Phantasy Star Online 2 New Genesis

Phantasy Star Online 2 New Genesis

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Magnadeus Jan 12, 2023 @ 3:08pm
Why is making money in this game so difficult?
I'm legit about to take a long ass break or quit entirely because making money in this game is the real challenge. i can understand some things being locked behind a paywall, but why the personal shop??? Why is this game's auction house system locked behind a paywall to sell ♥♥♥♥ to other players? That's just bad game design, even for a FTP game. I read that farming money via PSE burst is an option too, but you expect me to farm 80 meseta per kill for hours and hours?
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VanillaLucia Jan 12, 2023 @ 3:53pm 
Unfortunately, spending time making 200,000 N-Meseta an hour via PSE Bursts or getting extremely lucky with the weapon/gear lottery (getting the newest and best versions of weapons/units to sell in the Personal Shop) or outright participating in the AC Scratches that will likely be printing money (especially with certain accessories and outfits) is among the few ways you can try to make money.

On the Japanese version, however, the player community is far more generous and less greedy overall so the things you are likely looking for with N-Meseta especially in regards to fashion is about less-than-half of what Global's prices are. There are a number of variables to it (a much larger playerbase, a more gacha-friendly community, a less greedy playerbase, and a bigger sense of community even in the Personal Shops) but Global's Personal Shops are in the state they are because Sega has been very hands-off about how Global handles things and thus what you see is what players settled on.
Tazz Jan 12, 2023 @ 3:56pm 
so u free to play huh...it wasn,t easy to get mesata without owning a shop u must be premium user that how u can survive in this cruel PSO2 game .........here some tip:-

first= get a premium 1500AC

second at NGS=play scratch ticket and sell them at your shop

third at Base PSO2=just joint any party do trigger quest the better one is CRADLE OF DARKNESS u get so many mesata and 13 star weapon and unit

what players always buy at shop:-

NGS=scratch ticket item ,unit+50 and weapon+50

Base PSO2= high unit for starter and 13* unit also high weapon for starter and 6 augment 13* weapon....at base PSO2 scratch item not that hot to sell so don,t buy AC scratch here and at here u can direct sell item to other players just click at them and do transaction

so there u have it how to survive in this cruel PSO2 world.
Last edited by Tazz; Jan 12, 2023 @ 3:57pm
Gilver Redgrave Jan 12, 2023 @ 5:17pm 
Like VanillaLucia said 200k per hour (in Retem Alnothe) is the only solid way of getting Meseta.

The Shop passes are one if not the reason why some people consider NGS P2W. But hey you get 1 Shop pass per month as long as you get the Pass level done and then you have 3 days and get your stuff sold.
So no its not "Paywalled" you still get passes for free. Then again. Considering what some people here believe "paywall" means you might aswell call it that.
Mistfox Jan 12, 2023 @ 6:30pm 
If you did the mission passes, you will get 1 shop pass per "season" for 3 days. It's not the best but it does give you access intermittently. The mission seasons change kind of slow though.
Another source of income is alliance missions. At the end of every alliance "season", you get beta reactors depending on how many alliance quests your alliance completed. Once again, the seasons for that change kind of slowly too.
To be really honest, shop access isn't going to make you rich either, the stuff dropped for sale are all price depressed that you're more likely to get just 1k per item for weapons and armour, so if you think that shop access is going to grant you millions of meseta, think again, the only things that are going to make you "big meseta" are the fashion items that are on sale from AC scratches and that involves you pumping in real money, which if you were doing so, would mean you would have already bought shop access.

Ok, some temporary help, go to the store and you'll find that there is a "starter" premium package on sale for SG. It's something they tossed in to lure you into the convenience of premium before yanking the rug from under you but that doesn't mean you can't make use of it in the meantime. Buy that and you got I think about a month of shop access.
Shurpy Jan 12, 2023 @ 8:37pm 
I've never played a game that locks the auction house behind a paywall it's essential to spend at least 7USD a month if you want to make money worth your time in this game
Rogue Jan 12, 2023 @ 8:45pm 
isn't there 1 million n-meseta up for grabs by exchanging for beta reactors with hexaite? With randomite making yet another reappearance, your mineral dreams is once again back to full power...

Other than making few hundred K per hour in Retem Alnothe, you can use a guide and look for meseta related materials to sell like alpha-reactors, etc.

Make your monthly sub of 0 real US dollars worth your while. I know I know, hype up that "80" n-meseta per kill whine loud and wide. Life of the economically challenged after all. Virtual/fake currency is more real than real money, heh.
Last edited by Rogue; Jan 12, 2023 @ 8:46pm
X2dZ Jan 12, 2023 @ 8:55pm 
Originally posted by Shurpy:
I've never played a game that locks the auction house behind a paywall it's essential to spend at least 7USD a month if you want to make money worth your time in this game

FFXIV?
Free Trial Players cannot access the in-game market board during the Free Trial.
https://support.na.square-enix.com/rule.php?id=5382&la=1&tag=freetrial
X2dZ Jan 12, 2023 @ 8:56pm 
Originally posted by Rogue:
isn't there 1 million n-meseta up for grabs by exchanging for beta reactors with hexaite? With randomite making yet another reappearance, your mineral dreams is once again back to full power...

Other than making few hundred K per hour in Retem Alnothe, you can use a guide and look for meseta related materials to sell like alpha-reactors, etc.

Make your monthly sub of 0 real US dollars worth your while. I know I know, hype up that "80" n-meseta per kill whine loud and wide. Life of the economically challenged after all. Virtual/fake currency is more real than real money, heh.
Why do people keep shoving FFXIV free trial until lv60 but forget to list the free trial limitations? Market included.
Last edited by X2dZ; Jan 12, 2023 @ 8:56pm
Shurpy Jan 12, 2023 @ 8:57pm 
Originally posted by X2dZ:
Originally posted by Shurpy:
I've never played a game that locks the auction house behind a paywall it's essential to spend at least 7USD a month if you want to make money worth your time in this game

FFXIV?
Free Trial Players cannot access the in-game market board during the Free Trial.
https://support.na.square-enix.com/rule.php?id=5382&la=1&tag=freetrial
FFXIV is a pay 2 play game the free trial is essentially a demo
Rogue Jan 12, 2023 @ 9:34pm 
Oh remember, the easier to earn money, higher the price to match the economy. In the end, it's equivalent to hours/effort played to earn that "money" with regards to player economy.

E.g Zimbabwe is full of trillionaries. But they need about 3.7 trillions to buy a loaf of bread... Printing money is easy but value of it is still dependent on actual work and effort.
ΧΙΣΤ Jan 12, 2023 @ 10:39pm 
Originally posted by Rogue:
isn't there 1 million n-meseta up for grabs by exchanging for beta reactors with hexaite?
where do i find this exhange? or was it a limited thing that i missed
edit: nvm just saw it in the event shop
Last edited by ΧΙΣΤ; Jan 12, 2023 @ 10:40pm
Mistfox Jan 13, 2023 @ 1:56am 
Originally posted by Shurpy:
I've never played a game that locks the auction house behind a paywall it's essential to spend at least 7USD a month if you want to make money worth your time in this game
I think Warcraft did that out of the demo too. In fact, I think it even locks your money to a 10 gold limit.
Gilver Redgrave Jan 13, 2023 @ 4:38am 
Originally posted by Amina:
Ikr, personal shop being 3 days a month is stupid. We should push sega down the stairs.

Sega high likely didnt get the memo that people dont like shop access being paywalled. I mean even TERA back then gave F2P players permanent shop slots. I mean i can understand locking the "full use" thats no big deal but locking it completely ? Always a bad idea. Sega should give people 3 slots for free.
Mistfox Jan 13, 2023 @ 5:41am 
Originally posted by Shirokami:
Originally posted by Amina:
Ikr, personal shop being 3 days a month is stupid. We should push sega down the stairs.
Yeah, I don't even think there should be one.
Yeah we can jump, why do we need stairs?
..... oh wait....
:steamlaughcry:
Gilver Redgrave Jan 13, 2023 @ 7:22am 
Originally posted by Shirokami:
That would be a minimun of $2000 in Tera and I'd lose the money after an update lol.

I dont know of any paywalled upgrades in Tera. In fact i did everything with ingame money. I mean okey i didnt play the last 5 years of its lifecircle but i cant imagine they added a paywalled upgrade system.

You can kindly prove me wrong tho because as i said i wasnt there at that time high likely.
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