PS2 Population

[Jigsawsniper]

Do Steam players not count as the whole pop and there is another platform or standalone launcher?

[Gilver Redgrave]

The game is multi platform.

However Steam has the highest player count. So if Steam has 3500 players all other platforms will be below that.

[Jigsawsniper]

I have not played since PSO2 and wondered if the playerbase was worth playing the game or if it will end up offline =/

[Fellawith]

DrSnobbles の投稿を引用：

I have not played since PSO2 and wondered if the playerbase was worth playing the game or if it will end up offline =/

Wish I could tell you but, the source code got leaked like 6 months ago soooo ya NGS and base PSO2 will be around no matter what.

[Gilver Redgrave]

DrSnobbles の投稿を引用：

I have not played since PSO2 and wondered if the playerbase was worth playing the game or if it will end up offline =/

That depends on what you see as a "worthy playerbase" amount.

The playerbase wont get bigger anymore even tho people wish that. The playerbase is currently stable and has its hardcore fanbase. However with games Like Blue Protocol and Dragons Sword (Dragons Nest Remake) releasing this year its also very likely that the playerbase could decrease further.

So as you can see there are alot of "what ifs" regarding the playerbase.

Another thing you need to know is that the player count is not NGS only. Those 3500 players (on Steam) count both base and NGS together. So the number is very misleading because its shared across two games.

[Hermit]

DrSnobbles の投稿を引用：

Do Steam players not count as the whole pop and there is another platform or standalone launcher?

The numbers you see on Steam are for both PSO2 and NGS. So on average, it's 2500 players shared over 2 games.

Shirokami の投稿を引用：

DrSnobbles の投稿を引用：

Do Steam players not count as the whole pop and there is another platform or standalone launcher?

Two other stand alone launchers that don't get counted on steam, xbox and playstation also not counted on steam. Idk if Tweaker is counted on steam.

Tweaker isn't it's own platform, it's just a launcher to bypass the official launcher. When you set it up, you must choose to connect your game to either Steam, Epic or the Microsoft Store, and whichever one you pick, it will launch that version of the game and you will count towards the numbers playing on that platfom.

[Gilver Redgrave]

Shirokami の投稿を引用：

Idk if you heard but Amazon Games has been deploying STEAM bans to inactive Lost Ark players, such bans aren't a Lost Ark ban, but a ban on everything in Steam which blocks banned people.

Idk if you heard but Steam can lift those bans when Developers abuse it. So just writte Steam and problem solved. I mean it even is stated in the ToS.

[Gilver Redgrave]

Shirokami の投稿を引用：

Yeah I did still no response.

I didnt even get a ban from Amazon. And i am plenty inactive.

[VanillaLucia]

DrSnobbles の投稿を引用：

I have not played since PSO2 and wondered if the playerbase was worth playing the game or if it will end up offline =/

According to recent and public Sega reports, New Genesis is doing financially well as one of their top-performing games and they did cite that Global was a large reason for that. As long as people are spending money you won't have to worry about the game going away - at least not yet (we will have to see what their "Super Game" unfolds and becomes).

The playerbase is split across numerous ships (four in Global, ten in Japan) and the game isn't very popular to mainstream audiences but has a dedicated niche. If you are willing to socialize with others and make the most of what you can depending on where you are the game does have something to offer at least for a period of time.

But to your first post, Hiro Arai did mention when New Genesis launched that the overwhelming majority of players on Phantasy Star Online 2 (and New Genesis when it was new) reside on the Steam side of things. Things may have changed now as there hasn't been any new insights on that (and information is very scarce in general regarding New Genesis as so much of it is behind closed-doors or other presentations elsewhere that Global is left out of). I would imagine, at least that I have seen, the only other major population to have put a dent into this (and who really is carrying the game alongside the Steam players) is the PlayStation population as well due to the fact that the PlayStation version already has been done for years and years (due to the Japanese version back in about 2016-2017 for Episode 4's launch). Global finally getting the PlayStation version has been a significantly bigger boost of players and activity compared to the Xbox One version's original launch despite the outer narrative with Sony's attitude towards Japanese games (especially for what Phantasy Star Online 2 and New Genesis capitalize on).

[Gilver Redgrave]

VanillaLucia の投稿を引用：

According to recent and public Sega reports, New Genesis is doing financially well as one of their top-performing games

What other "top performing" games does Sega have tho ? I dont know of any current (or truth be told any game besides PSO2) thats a huge success. Not hard for NGS being the top dog when its the only dog.

[VanillaLucia]

Gilver Redgrave の投稿を引用：

What other "top performing" games does Sega have tho ? I dont know of any current (or truth be told any game besides PSO2) thats a huge success. Not hard for NGS being the top dog when its the only dog.

Sega Sammy Website[www.segasammy.co.jp] (Corporate News is where you want to look)

But from the report for the Q2 Fiscal Year that ends in March 2023:

• #1: Project SEKAI COLORFUL STAGE! feat. Hatsune Miku
  
• #2: PHANTASY STAR ONLINE 2 NEW GENESIS
  
• #3: SEGA NET MAHJONG MJ

Unfortunately, not much more was said in regards to New Genesis beyond the goal being to strengthen domestic and overseas operations of their mainstay free-to-play titles.

[Tazz]

If u play Base PSO2 just don't go to ship 3&4 it a death ship
If u start from beginning ship1&2 is a good choice the community over their is active
But if u want stand alone dont want other to disturb u ship3&4 is your choice it is death ship anyway and lobby was empty and u alone will at that lobby
if u want buzy schedule run UQ run trigger run daily with everybody else ship 1&2 is your choice

[Mitsu]

why are people worrying about playerbase of a game? Yea, it show you how many people are playing, but why does it matter for you to enjoy the game? If you are not enjoying the game, you should probably move on to another game, and should also stop killing yourself worrying how many people are playing the game.

[Mistfox]

Mitsu の投稿を引用：

why are people worrying about playerbase of a game? Yea, it show you how many people are playing, but why does it matter for you to enjoy the game? If you are not enjoying the game, you should probably move on to another game, and should also stop killing yourself worrying how many people are playing the game.

It's because some of the content is party orientated and you need a party to run it or take an excessive amount of time soloing the game. The more people in the game/ship, the easier you can find a party to help you. I once tried to solo the Bewitching Woods and gave up after 2 enemy clusters, it took 10 min just to clear them. Wasn't in danger of dying, just that the HP of the enemy was so ridiculously high that it took a long time to chip them to death. You need a party to help you clear them in a reasonable amount of time. That is why numbers matter.

[Mitsu]

It's because some of the content is party orientated and you need a party to run it or take an excessive amount of time soloing the game. The more people in the game/ship, the easier you can find a party to help you. I once tried to solo the Bewitching Woods and gave up after 2 enemy clusters, it took 10 min just to clear them. Wasn't in danger of dying, just that the HP of the enemy was so ridiculously high that it took a long time to chip them to death. You need a party to help you clear them in a reasonable amount of time. That is why numbers matter.

Understandable, I guess you're right.

[Hermit]

Mistfox の投稿を引用：

It's because some of the content is party orientated and you need a party to run it or take an excessive amount of time soloing the game. The more people in the game/ship, the easier you can find a party to help you. I once tried to solo the Bewitching Woods and gave up after 2 enemy clusters, it took 10 min just to clear them. Wasn't in danger of dying, just that the HP of the enemy was so ridiculously high that it took a long time to chip them to death. You need a party to help you clear them in a reasonable amount of time. That is why numbers matter.

This.

There are other reasons too. High numbers = a game that is certain to last years and the company (usually) will back it up with content. New players are far more likely to jump into a game with a sizeable amount of players too. They won't waste their time starting a new game if the game has little going for it. Low numbers = a game that where it's longevity will always be questioned and content will likely be pushed out slow and small in size (I feel like this is where we are with NGS)

Also, when I am playing an online game, I want to be playing with a lot of people, it's supposed to be an online game after all. If I wanted a single player experience, I would just play a single player game. I love seeing tons of players wherever I go, but at times with NGS, it's barren. This is another reason why I prefer the hub world and dungeons of previous PSO games. The smaller size meant I was always running into players.