Braver bow user is so weak

[Tazz]

i love bow Braver at pso2 skill but at NGS this class is suck it dosn,t have dodging skill how can a bow user don,t have dodging skill.... is this kamikaze bow user all in history of bow user dodging skill is priority... from Arrow season 1 till season 8 Oliver Queen as Green Arrow use dodging skill as priority skill must have in bow master....what the heck SEGA done to this awesome class

[TQuinTV]

I love the fanboy excusesplaining here. NGS bow is trash compared to the old one and the garbage katana is the same. Of the current 20 classes across both games, this is the first I'll skip.

[Princess Ariana]

ok cool story bro, plenty of ppl like new braver. sucks for you

[X2dZ]

Looks fine to me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eA0uZHgy09U
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=msbiQQEBIHA

[Rogue]

There's the whiners and there's the git guders... It's unavoidable.

[Oni]

People complained that new cosmetics aren't content, apparently new classes aren't content either, and the class sucks because it doesn't turn you into Saitama. lol

[Tazz]

Struggling make something broken a batter look...even i can fight bujin with normal attack and shift dodge only but it will hurt my arm... because my hand move more then it capable of

[Mute]

Publicado originalmente por Oni:

People complained that new cosmetics aren't content, apparently new classes aren't content either,

It would be content if there actually was other content to enjoy with a new class.
no_content * Braver = more ways to enjoy no_content = no_content

[Rogue]

Publicado originalmente por Mute:

Publicado originalmente por Oni:

People complained that new cosmetics aren't content, apparently new classes aren't content either,

It would be content if there actually was other content to enjoy with a new class.
no_content * Braver = more ways to enjoy no_content = no_content

Existing_content + Braver = new content. This is correct formula since the experience is different. But is it enough, that's another thing. Trust me, it's NEVER enough.

Since I'm not forced to play it, I can wait. Even for subbed games, stop sub and wait. Better yet, there are always other games or "gasp" real life stuff to do...

[Lazaflame]

Publicado originalmente por Mute:

Publicado originalmente por Oni:

People complained that new cosmetics aren't content, apparently new classes aren't content either,

It would be content if there actually was other content to enjoy with a new class.
no_content * Braver = more ways to enjoy no_content = no_content

I mean new classes in vanila did come w/ actual content, the d-riding for sega is crazy.

[VanillaLucia]

Publicado originalmente por X2dZ:

Looks fine to me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eA0uZHgy09U
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=msbiQQEBIHA

In regards to that first video you shared, I am curious of what players wanted to see outside of the fights like the Bujin. I don't use the Katana because I don't like the animations and the way the weapon is handled in the base game (and it looks the same to me in New Genesis) but that video definitely doesn't utilize any of the new counter-attacks the Braver has (the auto-counter that comes up if you delay an attack or the weapon action counter) and simply rushes into the fight similarly to how you would have as a Hero or Phantom in the original game with step-counters and filling in the blanks with photon arts.

I know where I have read discussions, there are numerous complaints regarding how the attacks seem too weak or how the weapon action counters (which a lot of classes currently capitalize on) are underwhelming compared to other weapons.

At least for me, I feel the Braver overall lost so much of their skill ceiling and depth but in exchange got a much friendlier and cleaner foundation to build back up on. I don't really know anyone with a bow (at least in the higher level content of the original game) who spent their time "sniping" bosses or enemies as much as they were playing the high-end DPS game where you learned to click to a metronome and learned to balance that with the context of a boss or enemy you were fighting unless it was dead air (such as preparing Final Nemesis to pre-fire it at the right time). I really did prefer the speed of the older Braver but I don't see why that isn't a possibility for now in New Genesis, though it does make me worried for the Bouncer considering how simple they already are to play.

[Tazz]

one thing i realize in NGS is all class have the same DPS no matter u range or mele only u tweak your items can make the dps much higher ..enchanting weapon to +40 and put some augment increase potency on your weapon or put it in your armor ...now it can be specific kind of classes who use it...after that u got some dps but it will not be as much , but there a little bit of dps for skill yes it is open world u have to master of dodging and perfect timing your attack but when you framing for experience and mesata it will take hour and hour you farming ..minimum for good farming 4 hours perfect farming it well take days ....imagine you go farming at forest for hours and hours with so little dps and struggling dodge here and there and your hands feel cramps just to fight for 2 or 3 round and u have a days to go that mean more round will come....hahaha i think it batter standby some ice bucket so u can put your hand in it if u feel really pain....and for pso2 every class have their own characteristic for mele like hunter it have high dps and good at damage reduction but slow in attack ...now they have solution for hunter weakness they crafted skill disk for hunter so it can attack very fast that is " blaze parry" this skill is same like hero attack much faster and high dps so we have fun to play with hunter class....what video game really is for fun not for pain if u feel pain for playing it batter to stop that was wrong really really wrong but if u feel fun from playing it that the goal that the reason video game build... it for fun

[Princess Ariana]

Publicado originalmente por Tazz:

one thing i realize in NGS is all class have the same DPS no matter u range or mele only u tweak your items can make the dps much higher ..enchanting weapon to +40 and put some augment increase potency on your weapon or put it in your armor ...now it can be specific kind of classes who use it...after that u got some dps but it will not be as much , but there a little bit of dps for skill yes it is open world u have to master of dodging and perfect timing your attack but when you framing for experience and mesata it will take hour and hour you farming ..minimum for good farming 4 hours perfect farming it well take days ....imagine you go farming at forest for hours and hours with so little dps and struggling dodge here and there and your hands feel cramps just to fight for 2 or 3 round and u have a days to go that mean more round will come....hahaha i think it batter standby some ice bucket so u can put your hand in it if u feel really pain....and for pso2 every class have their own characteristic for mele like hunter it have high dps and good at damage reduction but slow in attack ...now they have solution for hunter weakness they crafted skill disk for hunter so it can attack very fast that is " blaze parry" this skill is same like hero attack much faster and high dps so we have fun to play with hunter class....what video game really is for fun not for pain if u feel pain for playing it batter to stop that was wrong really really wrong but if u feel fun from playing it that the goal that the reason video game build... it for fun

factually untrue. All classes have different avg dps, altho overall it tends to go melee > ranged => tech.

Fi has the highest dps by a good margin. Hu needs to avenger constantly to reach fi level dps and that just doesn't happen, but hu is second highest. Ra is third highest (maybe 4th after blight cancel nerf), Gu is fourth highest, Fo is fifth highest, and Te is last.

Braver is interesting. Katana looks to be about Hu level, maybe slightly lower than sword. While Bow is pretty...underpowered, and about on par with Fo.

[AN BIFFED ELF!!!!]

no content? hitting full ray arrows from a distance has me feeling pretty content.

[Requimatic]

???

I've tanked three Urgent Quest bosses with Bow today alone.

[bloodymonarch]

Disregard OP, he's clearly not the fastest mind on the planet.