Phantasy Star Online 2 New Genesis

Phantasy Star Online 2 New Genesis

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Grandgwah Jul 18, 2022 @ 12:10am
is the game using both of my RAM sticks?
i only see under 8GB RAM usage, i have 2 sticks of 8GB DDR4 3200mhz RAM. is it supposed to be capped at 8gb? im concerned its only using a single channel of RAM and it might be causing my stutters (also i have the game installed on HDD so i know thats probably causing stutters too but the game is also lagging sometimes when particles appear, which could be RAM related maybe? i have an RX 6600 so just a little bit of particles shouldnt be instantly chugging my pc right?)
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Grandgwah Jul 18, 2022 @ 12:15am 
also, it occasionally just heavily stutters for no reason, im not loading any new assets or entering a new area, im just fighting an enemy and there will be a heavy stutter or two.
Deadoon Jul 18, 2022 @ 12:24am 
Unless you are on an hedt(like an intel X series cpu, xeon, threadripper or similar) board with multiple numa nodes for your cpu, your ram is all in one contiguous arrangement. Channels don't really matter for access purposes, even if you messed them up and put your ram in a single channel arrangement, at most it will be slower, not have a limit in how much is accessible.

Game doesn't actually use much ram normally.
pseudo Jul 18, 2022 @ 12:30am 
Originally posted by SacredEyes:
also, it occasionally just heavily stutters for no reason, im not loading any new assets or entering a new area, im just fighting an enemy and there will be a heavy stutter or two.
I get that too. Game feels like spaghetti tbh. Even if your GPU and CPU can handle it, certain settings will generate hardcoded lag. That's my theory and I'm sticking to it.
Vic Viper Jul 18, 2022 @ 12:39am 
I'd say make sure the RAM is properly seated and setup in dual-channel (you will see performance issues in most modern games if it's not anyways, so it's most likely not that).

EDIT: And Deadoon above says it doesn't really matter anyways, but I would still put sticks in dual-channel if given some spare time.

If it already is, it's most likely the HDD. My friend plays from one, and he's having constant loading and sometimes performance issues because of it. In the new limited quest if he starts it fresh, it takes him about 20-30 seconds to load each area, by that time, all the enemies are close to dead at Rank 1.

A bad connection can provoke stutters/FPS loss as well according to him too while playing Wifi on an aging internet box. When he switches to a slightly better connection, those issues are somewhat mitigated.

GPU seems fine (for 1080p at max I'd say, btw use FSR, it's built-in), though there have been people who've had issues with 3000 series Nvidia cards while 1000 series users were doing just fine. I can't say neither for you nor them as far as how to solve it, but yours should be able to do something close to 1080p/60FPS with FSR at Ultra Quality (unrestricting the FPS I'd say is a bad idea, but that's just my opinion).

If you have a 6600, I doubt whatever CPU you've got paired with should be unable to run the game well, though it doesn't hurt to check.

Ah, and on the game's launcher settings, set in Full Screen rather than Virtual Full Screen. In fact, maybe try that first to see if it's better like that, from my experience in VFS, it drew about as much power from the GPU during idle and tense moments alike, while simple FS draws just about what you need.
Last edited by Vic Viper; Jul 18, 2022 @ 12:47am
Grandgwah Jul 18, 2022 @ 1:24am 
Originally posted by Vic Viper:
I'd say make sure the RAM is properly seated and setup in dual-channel (you will see performance issues in most modern games if it's not anyways, so it's most likely not that).

EDIT: And Deadoon above says it doesn't really matter anyways, but I would still put sticks in dual-channel if given some spare time.

If it already is, it's most likely the HDD. My friend plays from one, and he's having constant loading and sometimes performance issues because of it. In the new limited quest if he starts it fresh, it takes him about 20-30 seconds to load each area, by that time, all the enemies are close to dead at Rank 1.

A bad connection can provoke stutters/FPS loss as well according to him too while playing Wifi on an aging internet box. When he switches to a slightly better connection, those issues are somewhat mitigated.

ahh it could be my internet maybe. ive got it on ethernet but its a wireless network from T-Mobile (and its ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ terrible and throttles to sub-kilobyte speeds or turns itself off several times per day). also i bought the cheapo LGA 1700 motherboard so its only 2 RAM DIMMs so its dual channel regardless, and i made sure they were fully seated. its just weird that is specifically exactly will not use more than 8.00gb of my RAM.
Grandgwah Jul 18, 2022 @ 1:27am 
Originally posted by Vic Viper:
GPU seems fine (for 1080p at max I'd say, btw use FSR, it's built-in), though there have been people who've had issues with 3000 series Nvidia cards while 1000 series users were doing just fine. I can't say neither for you nor them as far as how to solve it, but yours should be able to do something close to 1080p/60FPS with FSR at Ultra Quality (unrestricting the FPS I'd say is a bad idea, but that's just my opinion).

If you have a 6600, I doubt whatever CPU you've got paired with should be unable to run the game well, though it doesn't hurt to check.

Ah, and on the game's launcher settings, set in Full Screen rather than Virtual Full Screen. In fact, maybe try that first to see if it's better like that, from my experience in VFS, it drew about as much power from the GPU during idle and tense moments alike, while simple FS draws just about what you need.

i thought DLSS and FSR were just for upscaling from 1080 to higher res, or upscaling 720 to 1080, does it have other uses? id like to keep my high texture resolutions, after gaming on craptops and ibuypower gt 710 toasters for 8 years

and i did make sure to switch from virtual fullscreen to fullscreen, cus idek what virtual fs means, so i automatically turned it off
Last edited by Grandgwah; Jul 18, 2022 @ 1:27am
Vic Viper Jul 18, 2022 @ 2:20am 
Originally posted by SacredEyes:
i thought DLSS and FSR were just for upscaling from 1080 to higher res, or upscaling 720 to 1080, does it have other uses? id like to keep my high texture resolutions, after gaming on craptops and ibuypower gt 710 toasters for 8 years

and i did make sure to switch from virtual fullscreen to fullscreen, cus idek what virtual fs means, so i automatically turned it off

FSR and DLSS make the game simultaneously run at a lower internal resolution to lower GPU strain (like a resolution scale setting) and reconstruct the image to make it look as close as the original as the setting allows it to be.

At the highest quality you'd have to squint real hard to find any visual negatives for FSR (I don't know if DLSS was fixed, I heard bad things when it became available on PSO2), and the performance gain is really there; I'm on a 1070 Ti, and the difference between Ultra Quality FSR and non-FSR is about 10-20% of GPU usage at 1440p.

It's not a setting that requires a reset, so you can switch back and forth in any environment just to check how it works.

ahh it could be my internet maybe. ive got it on ethernet but its a wireless network from T-Mobile (and its ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ terrible and throttles to sub-kilobyte speeds or turns itself off several times per day). also i bought the cheapo LGA 1700 motherboard so its only 2 RAM DIMMs so its dual channel regardless, and i made sure they were fully seated. its just weird that is specifically exactly will not use more than 8.00gb of my RAM.

Well unfortunately I can't say there's anything else to do with your current internet situation except replace it outright or try in WiFi directly to your internet box (if your PC has a WiFi adapter and the box is speedy and ain't too far. Personally I had been using WiFi Powerline Carrier in ethernet, and when the darned things became slower and slower, I installed a WiFi PCI Adapter instead and connected directly to the box, my internet speed shot up 6x).

As for the RAM... I'd say it shouldn't even use 8 GB at all. At max settings right now at 1440p/60 FPS I'm in Kvaris Camp surrounded by 67 people; NGS is using 3.5 GB on its own and I have 32 GB total (so it compresses less than with 16 GB). It's actually worrying it'd take anywhere close to 6 GB on your end, let alone 8 GB.

Or... is the Task Manager showing you can't go above 8 GB at all with anything?
Last edited by Vic Viper; Jul 18, 2022 @ 2:25am
Grandgwah Jul 18, 2022 @ 11:04am 
Originally posted by Vic Viper:

As for the RAM... I'd say it shouldn't even use 8 GB at all. At max settings right now at 1440p/60 FPS I'm in Kvaris Camp surrounded by 67 people; NGS is using 3.5 GB on its own and I have 32 GB total (so it compresses less than with 16 GB). It's actually worrying it'd take anywhere close to 6 GB on your end, let alone 8 GB.

Or... is the Task Manager showing you can't go above 8 GB at all with anything?

do you have Smart Access Memory? maybe that makes it use less RAM, but uses that lesser amount much faster
Last edited by Grandgwah; Jul 18, 2022 @ 11:04am
Ai Jul 27, 2022 @ 8:03pm 
my setup is slower and older then yours but it never stutters i think bcz ive it on the nvme m.2 if it helps turn off some stuff at options
Ralf Jul 28, 2022 @ 5:31am 
Originally posted by SacredEyes:
its just weird that is specifically exactly will not use more than 8.00gb of my RAM.
Does the task manager say the 8gb ram is hardware reserved?
Vic Viper Jul 28, 2022 @ 6:03am 
Originally posted by SacredEyes:
Originally posted by Vic Viper:

As for the RAM... I'd say it shouldn't even use 8 GB at all. At max settings right now at 1440p/60 FPS I'm in Kvaris Camp surrounded by 67 people; NGS is using 3.5 GB on its own and I have 32 GB total (so it compresses less than with 16 GB). It's actually worrying it'd take anywhere close to 6 GB on your end, let alone 8 GB.

Or... is the Task Manager showing you can't go above 8 GB at all with anything?

do you have Smart Access Memory? maybe that makes it use less RAM, but uses that lesser amount much faster
Sorry, I just saw the message right now.

I didn't even know that was a thing before you mentioned it, and likely the answer is "no" if it's not activated by default on the BIOS.
Grandgwah Jul 28, 2022 @ 9:58am 
Originally posted by Database:
my setup is slower and older then yours but it never stutters i think bcz ive it on the nvme m.2 if it helps turn off some stuff at options
i might move it to my samsung nvme then... my hard drive is brand new but i guess this game just really hates them
Grandgwah Jul 28, 2022 @ 10:02am 
Originally posted by Ralf:
Originally posted by SacredEyes:
its just weird that is specifically exactly will not use more than 8.00gb of my RAM.
Does the task manager say the 8gb ram is hardware reserved?
it does on my old ♥♥♥♥♥♥ computer, i dont know why, but im guessing the reason is the memory is so slow it wont allow anything to use more than 8gb because it could cause vital system functions to run out of the slow ass 1200mhz DDR3 memory (and its a prebuilt so it wont let me enable XMP cus the bios is locked)

but on my new pc task manager shows all 16gb as available and ive got like 10gb allocated to my 300+ mod minecraft modpacks
Last edited by Grandgwah; Jul 28, 2022 @ 10:03am
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