Phantasy Star Online 2 New Genesis

Phantasy Star Online 2 New Genesis

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renkuroo Aug 23, 2020 @ 5:40am
PSO2 screwed up my wifi?
I've heard a lot about different Wifi related problems but haven't seen mine pop up, I've experienced the "double download" thing as well though, where the games installing just decided to reset completely and while doing that I could not use my wifi. But after the game had installed if i connect my phone to the same wifi my pc is unable to use it, it says that it's connected and everything but nothing loads? I have never had this problem before I installed the game. My wifi works perfectly on my laptop and other devices, but as soon as I connect my phone my pc refuses to work. I have no idea if it's something else and just timed perfectly with me installing the game.
Sorry that this is messy and unclear but I couldn't find anything online either
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Mistfox Aug 23, 2020 @ 5:50am 
Sounds like a power supply problem, the power to the wifi isn't enough to handle all the stuff connected to it.
renkuroo Aug 23, 2020 @ 6:01am 
Originally posted by Mistfox:
Sounds like a power supply problem, the power to the wifi isn't enough to handle all the stuff connected to it.
Hmm I see, I need to check more into that, Thank you :)
SalukaOfLand Aug 23, 2020 @ 6:20am 
If you're on 5G it could be a signal problem. Don't quote me though.
76561198993639191 May 17, 2023 @ 11:56pm 
Same to me that happen to my wifi when got automatically shut down in 2023 recently....I check the internet cable,shut down and restart it,do troubleshoot to internet,restart laptop pc.After all that,login pso2 ngs, in game ,then got error 630,internet shut down again. Doing same steps ,same thing happen again....I am done for this game I guess after 2700 hours gameplay on pso2 ngs(2 years above..)
Roland May 18, 2023 @ 5:55am 
LMMFAO
This might be the silliest thing I've read in a long time.
There is absolutely no way for PSO2 to "break your wifi".

Sounds like your modem and/or router are ♥♥♥♥ and/or dying.
When's the last time your ISP replaced your modem?
ISPs LOVE to reuse hardware and you almost certainly got a modem that was used by a previous customer and people don't realize they overheat so they stick em in small ass places or under things; this is why it's good practice to get them to swap out the modem every 2 years. And this is extra so for router+modem combos like most ISPs use.

Speaking of routers, if you're using your own you should update the firmware and then do a factory reset on settings, re-applying your own settings by hand after the reset. If it's the ISP router you may be more limited in what you can and cannot do and will have to talk to them about the issue.

TL;DR:
PSO2 can't break your wifi; ♥♥♥♥♥♥ hardware from your ISP can. Talk to your ISP.
renkuroo May 18, 2023 @ 9:56am 
Why has this thread woken up 3 years later monkaS I've fixed the issue
renkuroo May 18, 2023 @ 9:58am 
I got a new power supply 2 years ago and it fixed it for anyone coming back to this thread 3 later later:sunglassesDoge:
Roland May 18, 2023 @ 10:47am 
Originally posted by renkuroo:
Why has this thread woken up 3 years later monkaS I've fixed the issue
lol my b I should have looked at OP date, I was just responding cuz the other guy.

Originally posted by renkuroo:
I got a new power supply 2 years ago and it fixed it for anyone coming back to this thread 3 later later:sunglassesDoge:
You do realize this means the issues you were having with your phone were completely unrelated right?
That whole phone bit was a huge red herring lol
Edit:
and to be fair to the guy that necro'd, it is better to use the search function and find existing threads rather than make repetitious topics. they were trying to do the right thing lol
Last edited by Roland; May 18, 2023 @ 10:49am
Paragon Aug 19, 2024 @ 2:30pm 
Here ismy issue, New genesis plays for about 3 minutes and then my computer completely drops the entire Wi-Fi connection. After a few minutes it'll reconnect. I play games like PoE, the first descendant, and others without issues for hours.

During the pcs internet loss, other devices have no issues using the internet. Have any ideas for me?
Crystal Sharrd Aug 20, 2024 @ 7:25am 
Have you checked for driver updates?
chill out Aug 20, 2024 @ 10:52pm 
Originally posted by Roland:
LMMFAO
This might be the silliest thing I've read in a long time.
There is absolutely no way for PSO2 to "break your wifi".

Sounds like your modem and/or router are ♥♥♥♥ and/or dying.
When's the last time your ISP replaced your modem?
ISPs LOVE to reuse hardware and you almost certainly got a modem that was used by a previous customer and people don't realize they overheat so they stick em in small ass places or under things; this is why it's good practice to get them to swap out the modem every 2 years. And this is extra so for router+modem combos like most ISPs use.

Speaking of routers, if you're using your own you should update the firmware and then do a factory reset on settings, re-applying your own settings by hand after the reset. If it's the ISP router you may be more limited in what you can and cannot do and will have to talk to them about the issue.

TL;DR:
PSO2 can't break your wifi; ♥♥♥♥♥♥ hardware from your ISP can. Talk to your ISP.
it's perfectly possible for PSO2 to kill your local wifi connection device. It can kill bluetooth as well, or any USB connected devices at all.
At least with GameGuard, the anticheat treats every device as a writable block device and completely bypasses system security. It's capable of rewriting the firmware on your game controller or motherboard, but it would require breaking in some pretty specific and unlikely ways to do that by accident.
Oh, but don't worry, anyone can set up a server to pretend to serve you GameGuard updates over the wire, as long as they have your IP address and know when GG is updating, and can feed anything into that update process, so it's also a perfect trojan horse.

idk if wellbia will be any better.
Roland Aug 21, 2024 @ 4:06am 
Originally posted by Majora:
Originally posted by Roland:
LMMFAO
This might be the silliest thing I've read in a long time.
There is absolutely no way for PSO2 to "break your wifi".

Sounds like your modem and/or router are ♥♥♥♥ and/or dying.
When's the last time your ISP replaced your modem?
ISPs LOVE to reuse hardware and you almost certainly got a modem that was used by a previous customer and people don't realize they overheat so they stick em in small ass places or under things; this is why it's good practice to get them to swap out the modem every 2 years. And this is extra so for router+modem combos like most ISPs use.

Speaking of routers, if you're using your own you should update the firmware and then do a factory reset on settings, re-applying your own settings by hand after the reset. If it's the ISP router you may be more limited in what you can and cannot do and will have to talk to them about the issue.

TL;DR:
PSO2 can't break your wifi; ♥♥♥♥♥♥ hardware from your ISP can. Talk to your ISP.
it's perfectly possible for PSO2 to kill your local wifi connection device. It can kill bluetooth as well, or any USB connected devices at all.
At least with GameGuard, the anticheat treats every device as a writable block device and completely bypasses system security. It's capable of rewriting the firmware on your game controller or motherboard, but it would require breaking in some pretty specific and unlikely ways to do that by accident.
Oh, but don't worry, anyone can set up a server to pretend to serve you GameGuard updates over the wire, as long as they have your IP address and know when GG is updating, and can feed anything into that update process, so it's also a perfect trojan horse.

idk if wellbia will be any better.
LMAO no.

Gamegaurd can't even override admin permissions and I can provide you with a test environment to prove it:
  • Use Steam to remap your controller so that one of the keys is a keyboard key and not a controller input. (Personally I used to map auto run to the mic mute button on the Dualsense)

  • Now in game you will see that the button is completely unresponsive because GG doesn't allow keyboard commands from an Xinput device.

  • Next close everything including Steam, and re-launch Steam as Admin by right-clicking and hitting Launch as Administrator.

  • now when you go in game you will find that keyboard key suddenly works and GG isn't stopping it anymore.

GG can't even overwrite admin permissions but you think it's capable of rewriting firmware!? :zaglol::zaglol::zaglol:

You remind me of this kid that swore the Downloads folder was "read only" a couple months back; confidently very wrong.

But I digress, run the test and see for yourself and stop necro-ing 4 year old threads just to say something that is easy to prove false.
chill out Aug 22, 2024 @ 7:08am 
Originally posted by Roland:
Originally posted by Majora:
it's perfectly possible for PSO2 to kill your local wifi connection device. It can kill bluetooth as well, or any USB connected devices at all.
At least with GameGuard, the anticheat treats every device as a writable block device and completely bypasses system security. It's capable of rewriting the firmware on your game controller or motherboard, but it would require breaking in some pretty specific and unlikely ways to do that by accident.
Oh, but don't worry, anyone can set up a server to pretend to serve you GameGuard updates over the wire, as long as they have your IP address and know when GG is updating, and can feed anything into that update process, so it's also a perfect trojan horse.

idk if wellbia will be any better.
LMAO no.

Gamegaurd can't even override admin permissions and I can provide you with a test environment to prove it:
  • Use Steam to remap your controller so that one of the keys is a keyboard key and not a controller input. (Personally I used to map auto run to the mic mute button on the Dualsense)

  • Now in game you will see that the button is completely unresponsive because GG doesn't allow keyboard commands from an Xinput device.

  • Next close everything including Steam, and re-launch Steam as Admin by right-clicking and hitting Launch as Administrator.

  • now when you go in game you will find that keyboard key suddenly works and GG isn't stopping it anymore.

GG can't even overwrite admin permissions but you think it's capable of rewriting firmware!? :zaglol::zaglol::zaglol:

You remind me of this kid that swore the Downloads folder was "read only" a couple months back; confidently very wrong.

But I digress, run the test and see for yourself and stop necro-ing 4 year old threads just to say something that is easy to prove false.
Just saying "it can't even!" doesn't make it true. GG is a known rootkit, and I've seen some of the crazy ♥♥♥♥ it can do.
It's more like, if you run GG as admin, it's more permissive in what I/O it allows. GG it's self has a component operating in the system level to control I/O of input devices, which is how it can block things like unexpected input from input devices.

Also, I didn't necro anything. Do you maybe have some users here blocked?
Crystal Sharrd Aug 22, 2024 @ 7:26am 
Originally posted by Majora:
Originally posted by Roland:
LMAO no.

Gamegaurd can't even override admin permissions and I can provide you with a test environment to prove it:
  • Use Steam to remap your controller so that one of the keys is a keyboard key and not a controller input. (Personally I used to map auto run to the mic mute button on the Dualsense)

  • Now in game you will see that the button is completely unresponsive because GG doesn't allow keyboard commands from an Xinput device.

  • Next close everything including Steam, and re-launch Steam as Admin by right-clicking and hitting Launch as Administrator.

  • now when you go in game you will find that keyboard key suddenly works and GG isn't stopping it anymore.

GG can't even overwrite admin permissions but you think it's capable of rewriting firmware!? :zaglol::zaglol::zaglol:

You remind me of this kid that swore the Downloads folder was "read only" a couple months back; confidently very wrong.

But I digress, run the test and see for yourself and stop necro-ing 4 year old threads just to say something that is easy to prove false.
Just saying "it can't even!" doesn't make it true. GG is a known rootkit, and I've seen some of the crazy ♥♥♥♥ it can do.
It's more like, if you run GG as admin, it's more permissive in what I/O it allows. GG it's self has a component operating in the system level to control I/O of input devices, which is how it can block things like unexpected input from input devices.

Also, I didn't necro anything. Do you maybe have some users here blocked?
Kinda irrelevant now that GameGuard was removed yesterday.
Roland Aug 22, 2024 @ 10:12am 
Originally posted by Majora:
and I've seen some of the crazy ♥♥♥♥ it can do.
No you haven't because it can't.
GG is flimsy and can do very little; I've only been breaking it since PSOBB 20 years ago...
GG's strongest attribute is it's file check, literally everything else it does it doesn't do with any real permissions and that's why Admin mode breaks it so easily.

And you talking about running GG in admin mode is dumb because GG is never MEANT to run in Admin mode, so if you're running GG in Admin mode, you already ♥♥♥♥♥♥ up.
If you go back and re-read my instructions I said to run STEAM in Admin mode, not PSO2, and thus not GG.

So you're entire BS about "running it in admin mode makes it more permissive" no, just no. Stop, because you don't know wtf you're talking about, and in fact running GG and Steam in Admin mode reverts back to the original result of blocking the input, so no running GG in Admin mode does NOT make it more permissive it in fact restores it's original restrictions and is now conflicting for permissions with Steam at that point, making Steam running in Admin irrelevant.

It's painfully obvious you're making ♥♥♥♥ up from things you've read/heard and never tested any of this for yourself, especially when you say doing one thing is going to have the exact opposite effect of what it actually does.

Anyway, as someone else said, none of this matters anymore. So I guess take solace in knowing that it doesn't matter you're wrong.
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