Wolfenstein: Youngblood

Wolfenstein: Youngblood

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TwinKy Aug 15, 2020 @ 9:56am
Why was this game poorly received?
I finished it recently at around 25 hours and it was fantastic. 100% gameplay focused. Sure, the characters were pretty uninspired, but who cares if the videoGAME is fun? I'd rather have dull characters and a non-existent story rather than have most games turn into garbage, gameplay-starved movies/walking simulators ( think: TW3*, PS4 exclusives...).

If good games continue to do poorly just because they have an uninteresting plot or cast, then don't whine when you start seeing more studios going the Uncharted/The Last of Us route, i.e shiney exterior but no substance.


* Yes, The Witcher 3. The GAME part of it is absolutely atrocious. It doesn't matter if the presentation, voice acting and everything else is top notch. If the gameplay sucks, the whole thing sucks. I'm aware that it's a different genre than YB, but it's still a videogame.


Another game that was unfairly criticized was Farcry New dawn. It was considerably better than 5 gameplay-wise.
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Knight1267 Aug 15, 2020 @ 7:43pm 
the first wolfenstein game was very well recevied it was the politics injected in the later entries that soured the waters a bit .but trust me the vultures will come and make every excuse under the sun to say otherwise.
Anticitizen 1 Aug 15, 2020 @ 11:27pm 
Okay, first of all, I like the gameplay in this game, enough to go for 100% completion. Having said that, the story and characters are absolutely garbage tier in this game, they are not merely "uninspired" and uninteresting, they are ♥♥♥♥, plain and simple. I would actually prefer if all future Machine Game titles came with "Skip all cutscenes" in the options, the current quality of story and character development in their games is so hilariously bad that I actually feel embarrassed for them.

Secondly, if games are going for a "gameplay first" priority which I can fully get behind because gameplay is always more important than story, then they shouldn't have such a big focus on story. Both The New Colossus and this game have tried to so painfully hard at "story and characters" but both failed hilariously and in case of TNC it actually came at expense of gameplay.

Last but not least, Witcher 3 gameplay was pretty decent, yeah it wasn't amazing but it was more than adequate. I don't play games for their story but I have 150+ hours in Witcher 3.
Blitzwing Aug 16, 2020 @ 6:57am 
Well I did play it myself for 18 hours and the first 10 hours was very surprised why it got bad ratings.

You go around the city and shoot stuff, problem is the longer you play, the clearer are the flaws.

-first of they did too much recycle missions, where you enter same territory to do another quest
-the brother towers recycle missions, are really awful, as you can't properly reach them
on streets its simple go there, in those towers is no clear direction

-the NPC that does follow you is really awful, you try to play stealthy, she does set alarms off

-the leveling system is quite bad, as enemies do level up along

-the weapon system has some flaws, in other games pick up gun and kill, here you have to switch for the right ammo type and enemies are bullet sponges

-story makes very little sense, and character writing does pull out the worst Mary sues you ever seen

-no map, ok you have a minimap, but why didnt they add proper map to see everything?

game is quite small,
1 zeppelin level
4 small streets levels
4 towers

-its really a bad move to make game small, but even worse to force play again recycled levels.
-you have to, as it does give perk points

-I really wish you could reassign perks.

-game does loose stuff you purchase lol, I did pay for armor perk/hand sign 4000 coins and it did simply some days later disappear lol


the list of flaws is quite large
TwinKy Aug 16, 2020 @ 11:13am 
Originally posted by Anticitizen 1:

Last but not least, Witcher 3 gameplay was pretty decent, yeah it wasn't amazing but it was more than adequate. I don't play games for their story but I have 150+ hours in Witcher 3.


I absolutely could not stomach TW3 at all. The gameplay was so poor I literally could not play. At all. Skyrim, on the other hand, had considerably better gameplay, even if it itself had pretty barebones combat. Inventory management and exploration - among other things - were definitely fun, which was why I played that game for around 200 hours. I gave TW3 another chance on PC less than a month ago ( tried it first on a crappy PS4 ) to see if my initial judgement had been misguided. Turns out it wasn't.


What do you like about TW3's gameplay, exactly?







Originally posted by Blitzwing:
Well I did play it myself for 18 hours and the first 10 hours was very surprised why it got bad ratings.

You go around the city and shoot stuff, problem is the longer you play, the clearer are the flaws.



the list of flaws is quite large



I agree with pretty much all of your points, especially map design and size and the dumb ammo type. The map design was definitely pretty average, but not poor. I also agree on the lazy recycling of assets/repetitive environments.

My point is that the game was not anywhere as bad as it was made out to be. Not even close.
Blitzwing Aug 16, 2020 @ 11:19am 
I think what mostly killed the game was the very first impression

just look how ugly they did make the girls

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1819812914
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Blitzwing Aug 16, 2020 @ 11:35am 
Originally posted by TwinKy:
My point is that the game was not anywhere as bad as it was made out to be. Not even close.

We have there to look into peoples expectations.


The character design is by Youngblood clearly inferior.
We got just 1.5 new character,
while in older games they were quite unique and meme/memorable
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xn9N7ZMmFrE

Wolfenstein: Youngblood is there very bland, rinse, repeat and repetitive.


I understand they did not have much game, but their methods to stretch it was its downfall.

-why were the side missions not already activated as you visit the location, return to same location for 4 times in a row just to press a button or destroy 1 object isn't good

-why is in this singleplayer game so much grind?

Anticitizen 1 Aug 16, 2020 @ 4:18pm 
Originally posted by TwinKy:

What do you like about TW3's gameplay, exactly?

I liked the melee combat and interaction with the powers, fighting monsters was pretty cool too. I do agree that Skyrim combat was better though.
FALLENV3GAS Aug 17, 2020 @ 5:21am 
Originally posted by Knight1267:
the first wolfenstein game was very well recevied it was the politics injected in the later entries that soured the waters a bit .but trust me the vultures will come and make every excuse under the sun to say otherwise.
Yet the whole premise of Wolfenstein is about killing Nazis, you know - a Political group...
Anticitizen 1 Aug 17, 2020 @ 6:44am 
Originally posted by FALLENV3GAS:
Originally posted by Knight1267:
the first wolfenstein game was very well recevied it was the politics injected in the later entries that soured the waters a bit .but trust me the vultures will come and make every excuse under the sun to say otherwise.
Yet the whole premise of Wolfenstein is about killing Nazis, you know - a Political group...

Wolf games have never shoved politics in your face before The New Colossus and surprise, surprise, that was a ♥♥♥♥ Wolf game. Shooting Nazis is not a political statement, if anything they are like zombies, a guilt-free kill, it doesn't have to be political. Wolf 3D wasn't political, RTCW wasn't political, even the first two titles from this dev weren't political. When developers start pushing politics into games, the quality suffers every time.
FALLENV3GAS Aug 17, 2020 @ 8:17am 
Originally posted by Anticitizen 1:
Originally posted by FALLENV3GAS:
Yet the whole premise of Wolfenstein is about killing Nazis, you know - a Political group...

Wolf games have never shoved politics in your face before The New Colossus and surprise, surprise, that was a ♥♥♥♥ Wolf game. Shooting Nazis is not a political statement, if anything they are like zombies, a guilt-free kill, it doesn't have to be political. Wolf 3D wasn't political, RTCW wasn't political, even the first two titles from this dev weren't political. When developers start pushing politics into games, the quality suffers every time.
r/woosh you're fighting a "political party"? Regardless if it's Nazis' or any other political group, that would make it political by definition...

...so how exactly did it shove politics in your face? I don't exactly having to vote for a president in that game? You do know most games do have a message, meaning or tone that is drenched in multiple themes some of which are political right?
Anticitizen 1 Aug 17, 2020 @ 8:33am 
Originally posted by FALLENV3GAS:

...so how exactly did it shove politics in your face? I don't exactly having to vote for a president in that game? You do know most games do have a message, meaning or tone that is drenched in multiple themes some of which are political right?

Nazis in games are not a political party, they are a guilt free punching bag.

All the trash that came out of Grace's and her simp husband's mouth was ♥♥♥♥ tier demagoguery. It was pathetic but the devs thought it was so good, there are hours worth of garbage tier cut-scenes in that game and unsurprisingly, significantly less actual gameplay than in The New Order which was actually a good game.

Most games don't have a message and they don't need one, they are games. Most don't even need a decent story and that's not a problem if the gameplay is decent.
FALLENV3GAS Aug 17, 2020 @ 8:49am 
Originally posted by Anticitizen 1:
Originally posted by FALLENV3GAS:

...so how exactly did it shove politics in your face? I don't exactly having to vote for a president in that game? You do know most games do have a message, meaning or tone that is drenched in multiple themes some of which are political right?

Nazis in games are not a political party, they are a guilt free punching bag.

All the trash that came out of Grace's and her simp husband's mouth was ♥♥♥♥ tier demagoguery. It was pathetic but the devs thought it was so good, there are hours worth of garbage tier cut-scenes in that game and unsurprisingly, significantly less actual gameplay than in The New Order which was actually a good game.

Most games don't have a message and they don't need one, they are games. Most don't even need a decent story and that's not a problem if the gameplay is decent.
That's your opinion of them but guess what, it doesn't change the fact they are; let's say it together children - a "POLITICAL PARTY!"

Uses the word "simp" which has lost it's irony at this point like the word "cuck" has, yet deems this to be political...

Like what? If anything, TNO was just as "political" as TNC.

Skip to 1:25

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3KQLifOQC_g

Most games do have a message no matter how subtle they are, designers have a message they want to get across even in the most braindead of games - so you're naive to think that media or games for that matter are made objectively. They aren't.
FALLENV3GAS Aug 17, 2020 @ 9:09am 
Originally posted by Anticitizen 1:
Originally posted by FALLENV3GAS:
That's your opinion of them but guess what, it doesn't change the fact they are; let's say it together children - a "POLITICAL PARTY!"

Uses the word "simp" which has lost it's irony at this point like the word "cuck" has, yet deems this to be political...

Like what? If anything, TNO was just as "political" as TNC.

Skip to 1:25

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3KQLifOQC_g

Most games do have a message no matter how subtle they are, designers have a message they want to get across even in the most braindead of games - so you're naive to think that media or games for that matter are made objectively. They aren't.

It doesn't matter what the real world meaning of Nazis and Nazism is, games are escapism and don't need politics, especially when it's handled as clumsily as it was in TNC, that was embarrassingly bad.

In a world with Twitch thots, onlyfans and the poison of fourth wave feminism, the term "simp" has never been more relevant.

Go on Steam new releases and tell me with a straight face that most games there have a message, I'll wait, probably forever.
If games are "escapism" than by your logic, politics in games shouldn't matter either...

Hardly, it's just another overused word that already lost it's meaning and people not knowing the content of it.

So how come you skipped pass the point that TNO was "pOliTicAL" as well?

Sure, I had a look at new releases...

Horizon Zero Dawn has a message of the worrying state of the advance in technology, generally the adavances into AI and the potential risks it could have on humanity.
Blitzwing Aug 17, 2020 @ 10:18am 
Well the game was heavily criticized that Terror Billy/B.J. Blazkowicz was not playable character
Anticitizen 1 Aug 17, 2020 @ 4:42pm 
Originally posted by FALLENV3GAS:
If games are "escapism" than by your logic, politics in games shouldn't matter either...

Wrong, politics is something that is rammed down our throats by demagogues every day and escapism should be a way of getting away from it.

Simp is a word that isn't going away anytime soon because today's society encourages creation of more weak, submissive males that are ready to do anything to get some attention from the opposite sex.

A few cut-scenes doesn't make TNO overly political, on the other hand TNC undoubtedly was and to the detriment of its gameplay.

So you picked one new release that maybe has a political message, how about DDraceNetwork, Factorio, Kill it with Fire, etc? No? Didn't think so.
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