Masterpiece can do that.
Wow! I pretty love what you've just written! I totally agree the most! I asure you i've felt the same way the day after finishing it til now!

What i can say about Ori's sacrifice it's that she was rushed from the context itself; the forest was dying, there weren't guardians (Kwolok's dead, Baur's sleeping the most of the time ans Mora couldn't rise to the surface) and Shriek was constantly threating. It were urge times. So it needed to be quick but without giving us a good farewell. This last it's the reason we both agree that all this should be happened in a third part. Nevertheless, it would have been better a cliff hanger ending until the release of the third part.

About Shrienk's ending. I thought he/she didn't die! there's something i missed? I thought she was only protecting herself from the new light what would come from the new tree. And that the developers kept her alive for a third arc with her redemption or whatever they would do. Because it's a interesting character. Also, in my opinion, her ending was tough though pretty because of its message. What i get is: In this world, nothing its perfect and always there are beings which choose the dark path. Its a fresh water of reality for gamers who always get the happy ending jaja. And original respecting Kuro's ending.

For the rest, as i said, i totally agree. No suffice time to connect a hundred percent for the around fifteen hours of playing and few touching moments. It would have been great Kwolok's final before facing the last boss Shriek. And would have been great BY A LOT being helped by Mokis, Baur, Mora, the monkey, etc in the final boss. Why not? Why had Ori have to do the most of the work even she mainly did that because of Ku? It was their forest too! *start outragous crying*

Anyway, it's a perfect solid and beautiful game for ones who didn't play the first one. And for us too, but with some discomforts details.

I will play again in the hard mode and try to see missing details (like the presence and pain of Mokis who witnessed Kwolok's death at the background) and cry again because its imposible to not do it even if you have played a lot of times.

Thankful for your sharing! you're welcome to say whatever you wish!
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B E D M A R Feb 17, 2021 @ 4:12pm 
Originally posted by Beetom:
Originally posted by B E D M A R:
I will be honest and give a Short opinion about it, although I´m afraid I will extend too much.

I like the ending in so many ways, yet I dislike it in so other ways as well.
Don´t get me wrong, Ori´s destiny was this one from the very beginning, It´s simply the Cycle of Life and Death, I liked the concept that Ori turns into a Tree mainly because that´s how Ori should end, not only that, you also Save Ku and the people of Niwel which is also great.
To be Honest, idk which game is better, both are Masterpieces, I love both games, the Visuals, the Story, the Music, the battle system especially in Ori 2, everything is so magnificent and perfect in every single way, This is a true well made game, It´s been a long time since I experienced a Modern game that causes me all these feelings, not going to lie, I cried in both games, I extremely cry with games, I´m usually a cold person and pretty logical, but Ori really knows how to touch your heart, I don´t know what to say, I finished Ori and the Will of the Wisps yesterday, I loved the game and I wish I could replay it without any knowledge of it so I can experience the same emotions again, truly a game that has a Message, truly an Experience.

But at the same time, I feel pretty sad and disgusted (maybe this word is too much), IMO if this ending was in The Blind Forest I wouldn´t mind, It would be a perfect circle, but the Second game? I don´t think so, I would say It would be perfect if this was a Trilogy, mainly because the first game was like the beginning, the Second one would be the Brightest point of the franchise and then the third game would be like the end of all, problem here is, It feels Rushed and anticlimatic in some way, my point of view of this is: Ku and Ori travels to a new region to find answers about Ku´s Origins, at the end, Ori turns into a Tree, and those answers are pretty much Unknown at this point of the game, This is just my Point of view, I understand it´s Selfish and a lot of things, but I think Ori has the potential for a Third game, this one feels Rushed in that aspect, It kinda makes me feel sad because I loved Ori as much as anyone, but this ending feels like a Forced and Quick Goodbye, I finished the game in 12 hours or so, and basically the last hour is when they tell you that Ori will no longer exist, It gives me the feeling that the Developers decided the last minute to remove Ori from the Equation,I don´t feel this is a Complete Story, this is not like DDS (Digital Devil Saga), a Great Duology that both games are pretty much the half of the cake, in this case, It feels complete, and It´s funny, both Franchises has the same Motto, Life and Death, the Cycle of Nature, to sum up, Ori feels like the development is around 60%, There´s so much to talk about, that is why I would love a Third game.

Other issues (Minor ones):
Technically, Ori is no longer Ori, He merged with the Light, He´s no longer the same Entity, I know the Character didn´t die, but in terms of ´´Story´´ It pretty much did, this is probably a very Subjective point, but to be honest, I feel extremely sad that Ori is no longer there anymore, turned into a Tree forever, He doesn´t even doubt it when Seir says: Join me and be one, Would you sacrifice yourself to save others? of course, but It´s a logical being, lose your existence can be scary and unknown for anyone, Why Ori accepted directly?
The only thing that could explain that is because It´s an Animal Reflex or something similar, because that´s how Ori should act, we can say It´s Reproduction, which is basically the Real objective of any living thing, Reproduce so your Species survives and continues.

Shriek in my opinion should had a Redemption arc or at least, some kind of redemption arc, a Villain like Shriek, pretty much the Victim all this time (More or less like Kuro but way deeper), and pretty much dies without Mercy, I understand they wanted to try new formulas, But I feel like a character like Shriek is highly incompatible, I would at least give Shriek some kind of ´´reconstruction´´, Start all over again, it would be Bittersweet but at least has a Chance to have a Life, a life that She never gets If there´s something I love about Ori, Is Redemption and Forgiveness, and Shriek situation is the opposite, and feels like they wanted to add some Cruelty emotions here, to make you feel Miserable because you can´t do anything.
My Ideal result would be: Shriek understands that there´re Second chances, Start again, She never comes back, She doesn´t turn into a Good cute Ally of Ori in any means, but I would love to see that Shriek with a vestige of Redemption, not dying inside their Parent corpses, It´s really Hearth-Breaking.

The last thing it bugs me a bit is the fact that this game was like a Casual Adventure and turns into a Great mission to save this strange and far land, I liked the concept a lot, but the NPCs could be a bit better in this aspect, like Mora, you met her for 5 minutes and that´s all, there´s so many things that doesn´t connect that well, not like The Blind Forest, Gumo, Nuro, Kuro and Ku are characters that I have a stronger connection, not Kwolok and the others, don´t get me wrong here by the way, I love Will of the Wisp characters, but because of this Ending, I find it unfair, the fact that Ori can´t say goodbye to Gumo, Nuro or Ku, just thinking about it, Nuro, basically Ori´s adoptive mother, she never saw Ori never again, other than the Spirit Tree.
Also, what about that Moki Family that were petrified, When I completed the Side quest It kinda broke my heart a bit, Especially when you see that Moki returning to his original home to Die with them, there´re like small details that no one knows, Intentional or not, no clue, probably intentional to add more sadness.
BTW what about Nibel, they don´t talk about it never again, I understand Niwel is the main point, but still, nothing.

Long Story Short, The ending was like a Harsh Cold and Dramatic Ending that I think could be somehow avoided, at least for this game, I don´t think it´s the correct ending, not yet.
I must say there´s still two main points that I still believe and I really hope that´s the case.
First of all, If there´s a Definitive edition, I just hope they add an alternative ending where everything looks better in those aspects I mentioned, with some Bittersweet moments, more or less like The Blind Forest, even if Ori has to face that Destiny, I still hope there´s something brighter than this one, Of course It would be amazing if this alternate ending leads to a Third game where everything ends in a similar way but well executed.

The other option is, that leaf that appears in the end of the game, I hope is the reincarnation of Ori, leading to new adventures and stories, a character that could look different but Deeply inside is Ori in some way.

Then again, I love the game and so The Blind Forest, I wouldn´t be here if that wasn´t the case, for me, this game is an Absolute 10 out of 10 and I like the ending in some way as I said, but I didn´t like the Execution of it, there´re some elements that we don´t know, But I find understandable that there´s people that likes or dislikes this ending in some way, since It´s a tough story and I accept the ending regardless of the issues I have, I must say that I´m too attached with the character beyond normal levels,anyways, I simply loved this game a lot, still, I loved both games from the Bottom of my Heart, There´s basically nothing wrong or bad with these games, I hope Moon Studios make even greater stories than these two, although that would be really hard, since this Story is nearly Perfect but there´s something clear for me, We´re lucky that we are able to play these gems, Art itself, I cried for hours only with the OST, only a Masterpiece can do that.
Wow! I pretty love what you've just written! I totally agree the most! I asure you i've felt the same way the day after finishing it til now!

What i can say about Ori's sacrifice it's that she was rushed from the context itself; the forest was dying, there weren't guardians (Kwolok's dead, Baur's sleeping the most of the time ans Mora couldn't rise to the surface) and Shriek was constantly threating. It were urge times. So it needed to be quick but without giving us a good farewell. This last it's the reason we both agree that all this should be happened in a third part. Nevertheless, it would have been better a cliff hanger ending until the release of the third part.

About Shrienk's ending. I thought he/she didn't die! there's something i missed? I thought she was only protecting herself from the new light what would come from the new tree. And that the developers kept her alive for a third arc with her redemption or whatever they would do. Because it's a interesting character. Also, in my opinion, her ending was tough though pretty because of its message. What i get is: In this world, nothing its perfect and always there are beings which choose the dark path. Its a fresh water of reality for gamers who always get the happy ending jaja. And original respecting Kuro's ending.

For the rest, as i said, i totally agree. No suffice time to connect a hundred percent for the around fifteen hours of playing and few touching moments. It would have been great Kwolok's final before facing the last boss Shriek. And would have been great BY A LOT being helped by Mokis, Baur, Mora, the monkey, etc in the final boss. Why not? Why had Ori have to do the most of the work even she mainly did that because of Ku? It was their forest too! *start outragous crying*

Anyway, it's a perfect solid and beautiful game for ones who didn't play the first one. And for us too, but with some discomforts details.

I will play again in the hard mode and try to see missing details (like the presence and pain of Mokis who witnessed Kwolok's death at the background) and cry again because its imposible to not do it even if you have played a lot of times.

Thankful for your sharing! you're welcome to say whatever you wish!

Indeed, I think as a Duology feels a bit lacking, although It´s not a big issue, about Shriek as far as I know she dies mainly because the strike was so hard she pretty much passed away, I agree the character itself has a unique Development but I think some kind of bittersweet Redemption arc would be more suitable, other than that, It´s more personal, I was thinking about it and well, my main issue was Ori, but you got a point about the Decay and the almost unstoppable threat, so that´s understandable.
At the end my issues are pretty much Small details, nothing huge to be honest (Except Ori but I´m kinda accepting it in some way), I totally agree this game is simply perfect, Almost a crime It didn´t get any Goty reward, I usually don´t care about rewards or these type or recognition, this is by far the best game of 2020 for me, truly a Masterpiece in every single way, as I said, gameplay ost visual characters story, there´s nothing you can really argue, we need more games (and companies) like Moon Studios, about the replay thing, well, I will probably play it on hard, but I can guarantee you I don´t need to replay the game to cry, I can perfectly listen the OST and pretty much gg ez, No joke when I say this game has the best OST I ever heard, It´s simply delicious.

Also thank you for reading my post, although titanic, It´s impossible not to talk about it without writting a Bible.
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Melon Feb 17, 2021 @ 5:56pm 
Technically speaking it was never said Shriek did die, just HEAVILY implied. Im pretty sure all it said was "she chose to stay in darkness" or something like that. So technically she could return in the future.
B E D M A R Feb 17, 2021 @ 6:44pm 
Understandable, It seems like that way for me, but It´s true that fact It´s not clear, so yeah, you´re right, It could be great to see Shriek again.
Last edited by B E D M A R; Feb 17, 2021 @ 6:45pm
kuaikukia Feb 18, 2021 @ 6:16am 
I like the way the ending. Sad but perfect. it's like circle of life. You don't see companies these day make a whole quality piece like this in one package. Sadly many people still like mainstream games more than a masterpiece such as this.
twitch.tv/beethom Feb 18, 2021 @ 6:47am 
Originally posted by kuaikukia:
I like the way the ending. Sad but perfect. it's like circle of life. You don't see companies these day make a whole quality piece like this in one package. Sadly many people still like mainstream games more than a masterpiece such as this.
Yes! For me, it's hard the way they did because i would like this happened on a third part to see at least Ori character in a trilogy. Nevertheless, we can't deny such beautiful masterpiece duology (til moment) they gave us. But i'm happy with that and hope more people to left multiplayers games and give it a try and supporting games like Ori.
Plastic Shitlord Feb 18, 2021 @ 3:14pm 
Originally posted by CallMeDeleto:
Technically speaking it was never said Shriek did die, just HEAVILY implied. Im pretty sure all it said was "she chose to stay in darkness" or something like that. So technically she could return in the future.

Moon confirmed in their post-release AMA that she indeed died
admiral1018 Feb 28, 2021 @ 4:26pm 
I've never really played the Ori games for the story, so I didn't get too emotionally invested in anything that happened to the characters. So just from an objective viewpoint, my main issue was that Ori's sacrifice seemed a bit out of place. If the game had been building up to this more, or if there had been some "final" good-bye moment between Ori and the other characters, it probably would have worked better.

I was convinced that I received the "bad ending" when I beat the game and was surprised to learn that that was it. Obviously not a great sign of a well-told story if that's the first reaction some people have.
Zatmaggot Mar 1, 2021 @ 3:17pm 
Originally posted by admiral1018:
I've never really played the Ori games for the story, so I didn't get too emotionally invested in anything that happened to the characters. So just from an objective viewpoint, my main issue was that Ori's sacrifice seemed a bit out of place. If the game had been building up to this more, or if there had been some "final" good-bye moment between Ori and the other characters, it probably would have worked better.

I was convinced that I received the "bad ending" when I beat the game and was surprised to learn that that was it. Obviously not a great sign of a well-told story if that's the first reaction some people have.
Yeah, I honestly felt the same thing. Started searching everywhere for a 100% completion secret ending or anything I could get my hands on, but I couldn't. I feel like the entire story was sort of a failure. Somehow Moon was still able to get like, a bunch of awards and nonsense. (Or, at least nonsense in my opinion.) I feel like, after having read on some other discussions some other peoples' opinions, that Moon mostly focused on the art and gameplay more than the story and characters we love, leaving the true heart of the game hollow. Honestly, the ending just made me angry and upset, filled me with rage. Not the same beautiful mixture of joy and sadness I felt after BF. A lot of people may see this as me and others with the same opinion just holding on to our first feelings when beating the game, but I feel like the more I delved into the concept, thought about it and read other opinions I just hated it even more...
Originally posted by admiral1018:
I've never really played the Ori games for the story, so I didn't get too emotionally invested in anything that happened to the characters. So just from an objective viewpoint, my main issue was that Ori's sacrifice seemed a bit out of place. If the game had been building up to this more, or if there had been some "final" good-bye moment between Ori and the other characters, it probably would have worked better.

I was convinced that I received the "bad ending" when I beat the game and was surprised to learn that that was it. Obviously not a great sign of a well-told story if that's the first reaction some people have.
Yes. That is what a lot of us believed or wished after finishing it. A hard and quick goodbye. At least for me, has broken the armony between both games. Like falling onto a reef.
Last edited by twitch.tv/beethom; Mar 1, 2021 @ 4:54pm
Originally posted by Zote the Mighty:
Originally posted by admiral1018:
I've never really played the Ori games for the story, so I didn't get too emotionally invested in anything that happened to the characters. So just from an objective viewpoint, my main issue was that Ori's sacrifice seemed a bit out of place. If the game had been building up to this more, or if there had been some "final" good-bye moment between Ori and the other characters, it probably would have worked better.

I was convinced that I received the "bad ending" when I beat the game and was surprised to learn that that was it. Obviously not a great sign of a well-told story if that's the first reaction some people have.
Yeah, I honestly felt the same thing. Started searching everywhere for a 100% completion secret ending or anything I could get my hands on, but I couldn't. I feel like the entire story was sort of a failure. Somehow Moon was still able to get like, a bunch of awards and nonsense. (Or, at least nonsense in my opinion.) I feel like, after having read on some other discussions some other peoples' opinions, that Moon mostly focused on the art and gameplay more than the story and characters we love, leaving the true heart of the game hollow. Honestly, the ending just made me angry and upset, filled me with rage. Not the same beautiful mixture of joy and sadness I felt after BF. A lot of people may see this as me and others with the same opinion just holding on to our first feelings when beating the game, but I feel like the more I delved into the concept, thought about it and read other opinions I just hated it even more...
For real, too much beauty and intense history, with bad a good points, left me joy struggling in my throat. I need to play it again because of these hollows you mentioned and as a way to try to connect with it.
Plastic Shitlord Mar 2, 2021 @ 12:29am 
A lot of people here went into the game already expecting it to play out exactly the same as first one, and pretty much everything that was said in that other thread was boiling down to exactly that. Would anyone be really satisfied if it did, tho? How long would it be until someone would complain about the "same ♥♥♥♥, nothing new"? Because people already do it with the "Collect stuff and fight the angry owl" formula alone.
twitch.tv/beethom Mar 2, 2021 @ 11:42am 
Originally posted by Plastic_SR:
A lot of people here went into the game already expecting it to play out exactly the same as first one, and pretty much everything that was said in that other thread was boiling down to exactly that. Would anyone be really satisfied if it did, tho? How long would it be until someone would complain about the "same ♥♥♥♥, nothing new"? Because people already do it with the "Collect stuff and fight the angry owl" formula alone.
Definitly they took the first formula then spiced it with new abilities and hollow knight's system to improve the gameplay and spiced it with new characters. We can't deny that. Nevertheless, i do love it. What i complain it's the way Ori finished. Without say goodbye to her friends and a shocking quick departure in the second game. What the Ori with that? Why didn't they wait for a third part to do something like this? It really hurts so much ;(
Zatmaggot Mar 2, 2021 @ 1:25pm 
Originally posted by Beetom:
Originally posted by Plastic_SR:
A lot of people here went into the game already expecting it to play out exactly the same as first one, and pretty much everything that was said in that other thread was boiling down to exactly that. Would anyone be really satisfied if it did, tho? How long would it be until someone would complain about the "same ♥♥♥♥, nothing new"? Because people already do it with the "Collect stuff and fight the angry owl" formula alone.
Definitly they took the first formula then spiced it with new abilities and hollow knight's system to improve the gameplay and spiced it with new characters. We can't deny that. Nevertheless, i do love it. What i complain it's the way Ori finished. Without say goodbye to her friends and a shocking quick departure in the second game. What the Ori with that? Why didn't they wait for a third part to do something like this? It really hurts so much ;(
Also, it's sort of depressing to think Ori is basically trapped within a loop, a circle. To be forever doomed to reincarnate over and over again. Everytime having to leave behind their home and family. I feel like Moon wanted a sad ending to make the players emotional more than a good storyline.
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