PSU was the best

[TheHateMaker]

use based leveling of skill, no pay to win, no cash shop... i would gladly pay a monthly sub to play PSU again.... shame.

[pseudo]

reminder that clementine does exist if you wish to take a nostalgia trip. But yeah I think games were at a good place back then and I wonder if we'll ever manage to get that back. Probably not.

[GriffinFire101]

Offline mode was the best idea ever in an online game.

[Hermit]

Damn right. There is nothing I want more than a modern version of a PSO game that plays like PSU. PSO2 didn't quite scratch that itch and NGS definitely doesn't come anywhere close.

I could run the dungeons on PSU over and over again and never get bored. Start up a mission, kill a group of enemies, move to the next block, do the same again and maybe have a boss at the end of the 3rd or 4th block. It's simple mission structure, but it was really fun for me. I feel like they dumbed that down massively in PSO2. The missions in PSO2 were fun, but I hated that you could just zoom through so much of it without killing enemies to unlock access to the next block. It just didn't have that same dopamine hit that PSU had. Oh, and those lobbies, you don't see anything like that in gaming anymore.

The slower combat and fewer enemies to kill was actually way more fun than what we have in NGS. Fast combat, lots of flashy particles and enemies all over the place doesn't automatically make it a better action game. Take Elden Ring for example, it's much slower, has way fewer enemies, but that combat is so much more satisfying overall. I loved PSU's combat, and if we were to have another PSO game like it, all it would need is a jump and dodge and it would be perfect for me.

I don't know if Sega see's the game as a failure, I know the fanbase mostly feels that way, but if it is a failure, I don't think it was because it was a bad game, it was just executed in typical Sega fashion. A lot of the issues we see with the progression of NGS were exactly the same in PSU, and when you add all of these issues with subscription model, it's much harder to sustain a player base.

The Clementine team have done an amazing job to resurrect the game, even improving it in many ways, I'm not a fan of the new grinding system and loot drop rate though. I would love to keep playing it, but the problem with PSU is that it's brutally boring playing by yourself, at least from my point of view, and you will regularly struggle to find people to play with on it. It's just how it is with private servers sadly, it's only going to have around 100 players at peak times.

[X2dZ]

If that didn't have double jumping, zooming and flying, then pass. How was base pso2 pay2win?

[Hermit]

Originally posted by X2dZ:

If that didn't have double jumping, zooming and flying, then pass. How was base pso2 pay2win?

You couldn't jump at all in PSU, it wasn't needed.

[B.M]

You could with certain PAs though.

[pseudo]

Originally posted by X2dZ:

If that didn't have double jumping, zooming and flying, then pass. How was base pso2 pay2win?

Putting the zoom back in zoomer aren't ya.

[GriffinFire101]

Originally posted by X2dZ:

If that didn't have double jumping, zooming and flying, then pass. How was base pso2 pay2win?

No one is talking about p2w. Keep that somewhere else.

[Crystal Sharrd]

Personally I think base PSO2 pre-NGS and Phantasy Star 0 are the best.

[GriffinFire101]

pso1 and zero are my favorite despite having no nostalgia towards them.

[Ikagura]

The base game (aka PSU episode 1) not really but with Ambition of the Illuminus and especially with Portable 1 (iInfinity) it became really good.

Originally posted by Crystal Sharrd:

Personally I think base PSO2 pre-NGS and Phantasy Star 0 are the best.

I'd even say Pre-Episode 4 (when they changed director).


Phantasy Star Zero is a nice handheld game that was sadly a bit clunky with a 3D that didn't age well (even if it's a great looking DS game in 3D) and with less keys to control (PSO on the DC had a joystick and a d-pad, the DS only had the D-pad).

It deserved a sequel/remake on the 3DS...

[JasonX1984]

sorry did not like PSU or PSU2 to get access to final thing of the game you have to play the game on Online mode i did not have access to the internet back then so tell me now it a good and to force people to get online mode get the full story is out right wrong if you do not have access to the internet you did not get the full story so sorry PSU and PSU2 are not good games i can tell what a real good game and it old one at that Phantasy star 4 you get full story and you do not need access to the internet to get full storyline yes it old butt a real good one

[女王ルナ]

Originally posted by TheHateMaker:

use based leveling of skill, no pay to win, no cash shop... i would gladly pay a monthly sub to play PSU again.... shame.

PSO1 and PSU still alive thanks to community driven servers.

Ultima PSO1
( its crossplay with GC / DC/ PC versions so youll see people from one of those platform playing)

and for PSU look up PSU-clementine

[GriffinFire101]

Originally posted by JasonX1984:

sorry did not like PSU or PSU2 to get access to final thing of the game you have to play the game on Online mode i did not have access to the internet back then so tell me now it a good and to force people to get online mode get the full story is out right wrong if you do not have access to the internet you did not get the full story so sorry PSU and PSU2 are not good games i can tell what a real good game and it old one at that Phantasy star 4 you get full story and you do not need access to the internet to get full storyline yes it old butt a real good one

I see that as a greedy error on sega's part but i don't think the whole game was bad and i like it more than pso2 in terms of how the game is played. My dream phantasy star game is a combo of pso1, zero, and universe.
While we are on the topic of what we don't like about the game the art style is bad. i hate how the only character that are pleasant to look at are the main characters.

[JasonX1984]

Originally posted by 女王ルナ:

Originally posted by TheHateMaker:

use based leveling of skill, no pay to win, no cash shop... i would gladly pay a monthly sub to play PSU again.... shame.

PSO1 and PSU still alive thanks to community driven servers.

Ultima PSO1
( its crossplay with GC / DC/ PC versions so youll see people from one of those platform playing)

and for PSU look up PSU-clementine
( though it only lets you use controller - _ - unlike PSO1)

so you are saying they are up and running today ok you need money to play them right?