Phantasy Star Online 2 New Genesis

Phantasy Star Online 2 New Genesis

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Invertex Aug 2, 2023 @ 10:55pm
Any tips on the Leciel Exploration 5x5 puzzle?
From what I can tell each column and row lets you know how many minimum blue or lit (green) blocks there are.. But it doesn't give you a total just a minimum, you have to take into account other columns/rows intersecting to figure it out, which is insane to do in such little time for a 5x5, especially since you have to reset the whole field to turn blocks back off...

So surely there's a trick to this I'm missing that I'm sure others have figured out.
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EternalShinobi Aug 2, 2023 @ 11:12pm 
Ignore the colors they're misleading. It's all numbers. The number indicate how many buttons in that row should be pressed.
Invertex Aug 3, 2023 @ 8:26am 
Even with that being the case, it's still hard as balls imo. Because you still don't know WHICH buttons should be pressed in that strip. So surely there's something else missing that helps indicate that, without having to figure out and memorize the probabilities of dozens of cells to then determine which are the pressed ones.

A 2 press row intersecting with a 2 press column doesn't give me enough information to say if it's that specific intersection that should be pressed, or if it's at another... You have to compare so much extra information.
blakbyrd Aug 3, 2023 @ 9:33pm 
I saw a link to this explanation on twitter today: https://twitter.com/Flyergo/status/1686900753288355840
skill issue Aug 4, 2023 @ 3:05am 
Rifle it
that's the optimal strat
(Place a landmine inside of the green barrier)
Didaibr Aug 4, 2023 @ 6:45am 
Originally posted by blakbyrd:
I saw a link to this explanation on twitter today: https://twitter.com/Flyergo/status/1686900753288355840

Thats what I thought, you start from the bigger ones but like he/she said you dont have time to solve, its better leave or try to break the boxes with a ranged attack
RX-3DR Aug 5, 2023 @ 5:51am 
Practice with this : http://liouh.com/picross/

The numbers indicate how many in connection (e.g. 4 has to be 4 in a row), the split numbers indicate that there is a blank space between them (e.g. 1-1 means there is 2 singular blocks separated by some amount of space)

You just need to know the approach to how to solve it.
1. Look for rows with 5, 3-1, 2-2, 1-1-1 because these rows can only have 1 pattern.
e.g. 5 = [x][x][x][x][x] OR 3-1 = [x][x][x][_][x]

2. Look for hits on the side of walls if they have a large number because they can only go in 1 direction.
e.g. 4 = [x][_][_][_][_] has to be 4 = [x][x][x][x][_] OR 2-1 = [x][_][_][_][_] has to be 2-1 = [x][x][_][?][?]

3. Look for connections of larger numbers based on what hits you have.
e.g 3 = [x][_][x][_][_] has to be 3 = [x][x][x][_][_] OR 2-1 = [_][x][_][x][_] has to be [x][x][_][x][_]

Most of the board will be filled then, which means you just need to get the rest by checking if the vertical and horizontal will add up correctly. With the knowledge of what to look out for, you will be able to eventually derive the answer. With practice, you will be able to spot all the certain answers quickly and clear majority of the board rapidly. Just that certain boards might be a bit confusing when you're down to the last few 1-1, 2-1 and 2.
Last edited by RX-3DR; Aug 5, 2023 @ 5:52am
Invertex Aug 17, 2023 @ 10:32pm 
Yeah, knowing now that the numbers indicate contiguous blocks makes this a lot easier to solve in a reasonable time. Thanks
Drex Aug 25, 2023 @ 11:10am 
Only thing I can say is look up guides on how to play Picross because that's exactly what it is. Personally I too, move too slow to consider doing this in a timed event like that. Actually, it might not be so bad if you could toggle the switches back, but if you boob up one and have to go reset the whole platform it's kind of an issue, they should change that.

I am questioning how many solutions are really there though, for the first week and a half, I noticed all the 4x4 and 5x5 of this puzzle had the same solution and had a cheat sheet ready. However after that first 10 days or so, I finally started to run into some without the same solution.
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