why is it so hard to get an advanced quest group?

[Misfit]

can take forever sometimes to get 4 people.

there should be some kind of automatch, the process atm is tedious.
should not be so hard to get 4 people for the best leveling method.

[Niju]

Okay, that's really not bad at all. I didn't know how a best case scenario run in there could look like and my guess is: neither do most new players, who still need EXP (instead of high tier 13* Weapons from Ultimate Qs).

EDIT: I see a lot of level 70-72s in Ultimate Qs lately, doing god-knows-what instead of running with the group.

[Crescens]

@猫又事業

One thing to remember about those Rising Weapons Badges 3s is that they convert into the Homura weapons, which are not terrible.

As an example, let's look at the wands:

Ray Wand +35
Melee: 1385
Technique: 1350

Homura no Tomoshibi +35
Melee: 1570
Technique: 1529

Gix Runan +35
Melee: 1572
Technique: 1518

Nemesis Cross +35
Melee: 1636
Technique: 1594

As you can see, it is close to the Nemesis weapons in power, and the ~55 of both melee and technique wouldn't make much of a difference damage wise. So the VHAQs are nice easy ways to get access to 12* units and 13* weapons to make transitioning to SHAQs and UQs easier.

[Niju]

I really don't know about the homura weapons. I mean yea, they're powerful - no doubt. But definetly not cost efficient in terms of upgrading. My lowlife Nox Weapon was easy to upgrade (due to easy obtainable upgrade food), had a nice bonus (each 10 Levels: Ranged/Melee Power increase when PP less than 50%) and has 1280 RNG Power at +35 even with bad augments.

I think I will switch directly to a top tier weapon like slave/nemesis once I accumulated enough meseta by either selling Drops or re-selling from market.

From what I've heard so far you should get the homura weapons anyways, since they're needed to get some top tier weapons at future updates. But since one can get arround 50 badges per solo run that shouldn't be a problem to at least get and store them.

[Jupiter Pulse]

Escrito originalmente por ε=ε=ε=ε= (￣▽￣):

Because the game had decade-old matching when it launched, and now it has two-decade-old matching.

A system that allows you to fully browse all active rooms is far more advanced than one that just throws you in a party randomly based on parameters that are more than not, not met.

[Moon Rabbit]

Escrito originalmente por Misfit:

guess thats one of the problems, people dont know about how a proper adv quest looks like.
its not about "a" pse burst, with 4 players you get a combos of crossbursts that last 10+ minutes.
and in maps like floating facility so many enemys spawn, you kill thousands of mobs within that bursts.
a pse burst you get while palying alone is something completely different

Man most people don't know that being in a party gives you a stacking tri-boost. People just ignore party beacons.

[Niju]

Escrito originalmente por Jupiter Pulse:

Escrito originalmente por ε=ε=ε=ε= (￣▽￣):

Because the game had decade-old matching when it launched, and now it has two-decade-old matching.

A system that allows you to fully browse all active rooms is far more advanced than one that just throws you in a party randomly based on parameters that are more than not, not met.

Try "Search for Parties in Other Blocks" instead of "Accept Quest".

[chill out]

Escrito originalmente por Jupiter Pulse:

Escrito originalmente por ε=ε=ε=ε= (￣▽￣):

Because the game had decade-old matching when it launched, and now it has two-decade-old matching.

A system that allows you to fully browse all active rooms is far more advanced than one that just throws you in a party randomly based on parameters that are more than not, not met.

It's... actually not?
One sorts and prioritizes and matches and rematches when the matching fails and deals with conflicts and ect ect, one just sorts and displays everything.
Not that PSO2 has either, since "search other blocks" isn't "search all blocks", and also tends to be out of date, and you can't match when the block is full even though lobbies and parties shouldn't be competing for player space?

PSO2 is a relic. Not saying having a party browser is bad, but PSO2's matching IS A RELIC. It's bad, it's old, and it was never ever good.

[mimizukari]

Ship 1 never has any problem with SHAQ queueing for any of them.

[Jupiter Pulse]

Escrito originalmente por 猫又事業:

Escrito originalmente por Jupiter Pulse:

That's literally what I just said, is that PSO2 system is better than the vast majority of party finder systems out there.....

Jesus you people are idiots.

I'm sorry for having missunderstood what you were saying as I am sorry for trying to be of any help. However, I don't think the problem at hand has or had anything to do with an unrefined search system / matchmaking. At least on ship 2 no one is running those quests as it seems - The reason for that would be interesting: Is it because of lack of information or simply no need for those?

That is because ship 2 is for ERPing and shouting racial profanities in the lobby. That's what ship 2 always was, it's why 4ch flocked to it.

[mimizukari]

Escrito originalmente por Jupiter Pulse:

Escrito originalmente por 猫又事業:

I'm sorry for having missunderstood what you were saying as I am sorry for trying to be of any help. However, I don't think the problem at hand has or had anything to do with an unrefined search system / matchmaking. At least on ship 2 no one is running those quests as it seems - The reason for that would be interesting: Is it because of lack of information or simply no need for those?

That is because ship 2 is for ERPing and shouting racial profanities in the lobby. That's what ship 2 always was, it's why 4ch flocked to it.

Pretty much this, Ship 2 is just for community. Ship 1 is the gameplay ship.

[Cdr. Toomuchsheep]

If you are on ship 4 I can tag you along for AQ if you want. I tend to to them solo to farm some stuff while listening to music. I usually don't take randoms as they _always_ keep running another direction while there are still monsters around. So as long as you do not do this, we may happily group up. <3

[Moon Rabbit]

Escrito originalmente por Kurumi Tokisaki:

Escrito originalmente por Jupiter Pulse:

That is because ship 2 is for ERPing and shouting racial profanities in the lobby. That's what ship 2 always was, it's why 4ch flocked to it.

Pretty much this, Ship 2 is just for community. Ship 1 is the gameplay ship.

Heh, no it's not. Plenty of people play the game on 2. 2 has almost all the people who shifted over from JP servers.

[Niju]

Escrito originalmente por Moon Rabbit:

Escrito originalmente por Kurumi Tokisaki:

Pretty much this, Ship 2 is just for community. Ship 1 is the gameplay ship.

Heh, no it's not. Plenty of people play the game on 2. 2 has almost all the people who shifted over from JP servers.

I don't know about that, but from what I've heard ship 2 has a big number of german players. Never cared much about ERP or chat toxicity levels, probably that's why I didn't notice anything of sorts for my 2 weeks on ship 2 until now.

[Varagonax]

Escrito originalmente por Misfit:

makes no sense solo, you do them for pse bursts, that only works proper in a full group.

Not true, if you have enough power you can absolutely murder enough to get the pse burst chain going. Of course, ranged weapons have it easier, but its possible.
Make sure your doing them on a multiblock party, and make sure your doing them at +50. You can squeak by with 3 people, but it shouldnt take more then 10 minutes. Read a book, watch youtube or something while you wait.

[Niju]

Escrito originalmente por Jupiter Pulse:

Escrito originalmente por Moon Rabbit:

Heh, no it's not. Plenty of people play the game on 2. 2 has almost all the people who shifted over from JP servers.

Yes, and the vast majority who played Ship 2 on JP were pedos from the /vg/ general.

If a pedo wanted to play the game just for the thrill of creating and ERPing with a childlike/toddler avatar, why would he play on a region where *min* height is locked and there's less costumes to play around with? Wouldn't said pedo-group rather stay on JP?

EDIT: Sorry I meant "min" height*