CAN'T RUN GAME ANYMORE DUE TO NEW UPDATE. ABSURD.

[ShockR4ver]

Hello, this is really crazy i always used Windows7 for easy and fast computer managment, played pso2 for YEARS, now with this new 50GB Update, People that have Windows7 can't run it. https://gyazo.com/34ee4295e44df4b871e881752c54077a

And this computer have 12Gb ram GTX720 and 500GB of HDD

I Can move in another computer, but is not RIGHT for ALL the other people that doesn't BUY a new gpus or update windows due to gpus problem (Windows8/10 is x20 memory high than Win7, so lots of people still use Windows 7 For get more speed and all instead of using Windows8/10)

Lots of people LOSED their accounts, but to SEGA doesn't matter. Good job.

[Hex]

I don't know about Windows 7... but that may be where the problem is. Sorry bud but sucks to suck.

[ChrisFromNY]

Lol, sucks you can't play, but did you really think you'd be playing games forever with those specs?

[Daedalus007]

Nothing to do with Windows 7. It has to do with whether your CPU supports the 'AVX' instruction set. They forcefully updated both the original PSO2 as well as New Genesis PSO2.

I've linked to a utility to check if your system will be able to run the game by supporting AVX or not. If not, then if you still try to run the game it will complain about a missing file 'pso2bridge.dll' even if the file is right there in the directory. Using the official launcher will tell you that your system doesn't meet the requirements and to update your hardware.

The failure of Steam, SEGA, and/or Microsoft to detect and tell people that their system is NOT compatible due to missing AVX support is what bothers me the most.

I still believe that Windows 7 SP1 is the best OS for gaming. Vulkan will get enough updates to make it a viable replacement for DirectX nonsense once devs realize how powerful it can be; I have witnessed this firsthand in Path of Exile. The primary issue left with Win7 has been manufacturers that have dropped support for it by not releasing Win7 compatible drivers. Usually the Win8.1 ones work but sometimes they need to be tweaked a bit to do so.

From most reviews, it seems I'm not missing out on much. SEGA wants to force the requirement of AVX for their weeb-tastic game. Meanwhile WarFrame (arguably a much more high-fidelity and realistic game with a LOT more particle effects and physics) runs smooth as butter even on my system. I know what I'll be playing instead.

[ShockR4ver]

This is insane, for real ! By a big company like this.... Basically they want only pay to win/Proof Of Sure Pay users !

[Taran Tatsuuchi]

AVX is the majority.

Originally posted by Taran Tatsuuchi:

According to the steam hardware survey....
https://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/Steam-Hardware-Software-Survey-Welcome-to-Steam

Cpus with avx - 94.76%
Cpus with avx2 - 82.39%

The avx 512 variants are between 1.2~1.3%

[BlackTemplar]

Originally posted by ShockR4ver:

This is insane, for real ! By a big company like this.... Basically they want only pay to win/Proof Of Sure Pay users !

Not pay to win if your System is to old to run AVX. This isnt new tech. Its been around a while. If your system is a 2016 potato or older i see your issue.
Go to a pawn shop buy anything.... ANYTHING from 2019 or newer and you will be ok.
Hell this game runs on low on a Walmart 200 dollar special ive seen. "Never shop Walmart for electronics" "My friends a moron"
Digital Storm has the best gaming rigs for cheap. 1k American can get you a system that will run ANYTHING out there at best performance. As long as your connection is good also.

[Hex]

Nice bump.

[ShockR4ver]

Originally posted by BlackTemplar:

Originally posted by ShockR4ver:

This is insane, for real ! By a big company like this.... Basically they want only pay to win/Proof Of Sure Pay users !

Not pay to win if your System is to old to run AVX. This isnt new tech. Its been around a while. If your system is a 2016 potato or older i see your issue.
Go to a pawn shop buy anything.... ANYTHING from 2019 or newer and you will be ok.
Hell this game runs on low on a Walmart 200 dollar special ive seen. "Never shop Walmart for electronics" "My friends a moron"
Digital Storm has the best gaming rigs for cheap. 1k American can get you a system that will run ANYTHING out there at best performance. As long as your connection is good also.

I Know buddy, this is not my problem, i just have this problem on this first computer, but i have more others ( Having a mining farm too ) BUT for OTHER PEOPLE that can't afford to have a better gpu/cpu is not right. This game was running FINE on Win7 for years!, with a GTX 710, that's it. i know is new tech of course, but for me is not right for who can't afford this sadly... then they can't play anymore. Is really sad guys.

[Cube]

oh it runs on windows 7


but the new engine is garbage so it runs like trash on everything anyway so who cares and final fantasy 7 on base ps4 looks better than this game on ultra and it runs better.

it looks the same as pso 2 from 2012


the game was coded for pc by 12 year old interns at sega and the launcher was made by a drunk high school student because the text dont even line up in the boxes

[Princess Ariana]

game runs fine on my 2017 laptop

[Mercurial Obscurial]

This is pretty much the risk people take when gaming on PC. It sucks, but it's just how it is.

[Oni]

Trying to play new games on Windows 7 is like trying to use a payphone to text someone.

[Boreas]

Originally posted by ShockR4ver:

Hello, this is really crazy i always used Windows7 for easy and fast computer managment, played pso2 for YEARS, now with this new 50GB Update, People that have Windows7 can't run it. https://gyazo.com/34ee4295e44df4b871e881752c54077a

And this computer have 12Gb ram GTX720 and 500GB of HDD

I Can move in another computer, but is not RIGHT for ALL the other people that doesn't BUY a new gpus or update windows due to gpus problem (Windows8/10 is x20 memory high than Win7, so lots of people still use Windows 7 For get more speed and all instead of using Windows8/10)

Lots of people LOSED their accounts, but to SEGA doesn't matter. Good job.

Windows 7 support has long-ended by Microsoft, you should seriously consider updating to a supported operating system. Win 10 was a free upgrade for 7 users when it was launched using the media creator tool, anybody was able to access it. If you don't then don't blame anybody else when your computer is compromised by malware or has compatibility issues with new software and games. Microsoft won't help you and software/game studios don't make a habit of creating new software to run on an end-of-life OS.

Also, win 8 and 10 both do not have 20x the memory requirement as 7, minimum recommended RAM for win10 is the same as win7: 1GB for 32 bit, 2GB for 64 bit. THey also have the same hard disk space requirements.

Your HDD size is irrelevant to the game performance by the way, assuming you have enough space to contain it. I'd expect a GT 720 to really chug with New Genesis at least but PSO2 should be fine.

The only area you have a point in imo is that SEGA should've had New Genesis be a separate install for users who only play PSO2 so they wouldn't have to deal with the additional storage requirements or any other potential problems with a brand new game, since there's probably a lot of severely outdated rigs running the base as it's eight years old and could run on a toaster.

[Betsujin]

Can confirm, NGS works on Windows 7.

[X2dZ]

Originally posted by ShockR4ver:

Originally posted by BlackTemplar:

Not pay to win if your System is to old to run AVX. This isnt new tech. Its been around a while. If your system is a 2016 potato or older i see your issue.
Go to a pawn shop buy anything.... ANYTHING from 2019 or newer and you will be ok.
Hell this game runs on low on a Walmart 200 dollar special ive seen. "Never shop Walmart for electronics" "My friends a moron"
Digital Storm has the best gaming rigs for cheap. 1k American can get you a system that will run ANYTHING out there at best performance. As long as your connection is good also.

I Know buddy, this is not my problem, i just have this problem on this first computer, but i have more others ( Having a mining farm too ) BUT for OTHER PEOPLE that can't afford to have a better gpu/cpu is not right. This game was running FINE on Win7 for years!, with a GTX 710, that's it. i know is new tech of course, but for me is not right for who can't afford this sadly... then they can't play anymore. Is really sad guys.

They are not going to conform to all of those who can't keep up otherwise tech won't move on. Besides, they've had at most 8 years of enjoyment, if they were brave enough to run the japanese server.

This AVX thing was also announced way before NGS release.