The Market Place Is A Joke

[Kuro]

You have none-featured items selling more than items that are featured. Then the market is being inflated with maseta obtained by breaking the ToS (Multi-account red box farming and gold sellers). The only form of regulation from SEGA is the minimum selling price that was set for their featured items.

Sega, what else are you going to do? Do we need a big time streamer to complain about the market before this issue is acknowledged?

Well, the streamer part isn't going to happen since they don't make it past the tutorial due to people harassing them. It's probably time to bring the game's communication system to 2021.

[Oni]

The 500k minimum featured price is stupid, but it's not unexpected for a non-featured item to end up more expensive.
And RMT or red containers have nothing to do with inflation, it's just basic supply and demand. A more popular item will get bought by more people, which will raise the price.

[Kuro]

Originally posted by Oni:

The 500k minimum featured price is stupid, but it's not unexpected for a non-featured item to end up more expensive.
And RMT or red containers have nothing to do with inflation, it's just basic supply and demand. A more popular item will get bought by more people, which will raise the price.

It does. People are selling N-Grinders for +900k and people are buying them. They take that 900k to buy the ludicrous priced items. Then no one is willing to drop their item prices because people are buying it regardless of the price.

[Nope]

Originally posted by Kuro:

Originally posted by Oni:

The 500k minimum featured price is stupid, but it's not unexpected for a non-featured item to end up more expensive.
And RMT or red containers have nothing to do with inflation, it's just basic supply and demand. A more popular item will get bought by more people, which will raise the price.

It does. People are selling N-Grinders for +900k and people are buying them. They take that 900k to buy the ludicrous priced items. Then no one is willing to drop their item prices because people are buying it regardless of the price.

Those are the one that abusing the system and bots. Likely to get flagged as RMT an permanent banned

[Oni]

The RMTs are just scams they aren't actually selling meseta, there's not any effective ways for bots to make meseta in NGS. Even using multiple accounts to farm red boxes won't net you that much, especially for the time. The only ones with a ton of meseta are whales dumping money into AC scratches and then selling the items, which just feeds the supply of the items and keeps their prices stable for longer.

The most expensive items in the new scratches go for like 1.5 mil, if things were working like you assume they'd be getting bought much more often and would be much more expensive as a result. But I managed to get most of the several things I wanted for around 2-3 mil.

[Kuro]

Originally posted by Nope:

Originally posted by Kuro:

It does. People are selling N-Grinders for +900k and people are buying them. They take that 900k to buy the ludicrous priced items. Then no one is willing to drop their item prices because people are buying it regardless of the price.

Those are the one that abusing the system and bots. Likely to get flagged as RMT an permanent banned

What happens to the maeseta that they spent before they got banned?

[Kuro]

Originally posted by Oni:

The RMTs are just scams they aren't actually selling meseta, there's not any effective ways for bots to make meseta in NGS. Even using multiple accounts to farm red boxes won't net you that much, especially for the time. The only ones with a ton of meseta are whales dumping money into AC scratches and then selling the items, which just feeds the supply of the items and keeps their prices stable for longer.

The most expensive items in the new scratches go for like 1.5 mil, if things were working like you assume they'd be getting bought much more often and would be much more expensive as a result. But I managed to get most of the several things I wanted for around 2-3 mil.

Red creates - 530k
Alpha Reactors - 49k
Total = 579k per account.

ToS breaker can earn over 1 mill with just 2 accounts.

[Oni]

Farming all of those takes a long time and they have to transfer the meseta which loses 10%, not even including if they catch a ban in the process. It doesn't end up being much meseta for the time it takes, and if people want to convert real money into meseta they can just buy AC, play a scratch, and sell the items.

The market/economy is working normally, some items are just in higher demand and are given as prizes more rarely than others.
But the majority of items are completely affordable even for free players.

[Kuro]

Originally posted by Oni:

Farming all of those takes a long time and they have to transfer the meseta which loses 10%, not even including if they catch a ban in the process. It doesn't end up being much meseta for the time it takes, and if people want to convert real money into meseta they can just buy AC, play a scratch, and sell the items.

The market/economy is working normally, some items are just in higher demand and are given as prizes more rarely than others.
But the majority of items are completely affordable even for free players.

How long is long? Because it can take 1-3 hours to get 100k maeseta through PSE burst farming. And people who sell AC items might not see their item sold for days.

Even if they get banned, the illegally obtainable maeseta isn't removed from circulation - unless people are pouring all of it into the NPCs.

[Oni]

If an item isn't selling then it's either priced too high or just not enough people want it.

And collecting all of the red containers doesn't just involve having to collect them all, it also involves having to make multiple accounts and get through the tutorials and gaining access to all of the areas each time.
Not even including the tedium of it all.

It will get you a chunk of meseta if you don't get banned first, but it won't be nearly enough to affect the economy on a meaningful scale.

[Kuro]

Originally posted by Oni:

If an item isn't selling then it's either priced too high or just not enough people want it.

And collecting all of the red containers doesn't just involve having to collect them all, it also involves having to make multiple accounts and get through the tutorials and gaining access to all of the areas each time.
Not even including the tedium of it all.

It will get you a chunk of meseta if you don't get banned first, but it won't be nearly enough to affect the economy on a meaningful scale.

Is it taking 15 hours to go through the tutorial...? Because either way, they're making more maeseta than PSE Burst farmers. A chunk can add up.

[Oni]

And whales dumping dollars into AC scratches are making more than everyone.

All that matters is the supply and demand of items, and so far no items currently circulating are outrageously priced.
Even the most expensive ones are usually affordable on the profit from weeklies, people just have to manage their meseta spending a little.

[Hexo Mia]

The market place is nothing but a joke right now, its just boiled down to whales ♥♥♥♥ waving each over, because regula players won't be able to afford the ridiculous prices they put stuff on sale.

F2P players just cant compete even if they get a shop pass because there is literally nothing to sale beside AC items.

[X2dZ]

Originally posted by Kuro:

Red creates - 530k
Alpha Reactors - 49k
Total = 579k per account.

ToS breaker can earn over 1 mill with just 2 accounts.

None of those alts are going to farm all 530k of them. The ideal path only has select number of red boxes as the others like the resola forest ones involve running thru the story and raising your BP.

[Princess Ariana]

Originally posted by Roderick✪Legend:

The market place is nothing but a joke right now, its just boiled down to whales ♥♥♥♥ waving each over, because regula players won't be able to afford the ridiculous prices they put stuff on sale.

F2P players just cant compete even if they get a shop pass because there is literally nothing to sale beside AC items.

f2p will need to forgeo minmax gear in order to participate in fashion, but as long as you don't want too many emote/poses/hairs/accessories, you won't be too badly off. It hasn't gotten as bad as base pso2 yet.

[JOE◎4708]

I mean I can search the market place find a low selling price for an unwanted ugly outfit or accessory but few pages later it is selling twice or thrice the value.

It's a joke.