I have some concern about the New Genesis expansion coming out soon.

[Knight of the Redlotus]

Right now the game play perfectly well, but what concern me is that when the new graphic comes in. My laptop won't be able to play it anymore because it might require a much more powerful PC to play the game without trouble.

[Rogue]

Unless your laptop is a real potato that predates year 2005 (The system specs for current setup is for a graphic card that built in 2005), just lower the settings and configure the laptop properly and it should still work.

It's 2020, 2021 soon. I think you can afford a new PC or even a Xbox series S and play PSO2...

[Knight of the Redlotus]

Originally posted by Rogue:

Unless your laptop is a real potato that predates year 2000, just lower the settings and configure the laptop properly and it should still work.

I got the laptop last year so the potato part is isn't in play. Still the game could become too strong for it. Only next year will reveal anything.

[Rogue]

Originally posted by RedlotusX:

Originally posted by Rogue:

Unless your laptop is a real potato that predates year 2000, just lower the settings and configure the laptop properly and it should still work.

I got the laptop last year so the potato part is isn't in play. Still the game could become too strong for it. Only next year will reveal anything.

If it's recent and use the new model gpu, should not be a problem. New genesis don't use stupid fps sink graphic features like lifelike hair or rtx...

Only problem is how you setup the laptop due to its multiple graphic chips... One for "power savings" and the other for gaming or heavier graphical workload.

[Alshian]

Developer or somewhere in the questions and answers did state that you may need a more better PC to run this game from now on. Assuming your PC/Laptop were dated or potato, its time for an upgrade since there should be plenty of optimal enough gaming PC/laptop somewhere in a affordable price.

I can only say pray that you meet the spec requirements.

[Kossy]

You'll need something better than ancient technology, but it's not in the best interests of devs to make the game need something too modern. Especially for Japan where PC gaming wasn't as mainstream as it is in many other places. In fact, that's the reason why PSO2 was designed to be able to run on a toaster and has only recently (relatively speaking) been getting tweaks for better max settings.

[Alshian]

Sad thing is that better graphics would get more players to take a look instead of too many players saying:

"Ew the graphics are too dated and might play bad, prob dead by now."

Better graphics makes a good eye candy enough for folks to take a look and hopefully try the game to stay for awhile.

Its a shame but its a method to get people to look at it, plus 'new genesis' have a lot of fluid movement which I am sure a lot love (of course moving fingers)

I in the other hand prefer gameplay than looks but if it have both without hindering gameplay then thats good.

Its also sad that few were not blessed with a rig that can handle pso2 and its future graphical update but that is honestly on the players not the devs that try to make the game grow. Perhaps you should try growing with the devs too.

Plus believe it or not some decent gaming rigs are at affordable prices now or at least the bare minimal to play the game. "I don't have the money to get a gaming rig" shame since its a free to play game that will be your only gatekeep. Hopefully you can afford an Xbox for it at least.

Hope all of us can get a decent rig to play the new graphics, there is also the chance of better options on making it playable by fiddling with the graphical choices it might bring.

Though if you DO own the new Xbox you could be set.

[Atmo26]

Just quit the game when NGS lands. I'm scheduled to drop the game completely some time before NGS as my new but really weak PC can't deal even with nowadays Warframe without suffering a lot in general performance. There are other games around, don't worry too much... except if you actually sank some money in this game, then you really should try to upgrade your machine.

[Hare+Guu!]

Lowest I'd recommend is a 6series intel/ryzen 1 and a 900series nvidia/300 series amd gpu. They're overhauling the engine, so expect the performance of current aaa games.

[Unzerbrechlich]

Originally posted by RedlotusX:

Right now the game play perfectly well, but what concern me is that when the new graphic comes in. My laptop won't be able to play it anymore because it might require a much more powerful PC to play the game without trouble.

I'm in the same boat my fear actually is that the update to vanilla pso2 will make it unplayable for me.

720p is always an option but if that is not enough?

[Kyroliger]

i mean you're fine, they stated that both games will co exist. both the new one with new graphics and this one with these graphics. you don't have to play with the new graphics.

[ShinGitS]

Originally posted by Kyroliger:

i mean you're fine, they stated that both games will co exist. both the new one with new graphics and this one with these graphics. you don't have to play with the new graphics.

No, PSO2 base (non-new genesis) will get the same graphics engine as NGS.

https://pso2.com/news/announcements/pso2ngsannouncement

"Finally, PSO2's core graphics engine will also be overhauled, allowing you to use characters created with PSO2: NGS's system within PSO2 as well. Naturally, ALL character creation info from PSO2 (including items linked to emotes and other previously registered data) will be compatible with PSO2: NGS!

Note: The system requirements for the PC version will increase when PSO2 is updated to meet PSO2: NGS's standards. "

[Kossy]

Guys you're also overblowing this panic over the system requirements going up.

We had a minimum system requirement increase way back when Episode 4 just launched and brought with it Tier 6 graphics and that increase wound up being nothing that massive while still allowing potato PCs (not to mention the friggin PS Vita) to support the game on lower settings.

Again, the devs do not want to raise the requirements to anything too high because PC gaming is still more niche in Japan, so they designed the game to be able to run on many sub-par PCs to have the widest retention of their target audience. This is not going to change with New Genesis unless you're using a PC or laptop that's over a decade old and outperformed by the PS Vita... in which case this game is the least of your issues already. If you're currently playing the game on max graphics settings? You're fine. If you play smoothly on min settings? You're still fine. If you have ISSUES on min settings, get something from within this decade as you're the only ones that actually have any reason to be concerned.

[Hermit]

Originally posted by Kossy:

Guys you're also overblowing this panic over the system requirements going up.

We had a minimum system requirement increase way back when Episode 4 just launched and brought with it Tier 6 graphics and that increase wound up being nothing that massive while still allowing potato PCs (not to mention the friggin PS Vita) to support the game on lower settings.

Again, the devs do not want to raise the requirements to anything too high because PC gaming is still more niche in Japan, so they designed the game to be able to run on many sub-par PCs to have the widest retention of their target audience. This is not going to change with New Genesis unless you're using a PC or laptop that's over a decade old and outperformed by the PS Vita... in which case this game is the least of your issues already. If you're currently playing the game on max graphics settings? You're fine. If you play smoothly on min settings? You're still fine. If you have ISSUES on min settings, get something from within this decade as you're the only ones that actually have any reason to be concerned.

It most definitely IS going to change with New Genesis. It's not just a small upgrade in graphics, it's a complete overhaul. This is something that is going to have to be a necessity seeing as both games will work alongside each other on the same client.

Both PSO2 and New Genesis will require the same minimum specs. You can't just have PSO2 having one set of minimum specs and then New Genesis have a different set.

Honestly, I don't care about those that have weak PC's. That may sound harsh, but I hoping the New Genesis update will bring much needed improvements to how the game looks. I will be really disappointed if AA remains as bad as it is now, same goes for the bad frame rate in lobbies. I hope and expect big improvements in those areas.

[Kossy]

Originally posted by HermitST:

Originally posted by Kossy:

Guys you're also overblowing this panic over the system requirements going up.

We had a minimum system requirement increase way back when Episode 4 just launched and brought with it Tier 6 graphics and that increase wound up being nothing that massive while still allowing potato PCs (not to mention the friggin PS Vita) to support the game on lower settings.

Again, the devs do not want to raise the requirements to anything too high because PC gaming is still more niche in Japan, so they designed the game to be able to run on many sub-par PCs to have the widest retention of their target audience. This is not going to change with New Genesis unless you're using a PC or laptop that's over a decade old and outperformed by the PS Vita... in which case this game is the least of your issues already. If you're currently playing the game on max graphics settings? You're fine. If you play smoothly on min settings? You're still fine. If you have ISSUES on min settings, get something from within this decade as you're the only ones that actually have any reason to be concerned.

It most definitely IS going to change with New Genesis. It's not just a small upgrade in graphics, it's a complete overhaul. This is something that is going to have to be a necessity seeing as both games will work alongside each other on the same client.

Both PSO2 and New Genesis will require the same minimum specs. You can just have PSO2 having one set of minimum specs and then New Genesis have a different set.

Honestly, I don't care about those that have weak PC's. That may sound harsh, but I hoping the New Genesis update will bring much needed improvements to how the game looks. I will be really disappointed if AA remains as bad as it is now, same goes for the bad frame rate in lobbies. I hope and expect big improvements in those areas.

Please tell me at what point I said it was not going to change. Go on, show me where I stated as much. Tell me where I claimed PSO2 and New Genesis would have separate minimums needed. while you're at it Again, I'll gladly wait for you to find where I made these claims to validate the counterarguments you're making against something that was neither stated nor implied.

Did you simply skim my post and not actually read it? I never claimed the specs weren't going to change. The fact PSO2JP is ending Vita support in prep for the New Genesis upgrade is proof in and of itself of that. My statement, based off personal experience with the changes and upgrades the game has had in the past 8 years as well as the information given to us by the devs themselves, was that you're all blowing this out of proportion and overhyping it. Which remains the case.

They cite moving fingers as a huge point but we've had NPCs that could do that since Episode 4's Sachiko concerts and that will only apply to New Genesis outfits. We've also had graphics and min spec updates before. They have never been so large a gap that anyone playing smoothly on minimum settings beforehand found themselves unable to play after because the devs do not want to lose a ton of their low specs PC players. Hence why I've pointed out that unless your PC is running on specs comparable to a Vita, which we know from JP is getting axed for New Genesis, you should be fine on min settings.

Anyone currently running on anything above min settings? They'll be fine after this hits. Those running on min settings with no issues at all? Also going to be fine. Those currently experiencing issues on min settings? They're the ones who have to worry as the upgrade is very likely going to raise the bar from "experiencing even minor issues occasionally" to "cannot play" for them. However, to be experiencing issues on min settings right now you'd need to be playing something ancient and dated since, again, the game currently is at a point where it could be run on a Playstation Vita. Look up the Vita's specs. Anything that's close to that won't be supported when New Genesis hits. Anything well above that (which includes most smartphones made within the past 5 or so years, to give an example of how low the bar was set) is likely to be fine.



tl;dr: If your PC or laptop isn't so old you should be replacing it anyway, you don't have to worry about being below the minimum settings when New Genesis hits. Seeing as OP is playing perfectly fine right now on what's likely not min settings? They shouldn't be concerned.

[Alshian]

^^^^^^ Straight facts here.