Not a single wingard

[Dr.Octagonapus]

What are these drop rates? Ive seen people run over 700 runs of some of these quests and only get 2.

[Didaibr]

been running alot and have zero to my need, so yeah, 2 are alot!

[Shibi]

Its the flugel fiasco all over again. Its because sega thinks grinding should have rng when it should be straightforward. Let us obtain the materials and craft it. I don't know why they don't understand that.

[Jetspark]

Originally posted by Shibi:

Its the flugel fiasco all over again. Its because sega thinks grinding should have rng when it should be straightforward. Let us obtain the materials and craft it. I don't know why they don't understand that.

Thing is, I wouldn't mind the grind if the grind was actually fun. Then there's the concern of needing many multiples of a rare reagent that only drops during a certain EQ 50% of the time. Remember Zeig in Classic? While I like the idea, that's the kind of crap I want to avoid and I have no faith in any developer to not design that kind of ridiculous time gate.

Speaking of time gates being the antithesis of fun, remember the reports about the endgame time gate in Anthem being very contentious among the dev team?

[Rogue]

Or you can wait till the freebie 11 stars... lol. Ah the cycle repeats.

"Zeig" was not added to PSO2 until way way later and his exchanges. Same thing with the item exchanges in NGS, the freebies or easily earned gear will come eventually... Ah, the cycle repeats.

Did you stack up to close to 500% rdr on pso2 day or just another F2P only pleb?

[Dr.Octagonapus]

Originally posted by Rogue:

Or you can wait till the freebie 11 stars... lol. Ah the cycle repeats.

"Zeig" was not added to PSO2 until way way later and his exchanges. Same thing with the item exchanges in NGS, the freebies or easily earned gear will come eventually... Ah, the cycle repeats.

Did you stack up to close to 500% rdr on pso2 day or just another F2P only pleb?

??? im at 4100 BP and I just want a wingard to drop so I dont have to buy another one off of board. When you wanna waste 700 runs in a dungeon for 1 or 2 drops be my guest pleb.

[Rogue]

Originally posted by Dr.Octagonapus:

Originally posted by Rogue:

Or you can wait till the freebie 11 stars... lol. Ah the cycle repeats.

"Zeig" was not added to PSO2 until way way later and his exchanges. Same thing with the item exchanges in NGS, the freebies or easily earned gear will come eventually... Ah, the cycle repeats.

Did you stack up to close to 500% rdr on pso2 day or just another F2P only pleb?

??? im at 4200 BP and I just want a wingard to drop so I dont have to buy another one off of board. When you wanna waste 700 runs in a dungeon for 1 or 2 drops be my guest pleb.

BP means nothing with regards to loot drop. Only RDR matters. The pay 2 win players ALWAYS have an upperhand to a F2P pleb.

You may win like a lottery winner in a billion dollar bonaza. That's pure luck. Otherwise, wait for freebie 11 stars in the future...

[Prokaizer]

4.200 BP? May i ask what your equipment is sir?

[Dr.Octagonapus]

Originally posted by Rogue:

Originally posted by Dr.Octagonapus:

??? im at 4200 BP and I just want a wingard to drop so I dont have to buy another one off of board. When you wanna waste 700 runs in a dungeon for 1 or 2 drops be my guest pleb.

BP means nothing with regards to loot drop. Only RDR matters. The pay 2 win players ALWAYS have an upperhand to a F2P pleb.

You may win like a lottery winner in a billion dollar bonaza. That's pure luck. Otherwise, wait for freebie 11 stars in the future...

Dude cant even read, making comments unrelatable to drop tables. who df would want to wait that long? No one.

[Dr.Octagonapus]

Originally posted by Prokaizer:

4.200 BP? May i ask what your equipment is sir?

miss type, its 4139. meant to put 4100s. wingard multi weapon with Einea hybrids, and a couple of the high end augments.

[Harmless Kitty]

Originally posted by Dr.Octagonapus:

Dude cant even read, making comments unrelatable to drop tables.

Think there's a slight miscommunication here. The RDR Rogue is talking about are the Rare Drop Rate boosters that increases rare drop chances. It has nothing to do with your BP.

[Mistfox]

Originally posted by Dr.Octagonapus:

Dude cant even read, making comments unrelatable to drop tables. who df would want to wait that long? No one.

?
RDR = Rare Drop Rate booster. It IS related to drop tables.
It increases the amount of drops you get, indirectly raising the chance of you getting a rare item, with the unfortunate side effect of filling your inventory with junk.

PSO2 has a sequential drop table, it "rolls" to see if you get another drop after you get the first one, an RDR booster increases the chance of you getting "the next drop".

For example (not accurate, just an example) the chances of you getting 1 drop is 100%, 2 drops is 100%, 3 drops is 90%, 4 drops is 50%, 5 drops is 10%. When you kill something, the computer "rolls" drop 1 and succeeds, you get 1 item. Then it rolls for the next item, (100%) and succeeds, then you get 2 items in total, then it "rolls" to see if you get 3 items (90%). If it fails, you only get 2 items and the process stops. If it succeeds, you get 3 items and it rolls for a 4th etc etc.

RDR boosters just raise the "chance for next item" odds by x%. For example 300% RDR would change the odds to (300%, 300%, 270%, 150% and 30%) in my example. So you get more chances for a rare item but with the side effect of filling with junk very fast.

[Dr.Octagonapus]

Originally posted by Mistfox:

Originally posted by Dr.Octagonapus:

Dude cant even read, making comments unrelatable to drop tables. who df would want to wait that long? No one.

?
RDR = Rare Drop Rate booster. It IS related to drop tables.
It increases the amount of drops you get, indirectly raising the chance of you getting a rare item, with the unfortunate side effect of filling your inventory with junk.

PSO2 has a sequential drop table, it "rolls" to see if you get another drop after you get the first one, an RDR booster increases the chance of you getting "the next drop".

For example (not accurate, just an example) the chances of you getting 1 drop is 100%, 2 drops is 100%, 3 drops is 90%, 4 drops is 50%, 5 drops is 10%. When you kill something, the computer "rolls" drop 1 and succeeds, you get 1 item. Then it rolls for the next item, (100%) and succeeds, then you get 2 items in total, then it "rolls" to see if you get 3 items (90%). If it fails, you only get 2 items and the process stops. If it succeeds, you get 3 items and it rolls for a 4th etc etc.

RDR boosters just raise the "chance for next item" odds by x%. For example 300% RDR would change the odds to (300%, 300%, 270%, 150% and 30%) in my example. So you get more chances for a rare item but with the side effect of filling with junk very fast.

I am aware what RDR does, but having 300-400% increased rate for an hour? just to farm for gear when you probably wont even get it.

[Shiyo]

Originally posted by Shibi:

Its the flugel fiasco all over again. Its because sega thinks grinding should have rng when it should be straightforward. Let us obtain the materials and craft it. I don't know why they don't understand that.

There should always be "bis youll never see drops" imo.
However,,,Xoveris so easy to get then wingard doesn't exist. Two extremes is boring.

[Raevenent]

First time?

[Mistfox]

Originally posted by Raevenent:

First time?

lol good one.